Font Discussion Along With Android Problems

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Arky Arky.Looking for suitable Burmese fonts to include in Android 4.1
(CM10) nightlies. Any suggestions?

Heard about Padauk, Tharlon fonts. Did anyone test these on android devices.
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> Most complex script
fonts even Latin script that includes combining diacritics will not render
correctly on older versions of android. I suspect that the same holds true
for android 4.1. Depends on what rendering system they are using. On older
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> Although, they will
work with Firefox on Android devices.
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http://andrewc.Vicnet.net.au/test/padauk.html<http://andrewc.vicnet.net.au/test/padauk.html>
*Padauk Graphite features <http://andrewc.vicnet.net.au/test/padauk.html>
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The following four samples illustrate different aspects of CSS support
for Graphite features available in the Padauk font.
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Arky Arky Arky <https://www.facebook.com/arkyarkyarky> Interesting. Am
tried of seeing Burmese text as tofu, might jump in and fix it
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> Not sure its an easy
fix. If they are using harfbuzz-ng, it might be. But if it is harfbuzz, it
will require a fair bit of work.

I have seen a blog post on building harfbuzz-ng into android source
code. I'll try to relocate it
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Arky Arky Arky <https://www.facebook.com/arkyarkyarky> Alright my
nightlies are build from this source http://cgit.freedesktop.org/harfbuzz

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*harfbuzz - HarfBuzz text shaping library (new rewritten
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that's good. Do you know which build of hb-ng is being used?
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> If latest you should
have all you need for graphite and opentype support for murmur it script
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> No support yet for
myr2 it script that Microsoft introduced for Myanmar support
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> If memory serves me
correctly
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Arky Arky Arky <https://www.facebook.com/arkyarkyarky> Harfbuzz version
is 0.9.10, which is good. The Padauk font size is 264K which is large
compared to other fonts that are shipped with Android.
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> It has both graphite
and ot tables, and multiple glyphs per character to support multiple
languages with typographic differences
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> But then, many
android fonts have limited repetoires and support limited number of
languages
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> Is it worth
discussing with martin hoskens and see if it is possible to build a smaller
version?
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> What size is Tharlon?
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> Ok latest version og
hb-ng then
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> so that should be
good for most cases except for current outstanding bugs
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ttf
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http://code.google.com/p/tharlon-font/
*tharlon-font - TharLon ::: Open Source Myanmar Font for Multi Operating
System - Google
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TharLon is an authentic Myanmar typeface which covers several languages,
such as...See More
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> Thanks Tin Aung Lin
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*Downloads - tharlon-font - TharLon ::: Open Source Myanmar Font for
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Arky Arky Arky <https://www.facebook.com/arkyarkyarky> Thanks Tin Aung
Linn <https://www.facebook.com/tinaunglinn91>, I will look at Tharlon as
well
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Zaw Myo Htet <https://www.facebook.com/zmyohtet1> What about
Masterpiece?I am using this font in my Nexus 7 with android 4.2.1. But
there are some problem in ြ and ့ .
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caused by the problems pointed out by Andrew
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Masterpiece and see if harfbuz itself works with it
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Andrew Cunningham <https://www.facebook.com/andjc> download and compile
harfbuzz-ng and use the utility hb-view to create an image of a string of
text as harfbuzz would render it
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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31115252/fonts_share/Ayar2011S.ttf here is ayar
font (new version) compatible with other myanmar unicode fonts. If this
font work, we can remove all latin glymps to reduce font file size.
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Thwin<https://www.facebook.com/sithu.thwin82> .
Does Ayar completely follow unicode stardard now?I asked you as I don't
know completely?Plz,don't think anything special.If it is as I think,it
will be really great news.
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Sithu Thwin <https://www.facebook.com/sithu.thwin82> Yes, you can test
above font.
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Sithu Thwin <https://www.facebook.com/sithu.thwin82> But it is not
officially released.
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sequences (including wrong diacritic order) in this font. We can't accept
Ayar Font for Mozilla. Who will fix it?
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complete the coverage of the font is for ethnic languages are supported,
which language systems does the font support, does it contain the
typographic traditions and variations between different languages?
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Mozilla project does not ship any fonts with its software (excluding
firefoxOS). We only recommend Unicode complient fonts to be present on
users device.
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[arky]

Hi,

Thank you Zinmin for posting.

Availability of proper Burmese support is basic requirement that is
lacking on Android right now. I have posted a patch for CyanogenMod
source tree, it is being reviewed right now.

Also let me revive another thread on this list about the font
documentation as well.

Cheers

--arky