Re: [Feedback Requested] MDN discussions migrating to Discourse

[Janet Swisher]

We're now two weeks into using Discourse, while still keeping the old
mailing lists available.


How's it going?

If you're using Discourse, how do you like it?

What bugs, issues, or papercuts have you run into?

If you're still using the mailing lists, what's keeping you from using
Discourse?

In the migration timeline I initially proposed[1], I suggested we could
start the shutdown of the mailing lists this week, or wait until after
the All-Hands and various holidays (week of July 10). Since we're still
working on replacing references to the mailing lists in various places,
I'm inclined to wait for the later date. Is that overly cautious?

Any other thoughts about this migration?



Thanks,

Janet


[1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.mdn/-eJLIXQsXt8


On 6/5/17 16:03, Janet Swisher wrote:
>
> =Summary=
>
> We're moving to Discourse!
>
> Please start using the "MDN" category:
> https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/c/mdn
>
> You can also start a discussion by sending an email message to:
> m...@mozilla-community.org
>
> =Details=
>
> The public discussions related to MDN that currently take place
> mailing lists/google groups/newsgroups are now migrating to Mozilla's
> web-based Discourse instance, in the "MDN" category. You are
> encouraged to use the web interface for these discussions, though it
> is possible to interact with Discourse (almost) entirely by email if
> you prefer.
>
> ==How do I use Discourse?==
>
> Refer to the following pages for helpful instructions:
>
> * Signing up and logging in
> <https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/signing-up-and-logging-in/16017>;
> if you have a Mozilla LDAP account, you can use that instead of
> "Login with email".
> * Subscribing to categories and topics
> <https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/subscribing-to-categories-and-topics/16024>;
> you should subscribe to the "MDN" category; anything else is your
> preference.
> * (optional) Set up a mailing list experience for yourself
> <https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/mailman-mode/15279>;
> for filtering purposes, notifications for the MDN category have
> "[MDN]" in the Subject line, and "disc...@mozilla-community.org"
> in the From line.
>
> If you use Discourse via email, you can reply to a message by replying
> to the notification email that you receive. If you want to intersperse
> comments inline within a reply, please put two carriage-returns before
> and after your inline chunks, so that Discourse parses them correctly.
>
> ==What's happening to the mailing lists?==
>
> The current mailing lists will continue to work during the transition
> period. It's reasonable to continue existing threads via the mailings
> lists. However, I encourage you to start new discussions using
> Discourse instead.
>
> We will evaluate when to permanently shut down the mailing lists based
> on the issues with Discourse, if any, that arise during the transition.
>
> ==What if I have a problem with Discourse?==
>
> If you have questions about using discourse, check the Help category:
> https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/c/meta/help
>
> If your question isn't already answered there, you can post it in that
> category.
>
> If you have a problem that you're confident is a bug, or if you're
> unable to access the Help category, you can file a Github issue with
> Mozilla Participation Systems: https://github.com/mozilla/parsys/issues
>
>

--

Janet Swisher <mailto:jREMOVE...@mozilla.com>
Mozilla Developer Network <https://developer.mozilla.org>
Community Strategist

[Felix Miata]

Janet Swisher composed on 2017-06-19 17:56 (UTC-0400):

> We're now two weeks into using Discourse, while still keeping the old
> mailing lists available.

.
> How's it going?
.

> If you're using Discourse, how do you like it?

.

> What bugs, issues, or papercuts have you run into?

.

> If you're still using the mailing lists, what's keeping you from using

> Discourse? .
The usual reasons for preferring email to the web:

http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/discourseMozillaOrg201706-1600x144.jpg

Among other reasons, email is optimally configured by default, not overridden by
web site stylists who design for appearance (good in the eagle eyes of the
stylist) rather than utility (legible, readable, respecting user settings).

https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-06/msg00532.html
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-06/msg00547.html
http://www.w3.org/2003/07/30-font-size
http://terrillthompson.com/blog/589
https://backchannel.com/how-the-web-became-unreadable-a781ddc711b6
https://jebswebs.net/blog/2013/07/whats-with-all-the-gray/
http://contrastrebellion.com/
https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/why-are-so-many-sites-using-gray-text/4667
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

[Janet Swisher]

Hi Felix,

Thanks for your feedback. I'm disappointed that you didn't raise these
points in the earlier threads about whether and how to consolidate the
MDN mailing lists, and about the priority of email-related features in
Discourse, when they could have had an impact in the process of the
decision to move to Discourse.

It is possible to interact with Discourse primarily through email, after
initial setup of your account. As mentioned previously, you can set up a
mailing list experience for yourself on Discourse.[1]

I hope these issues won't discourage you from contributing to MDN.

--Janet



[1] https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/mailman-mode/15279

On 6/19/17 21:23, Felix Miata wrote:
> Janet Swisher composed on 2017-06-19 17:56 (UTC-0400):
>

> .
>> If you're still using the mailing lists, what's keeping you from using
>> Discourse? .
> The usual reasons for preferring email to the web:
>
> http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/discourseMozillaOrg201706-1600x144.jpg
>
> Among other reasons, email is optimally configured by default, not overridden by
> web site stylists who design for appearance (good in the eagle eyes of the
> stylist) rather than utility (legible, readable, respecting user settings).
>
> https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-06/msg00532.html
> https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-06/msg00547.html
> http://www.w3.org/2003/07/30-font-size
> http://terrillthompson.com/blog/589
> https://backchannel.com/how-the-web-became-unreadable-a781ddc711b6
> https://jebswebs.net/blog/2013/07/whats-with-all-the-gray/
> http://contrastrebellion.com/
> https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/why-are-so-many-sites-using-gray-text/4667

--

[Felix Miata]

Janet Swisher composed on 2017-06-21 12:22 (UTC-0400):

.
> It is possible to interact with Discourse primarily through email, after
> initial setup of your account. As mentioned previously, you can set up a
> mailing list experience for yourself on Discourse.[1]

.

> I hope these issues won't discourage you from contributing to MDN.

.
> [1] https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/mailman-mode/15279
Apparently they are destined to. Besides the gray mousetype impediment, it does
not let me get connected or suggest what to do about it:

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