builtins

[Nathan Smith]

hello folks!
I was just wondering if someone would be so kind as to give me a link to how to register new builtins.
I'd like to create, and or patch, a builtin into my server that allows me to list all of the builtins available in a server.
Any help would be appreciated in this matter.

[Todd Sundsted]

if you mean built-in functions, you can call "function_info()".

[Nathan Smith]

that's exactly what I was looking for!
thanks!
out of interest, is there a tutorial for patching patches by hand?
I'm using gamma, and so a lot of lambda patches fail to patch and I'd sort of like them.
I actually considered stunt, but my database won't load on it for a number of reasons.
a pain, really.

[Michael Munson]

What does GammaMOO add that LambdaMOO doesn't? I dont notice any extra data types. 

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[Chris Norman]

On 10/09/2017 10:42, Michael Munson wrote:

What does GammaMOO add that LambdaMOO doesn't? I dont notice any extra data types.

It's mainly the ability to use assignments like variable++ and variable-- I believe... I'm sure there was some other syntactic sugar but I can't remember what it was.

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[Nathan Smith]

themain thing for me in gamma is the ++n, thing. I've not found , or been able to patch, that into any other server. But the version of gamma I use comes ready equipped also with martians extentions, goblins stuff, file i/o, ETC. Even if I could fully patch a lambdamoo server with all the stuff I wanted, highly unlikely as apart from patch < the_patch.patch, I have no idea how to go about it, I doubt the database would convert back over.

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 10:42:17 AM UTC+1, Michael Munson wrote:

What does GammaMOO add that LambdaMOO doesn't? I dont notice any extra data types. 

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Nathan Smith <lordva...@gmail.com> wrote:

that's exactly what I was looking for!
thanks!
out of interest, is there a tutorial for patching patches by hand?
I'm using gamma, and so a lot of lambda patches fail to patch and I'd sort of like them.
I actually considered stunt, but my database won't load on it for a number of reasons.
a pain, really.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 10:05:20 PM UTC+1, Todd Sundsted wrote:

if you mean built-in functions, you can call "function_info()".

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 2:16:28 PM UTC-4, Nathan Smith wrote:

hello folks!
I was just wondering if someone would be so kind as to give me a link to how to register new builtins.
I'd like to create, and or patch, a builtin into my server that allows me to list all of the builtins available in a server.
Any help would be appreciated in this matter.

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[Michael Munson]

In that case, if you replace every n++ in the db with n = n +1 (can use sed: sed -i -E 's/([^\+\s])+\+\+;/\1 = \1 + 1;/g' moo.db) and then restart the MOO and dump it (to make sure there are no suspended tasks that use n++) then change the DB number to that of LambdaMOO stunt should convert it properly.

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[Brendan B]

It also incorporates some patches, like an updated FILE I/O patch. There are other improvements that aren't just syntatic sugar.

https://github.com/luke-jr/gammamoo/blob/gammamoo/ChangeLog.txt <-- scroll down to bottom

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 10:18:59 AM UTC-4, Chris Norman wrote:

On 10/09/2017 10:42, Michael Munson wrote:

What does GammaMOO add that LambdaMOO doesn't? I dont notice any extra data types.

It's mainly the ability to use assignments like variable++ and variable-- I believe... I'm sure there was some other syntactic sugar but I can't remember what it was.

Cheers,

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Nathan Smith <lordva...@gmail.com> wrote:

that's exactly what I was looking for!
thanks!
out of interest, is there a tutorial for patching patches by hand?
I'm using gamma, and so a lot of lambda patches fail to patch and I'd sort of like them.
I actually considered stunt, but my database won't load on it for a number of reasons.
a pain, really.

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 10:05:20 PM UTC+1, Todd Sundsted wrote:

if you mean built-in functions, you can call "function_info()".

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 2:16:28 PM UTC-4, Nathan Smith wrote:

hello folks!
I was just wondering if someone would be so kind as to give me a link to how to register new builtins.
I'd like to create, and or patch, a builtin into my server that allows me to list all of the builtins available in a server.
Any help would be appreciated in this matter.

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[Luke Dashjr]

On Monday 04 September 2017 1:48:02 PM Nathan Smith wrote:
> I was just wondering if someone would be so kind as to give me a link to
> how to register new builtins.

The simplest way to add new "builtins" to GammaMOO is to define and implement
#0:bf__NEW_BUILTIN_NAME (note the double underscore after "bf").

On Wednesday 06 September 2017 7:58:37 PM Nathan Smith wrote:
> out of interest, is there a tutorial for patching patches by hand?
> I'm using gamma, and so a lot of lambda patches fail to patch and I'd sort
> of like them.

Typically: patch -p1 --merge=diff3 <PATCHFILE

Then look for "<<<<<<<" in the files and resolve the conflicts. You'll need to
know C for that...

Feel free to open a pull request on GitHub with your changes to get it
reviewed and/or merged into mainline GammaMOO:
https://github.com/luke-jr/gammamoo/pulls

On Sunday 10 September 2017 9:42:16 AM Michael Munson wrote:
> What does GammaMOO add that LambdaMOO doesn't? I dont notice any extra data
> types.

Most notable:

- Ability to define "builtins" in the MOO itself.
- Internal "network" connections (simulate an incoming connection within the
MOO).
- Binary handling and other webserver-helpful improvements. For example, I
have a webserver MOO object that uses this along with the internal network
connections to provide a web interface to the MOO.
- MOO code language improvements (+=, ++, bit operators).
- File I/O with a special append-only mode for logs (ie, so wizards can't
modify them).
- Access to the entire library of libgcrypt hash algorithms instead of just
the broken MD5.

[Brendan B]

If you know other programming languages that are similar in syntax to C, you may be able to muddle through a patch. That's how I managed.