Anyway, I finally got my null modem cable, and plugged in in between a  
machine running 8.0-BETA2 and one running WinXP using Hyperterminal.
My settings:
/boot/loader.conf:
boot_multicons="YES"
boot_serial="YES"
comconsole_speed="115200"
console="comconsole,vidconsole"
/etc/ttys:
# Serial terminals
# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyu0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100   on secure
/boot.config (which is read properly):
-Dh -S115200
Anything wrong in the above?
Hyperterminal is set to 115200 bps, 8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit, and  
no flow control (if that's the correct translation to English).
On the serial console, I go from the screen with the FreeBSD logo,  
with single-user options etc. (which works fine), and then nothing,  
until a login tty pops up (which also works fine). The main, if not  
only, reason I want a serial console is to be able to use it for  
single user mode, DDB, and so on.
All kernel messages, and all rc messages are seen only on the graphics  
card; the serial console receives nothing but the "/boot.config: - 
Dh ...", the logo screen, and then the login screen, during startup  
and *nothing* at all during shutdown. Also, I'm able to login and use  
the system both via the serial console and via the graphics card/ 
keyboard... Is this supposed to be? I'm not complaining, I just got  
the impression it was one or the other.
Any advice on how to get the kernel/rc messages etc. to the serial  
console (only or as well)?
Regards,
Thomas
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Do you use the VGA/vidconsole at all?
A serial-only device (think soekris, ALIX/WRAP boards) that has no VGA
will have different requirements than a serial-only device will.
Your loader.conf statements are different than mine in the definition
that you have more than I do to enable serial.
My loader.conf just has one statement:
  console="comconsole"  - to feed ALL bootloaders, kernel probing, rc
startup on the serial device.  /etc/ttys defines the login lines.
Though trial and error, I found when you use a dual-setup:
"comconsole,vidconsole", the first one (comconsole) will get rc
output, and vidconsole won't.
Of course, you're on 8.0 and I don't run BETAs.  So the 8.0 BETA might
still be having com port oddities, plus I noticed your ttys line is
ttyu0, not ttyd0.  Did 8.0 change the serial line device?
To enable a serial-only device in my setups:
/boot/loader.conf:
  console="comconsole"
/boot.config:
  -D
/etc/ttys:
# enable serial line, cons25 or vt100, depending if I'm originating
from a bsd or windows box.
Enabling dual-setups should be just the loader.conf change to dual console.
HTH
(Sorry for the lack of inline replies.)
I do have a graphics card, and ideally I'd like to be able to use  
both, but serial has higher priority (with serial access, I can use  
minicom on another *nix box and essentially ssh into DDB, and stuff  
like that - right now I have to borrow a monitor, and write info down  
manually if needed, turning my head back and forth).
I've tried lots of combinations of console=, including simply  
'console="comconsole"' and/or combinations of that and -D, -h- -Dh and  
-P in /boot.config.
The extra lines in loader.conf are from the handbook, which says  
they're needed to use comconsole_speed. It seems they do the same  
thing as -D and -h, though.
Oh, and re: /etc/ttys: Yup, it's ttyuX when using uart(4) which seems  
to be the default now. Actually, since my last buildworld half an hour  
ago I'm on 9.0-CURRENT. ;)
Also, I made sure to set flags to 0x10 for the serial port as per the  
handbook (although I did it using loader.conf, not the kernel config);  
before the change, dmesg didn't mention any flags, but it now does.  
Didn't help squat, though.
"Though trial and error, I found when you use a dual-setup:
"comconsole,vidconsole", the first one (comconsole) will get rc
output, and vidconsole won't."
This doesn't mirror my experience; comconsole and  
comconsole,vidconsole appears to be just the same for me. I've never  
gotten anything except the boot loader and a login prompt over to the  
serial line - at least not at speed/settings that the client is set up  
to receive.
I'm gonna try 9600 bps soon just to be sure it isn't that, but seeing  
how many others have mentioned using "-S115200" I doubt it'll help.
Thanks/regards,
Thomas
On a linux box I had, I would get serial output from Grub, lose it
during kernel load and then get a login once the OS was up, much like
what you describe.  I had to add a kernel argument to my Grub config
so the kernel would output to the serial port.
Did you look here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/console-server/freebsd.html
I think 7.2 might be what you are missing but I can't check it myself.
Yes, I tried without the keyboard (with -P in boot.config), but  
apparently it detects the keyboard no matter what (it prints out  
"Keyboard: yes" even though I yanked the power, then the keyboard, and  
then started it up again).
The article appears to be (even according to itself ;) a shortened  
version of the handbook ( http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html 
  ), which doesn't work out for me, I'm afraid.
I'm Cc:ing this to the -CURRENT list in case it's something related to  
new changes.
BTW, 9600 bps didn't help. Same thing, only slower.
Regards,
> boot.config: -Dh ...", the logo screen, and then the login screen,  
> during startup and *nothing* at all during shutdown. Also, I'm able  
> to login and use the system both via the serial console and via the  
> graphics card/keyboard... Is this supposed to be? I'm not  
> complaining, I just got the impression it was one or the other.
>
> Any advice on how to get the kernel/rc messages etc. to the serial  
> console (only or as well)?
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
OK, so to rule out any installation-related problems, I booted from a  
bootonly install CD (a May ~5th snapshot of 8.0-CURRENT), with "boot - 
h -S115200". Same thing: bootloader stuff on the serial console,  
kernel messages on the local computer only - and very slowly, at that,  
I'd say about one line a second. You could very easily see the  
characters being written to the screen.
Am I the only one having these problems? It'd suck to buy a rather  
expensive (probably because they're pretty rare these days, plus I had  
to order from abroad) null modem cable and have it be completely  
useless.
> you need to set
> 	hint.uart.0.flags="0x10"
>
> danny
I already tried that (in /boot/loader.conf); it shows up in dmesg (and  
didn't before), but still no luck.
Regards/thanks,
Try adding it to  /boot/device.hints
eg
hint.uart.0.at="isa"
hint.uart.0.port="0x3F8"
hint.uart.0.flags="0x10"
hint.uart.0.irq="4"
hint.uart.1.at="isa"
hint.uart.1.port="0x2F8"
Or, if you want to use loader.conf, try
hw.uart.console="io:0x3f8"
---Mike
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>Thomas
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