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Re: [dev-mdc] Why are there share buttons on the MDN docs?
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Sebastian Zartner
Dec 9, 2015, 1:57:12 AM12/9/15
to Danielle Vincent, Sphinx, dev-mdn, mozilla...@lists.mozilla.org, gardne...@gmail.com, John Karahalis
I just realized we already have some numbers on their usage. See
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.mdn/gpENRj8QJXg/discussion.
Therefore I'm cross-posting now.
John, regarding the stats it looks like you didn't try to place them within
the contributors bar or besides the page action buttons yet. (See my
previous mail.) I believe it's worth to investigate that.
Generally speaking, the conversion rate of 0.20% indicates that the feature
is not used often enough to give them a prominent place.
Sebastian
On 9 December 2015 at 07:37, Sebastian Zartner <sebastia...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> For me it's fine to have those buttons (even if I've never shared
> anything via such buttons, I think). Though they take vertical space.
> And at the Hack On MDN weekend in Berlin earlier this year we agreed
> that vertical space is very valuable and should be used to show as
> much as possible of the article itself.
> Therefore I suggest ot move the share buttons into the contributors
> bar at the far right. Doing so places them nearer to all the other
> page actions like EDIT, Watch, etc. Another place would be right
> besides those page action buttons, e.g. under a button SHARE, which
> would then open the different options to share the page.
>
> Having said that, any numbers on their usage would be interesting.
>
> Sebastian
>
> On 8 December 2015 at 21:49, Danielle Vincent <dvin...@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Do we have any stats on how often those are used? Or can we do a test on
>> how our share stats are with and without the buttons?
>>
>> I think even if people usually copy and paste the URL, it sometimes is
>> nice
>> to have a reminder that people should/could share the doc.
>>
>> My $0.02,
>> Danielle
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Sphinx <sphinx...@hotmail.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello everyone,John (?)
>> >
>> > Thanks for your opinion. Since I received some feedback on the French
>> > speaking channel, I'll share mine:
>> >
>> > - The current position of the "Share" buttons is too prominent. The
>> > vertical space above the content of a page has always been (for me) too
>> > high and these buttons don't help. It even appears above contributors
>> bar.
>> > I don't want to sound too egocentric here but the message (even
>> implicit)
>> > doesn't look great
>> >
>> > - I have nothing against such share buttons, as long as they're discreet
>> > and respect the privacy of users (some sites use a switch which is great
>> > e.g. http://framablog.org/2015/11/13/firefox-vide-ses-poches/ )
>> >
>> > - The current color of the Google + button is a "violent" red which
>> > appears nowhere else in the page.
>> >
>> > Again, I have nothing against share buttons and I think they were great
>> > under the ToC. Here they just look wrong to me.
>> >
>> > Respectfully,
>> > Julien / Sphinx
>> >
>> >
>> > Le 03/12/2015 16:25, gardne...@gmail.com a écrit :
>> >
>> >> Legitimate question, because I'm unable to fathom why any developer
>> would
>> >> need handholding when it comes to sharing a link on a social network.
>> >>
>> >> It adds clutter to the page, cheapens the appearance of the site, and
>> >> adds nothing of value.
>> >>
>> >> In short, share-links are the pollution of the Internet.
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> dev-mdc mailing list
>> >> dev...@lists.mozilla.org
>> >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-mdc
>> >> MDN contributor guide: http://bit.ly/ContributorGuide
>> >> Doc project Trello board: https://trello.com/b/HAhl54zz/status
>> >>
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > dev-mdc mailing list
>> > dev...@lists.mozilla.org
>> > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-mdc
>> > MDN contributor guide: http://bit.ly/ContributorGuide
>> > Doc project Trello board: https://trello.com/b/HAhl54zz/status
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.mdn/gpENRj8QJXg/discussion.
Therefore I'm cross-posting now.
John, regarding the stats it looks like you didn't try to place them within
the contributors bar or besides the page action buttons yet. (See my
previous mail.) I believe it's worth to investigate that.
Generally speaking, the conversion rate of 0.20% indicates that the feature
is not used often enough to give them a prominent place.
Sebastian
On 9 December 2015 at 07:37, Sebastian Zartner <sebastia...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> For me it's fine to have those buttons (even if I've never shared
> anything via such buttons, I think). Though they take vertical space.
> And at the Hack On MDN weekend in Berlin earlier this year we agreed
> that vertical space is very valuable and should be used to show as
> much as possible of the article itself.
> Therefore I suggest ot move the share buttons into the contributors
> bar at the far right. Doing so places them nearer to all the other
> page actions like EDIT, Watch, etc. Another place would be right
> besides those page action buttons, e.g. under a button SHARE, which
> would then open the different options to share the page.
>
> Having said that, any numbers on their usage would be interesting.
>
> Sebastian
>
> On 8 December 2015 at 21:49, Danielle Vincent <dvin...@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Do we have any stats on how often those are used? Or can we do a test on
>> how our share stats are with and without the buttons?
>>
>> I think even if people usually copy and paste the URL, it sometimes is
>> nice
>> to have a reminder that people should/could share the doc.
>>
>> My $0.02,
>> Danielle
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Sphinx <sphinx...@hotmail.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello everyone,John (?)
>> >
>> > Thanks for your opinion. Since I received some feedback on the French
>> > speaking channel, I'll share mine:
>> >
>> > - The current position of the "Share" buttons is too prominent. The
>> > vertical space above the content of a page has always been (for me) too
>> > high and these buttons don't help. It even appears above contributors
>> bar.
>> > I don't want to sound too egocentric here but the message (even
>> implicit)
>> > doesn't look great
>> >
>> > - I have nothing against such share buttons, as long as they're discreet
>> > and respect the privacy of users (some sites use a switch which is great
>> > e.g. http://framablog.org/2015/11/13/firefox-vide-ses-poches/ )
>> >
>> > - The current color of the Google + button is a "violent" red which
>> > appears nowhere else in the page.
>> >
>> > Again, I have nothing against share buttons and I think they were great
>> > under the ToC. Here they just look wrong to me.
>> >
>> > Respectfully,
>> > Julien / Sphinx
>> >
>> >
>> > Le 03/12/2015 16:25, gardne...@gmail.com a écrit :
>> >
>> >> Legitimate question, because I'm unable to fathom why any developer
>> would
>> >> need handholding when it comes to sharing a link on a social network.
>> >>
>> >> It adds clutter to the page, cheapens the appearance of the site, and
>> >> adds nothing of value.
>> >>
>> >> In short, share-links are the pollution of the Internet.
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> dev-mdc mailing list
>> >> dev...@lists.mozilla.org
>> >> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-mdc
>> >> MDN contributor guide: http://bit.ly/ContributorGuide
>> >> Doc project Trello board: https://trello.com/b/HAhl54zz/status
>> >>
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > dev-mdc mailing list
>> > dev...@lists.mozilla.org
>> > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-mdc
>> > MDN contributor guide: http://bit.ly/ContributorGuide
>> > Doc project Trello board: https://trello.com/b/HAhl54zz/status
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ******************************
>> Follow MDN on Twitter @MozDevNet <http://www.twitter.com/MozDevNet>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dev-mdc mailing list
>> dev...@lists.mozilla.org
>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-mdc
>> MDN contributor guide: http://bit.ly/ContributorGuide
>> Doc project Trello board: https://trello.com/b/HAhl54zz/status
>>
>
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