More on ClearPlay
RonB
right for ClearPlay to continue selling their service -- which is what
it is, not copyright infringement -- I'm overwhelmed with the stupidity
of the concept.
Okay, we've got family "A" who won't watch a movie with swearing,
sexual innuendo or violence. So... why in the hell would they rent
"Con-Air," or "Coyote Ugly," or "Charly's Angels" (1 & 2), or "Lethal
Weapon," or...? And then some of the other movies they filter... "Dr.
Dolittle?" WTF? "Shrek?" "Snowdogs?" "Signs?" "Kangaroo Jack?" "Angels
in the Outfield?" "Angels in the FREAKIN' Outfield?" "Finding
Forrester?" GOOD GRIEF!
Sorry I even defended these idiots. This is just TOO damn stupid.
I hadn't heard of these people before tonight. I don't see them as a
any threat to Hollywood, but good grief, why would you edit down
"Finding Forrester?" Definitely would ruin the movie.
And, now, I suddenly get Neal's and Bill's point.
Was I naive, or what?
--
RonB
"Uh... never mind."
RonB
> Okay, we've got family "A" who won't watch a movie with swearing,
> sexual innuendo or violence. So... why in the hell would they rent
> "Con-Air," or "Coyote Ugly," or "Charly's Angels" (1 & 2), or "Lethal
> Weapon," or...? And then some of the other movies they filter... "Dr.
> Dolittle?" WTF? "Shrek?" "Snowdogs?" "Signs?" "Kangaroo Jack?"
> "Angels in the Outfield?" "Angels in the FREAKIN' Outfield?" "Finding
> Forrester?" GOOD GRIEF!
Here's a list ClearPlay's movies. While a few could have a couple
scenes snipped without really harming the movie, most either fall into
two categories -- either "Why Bother?" because if you filter all the
objectionable stuff, the movie is gone anyhow -- or, "WTF?" -- kid's or
family movies that don't *need* anything filtered out for family
viewing. How anal are these guys anyhow?
"While You Were Sleeping" made the list too. Real anal folks.
---
1941
2 Fast 2 Furious
28 Days
28 Days Later
50FirstDates
6th Day, The
A Man Apart
About a Boy
About Schmidt
Adaptation
Adventures of Pluto Nash, The
Against the Ropes
Agent Cody Banks
Agent Cody Banks 2
Air America
Air Force One
Airplane
Alex & Emma
Ali
All the Pretty Horses
Almost Famous
Along Came Polly
America's Sweethearts
American Beauty
American Graffiti
American Outlaws
American Splendor
Amistad
Analyze That
Analyze This
Angels in the Outfield
Anger Management
Anna and the King
Annie Hall
AntiTrust
Antwone Fisher
Apollo 13
Apostle, The
Arlington Road
Armageddon
Artificial Intelligence: A.I.
As Good As It Gets
Austin Powers
Austin Powers in Goldmember
Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
Bachelor, The
Back to the Future Trilogy
Bandits
Barbershop
Barbershop 2
Batman
Beach, The
Beautiful Mind, A
Bedazzled
Behind Enemy Lines
Bend It Like Beckham
Benny & Joon
Best in Show
Better Off Dead
Beverly Hills Cop
Beverly Hills Cop II
Bicentennial Man
Big
Big Bounce, The
Big Daddy
Big Fish
Big Green, The
Big Momma's House
Big Trouble
Big Trouble in Little China
Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
Billy Elliot
Billy Madison
Black Hawk Down
Black Knight
Black Sheep
Blade Runnner
Blast from the Past
Blazing Saddles
Blue Crush
Blue Streak
Bodyguard, The
Bottle Rocket
Bounce
Bourne Identity, The
Bowfinger
Brady Bunch Movie, The
Braveheart
Breakfast Club, The
Bridget Jones's Diary
Brigham City
Bring It On
Bring it On Again
Bringing Down the House
Brotherhood of the Wolf
Brown Sugar
Bruce Almighty
Bull Durham
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Butterfly Effect, The
Caddyshack
Calendar Girls
Can't Hardly Wait
Captain Corelli's Mandolin
Cast Away
Cat in the Hat, The
Catch Me If You Can
Catch That Kid
Cats & Dogs
Changing Lanes
Charade
Charlie's Angels
Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle
Chasing Liberty
Chasing Papi
Cheaper by the Dozen
Chinatown
Chocolat
Christmas Story, A
Christmas Vacation
City Slickers
Clear and Present Danger
Client, The
Cliffhanger
Clockstoppers
Clueless
Cocoon
Cocoon: The Return
Cold Creek Manor
Cold Mountain
Color of Money, The
Coming to America
Company, The
Con Air
Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen
Conspiracy Theory
Core, The
Count of Monte Cristo, The
Courage Under Fire
Coyote Ugly
Crimson Tide
Crocodile Dundee
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
Daddy Day Care
Dances with Wolves
Dante's Peak
Daredevil
Dark Crystal, The
Das Boot
Dave
Days of Thunder
Deep Impact
Diamonds Are Forever
Dick Tracy
Dickie Roberts
Die Another Day
Die Hard
Die Hard 2
Die Hard: With a Vengeance
Dirty Harry
Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood
Doc Hollywood
Domestic Disturbance
Don't Say a Word
Donnie Darko
Double Jeopardy
Down to Earth
Down With Love
Dr. Dolittle
Dr. Dolittle 2
Dragonfly
Dream a Little Dream
Dreamcatcher
Driving Miss Daisy
Drumline
Dumb and Dumber
Duplex
E.T.
Edward Scissorhands
Eight Crazy Nights
Eight Legged Freaks
Elephant
Emperor's Club, The
Empire Records
Encino Man
Enemy of the State
English Patient, The
Enigma
Erin Brockovich Classic
Evolution Classic
Face/Off Classic
Family Man, The Classic
Fast and the Furious, The Classic
Father of the Bride New Release
Father of the Bride Part II New Release
Ferris Bueller's Day Off Classic
Few Good Men, A Classic
Field of Dreams Classic
Fifth Element, The Classic
Fighting Temptations New Release
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within Classic
Finding Forrester Classic
Firm, The Classic
First Blood Classic
First Knight New Release
Fletch Classic
Fletch Lives New Release
For Love of the Game Classic
Forget Paris New Release
Forrest Gump Classic
Four Feathers, The Classic
Four Weddings and a Funeral Classic
Freaky Friday Classic
French Kiss Classic
Frequency Classic
Frida Classic
Fugitive, The Classic
Funny Farm New Release
Galaxy Quest Classic
Game, The Classic
George of the Jungle Classic
George of the Jungle 2 Classic
Ghost Classic
Ghostbusters Classic
Ghostbusters II New Release
Gift, The New Release
Girl with a Pearl Earring New Release
Girls just Want to have Fun Classic
Gladiator Classic
Glory Classic
Godfather part II, The New Release
Godfather part III, The New Release
Godfather. The New Release
Gods and Generals Classic
Gone in 60 Seconds Classic
Good Burger Classic
Good Morning, Vietnam Classic
Goonies, The Classic
Gosford Park Classic
Gothika New Release
Graduate, The Classic
Grease New Release
Great Expectations Classic
Green Mile, The Classic
Gross Pointe Blank New Release
Groundhog Day New Release
Haiku Tunnel Classic
Happy Gilmore Classic
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Classic
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone Classic
Haunted Mansion, The Classic
Head of State Classic
Heavyweights New Release
Heist Classic
High Crimes Classic
Holes Classic
Hollywood Homicide New Release
Home Alone 2: Lost in New York Classic
Honey New Release
Hook Classic
Hope Floats Classic
House of Sand and Fog New Release
How the Grinch Stole Christmas Classic
How to Deal New Release
How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days Classic
Hulk Classic
Human Stain, The New Release
Hunt for Red October, The Classic
Hunted, The Classic
Hurricane, The Classic
I Am Sam Classic
I Spy Classic
I.Q. New Release
Ideal Husband, An Classic
Identity New Release
In America New Release
In the Bedroom Classic
In-Laws, The Classic
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Classic
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Classic
Insider, The Classic
Insomnia Classic
Intolerable Cruelty Classic
Iron Giant, The Classic
Italian Job, The Classic
Jaws Classic
Jerk, The New Release
Jerry Maguire Classic
Jewel of the Nile, The Classic
Jingle All the Way Classic
Joe Somebody Classic
Joe Versus the Volcano Classic
John Q Classic
Johnny English Classic
Joy Ride Classic
Jumanji New Release
Jurassic Park Classic
Jurassic Park III Classic
Just Married Classic
Juwanna Mann Classic
K-19 Classic
K-PAX Classic
Kangaroo Jack Classic
Kate & Leopold Classic
Keeping the Faith Classic
Kiss of the Dragon New Release
Kiss the Girls New Release
Knights Tale, A Classic
Lake Placid Classic
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life Classic
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider Classic
Last Castle, The Classic
Last of the Dogmen Classic
Last of the Mohicans, The Classic
Last Samurai, The New Release
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, The Classic
League of Their Own, A New Release
Legally Blonde Classic
Legally Blonde 2: Red, White and Blonde Classic
Legend New Release
Legend of Bagger Vance, The Classic
Legends of the Fall New Release
Lethal Weapon Classic
Lethal Weapon 2 Classic
Liar Liar Classic
Life is Beautiful New Release
Life or Something Like it Classic
Like Father Like Son Classic
Lizzie McGuire Movie, The Classic
Looney Tunes: Back in Action Classic
Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The Classic
Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King New Release
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The Classic
Lost in Translation Classic
Lost Skeleton of Cadavra, The New Release
Lost World: Jurassic Park, The Classic
Love Actually New Release
Love Don't Cost a Thing New Release
Maid in Manhattan Classic
Majestic, The Classic
Man Who Knew too Little, The Classic
Manchurian Candidate, the New Release
Manhunter Classic
Mask of Zorro, The Classic
Master and Commander Classic
Matchstick Men Classic
Matrix Reloaded, The Classic
Matrix Revolutions, The Classic
Matrix, The Classic
Maverick Classic
Medallion, The Classic
Meet the Parents Classic
Memento Classic
Men in Black Classic
Men in Black II Classic
Men of Honor Classic
Mexican, The New Release
Michael Collins Classic
Mighty Ducks, The Classic
Minority Report Classic
Miracle New Release
Misery New Release
Miss Congeniality Classic
Missing, The Classic
Mission to Mars Classic
Mission: Impossible Classic
Mission: Impossible II Classic
Mona Lisa Smile Classic
Moonstruck Classic
Mortal Kombat New Release
Moulin Rouge Classic
Mr. Deeds Classic
Mr. Holland's Opus Classic
Mr. Mom New Release
Mrs. Doubtfire New Release
Much Ado About Nothing New Release
Multiplicity New Release
Mummy Returns, The Classic
Mummy, The Classic
Musketeer, The Classic
My Baby's Daddy New Release
My Best Friend's Wedding Classic
My Big Fat Greek Wedding Classic
Mystery Men Classic
Mystery, Alaska Classic
Mystic Pizza Classic
Mystic River New Release
Natural, The Classic
Never Been Kissed Classic
Never Say Never Again New Release
Nightmare Before Christmas, The New Release
Nine Months Classic
Notting Hill Classic
Nutty Professor Classic
O Brother, Where Art Thou? Classic
Ocean's Eleven Classic
October Sky Classic
Odyssey, The New Release
Office Space Classic
Officer and a Gentleman, An New Release
On Golden Pond New Release
Once Upon a Time in Mexico Classic
One Fine Day Classic
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest New Release
One Hour Photo Classic
One, The Classic
Open Range Classic
Orange County Classic
Others, The Classic
Out of Order New Release
Out of Time Classic
Panic Room Classic
Parent Trap, The Classic
Patch Adams Classic
Patriot Games Classic
Patriot, The Classic
Patton New Release
Pay It Forward Classic
Paycheck New Release
Peacemaker, The Classic
Pearl Harbor Classic
Pelican Brief, The Classic
People I Know New Release
Perfect Score, The New Release
Perfect Storm, The Classic
Peter Pan New Release
Philadelphia New Release
Pianist, The Classic
Pieces of April Classic
Pirates of the Caribbean Classic
Pitch Black New Release
Planes, Trains & Automobiles Classic
Planet of the Apes Classic
Player, The New Release
Police Academy New Release
Poltergeist Classic
Popeye New Release
Possession Classic
Practical Magic Classic
Predator New Release
Pretty Woman Classic
Princess Bride Classic
Proof of Life Classic
Pump Up The Volume New Release
Punch Drunk Love Classic
Rabbit Proof Fence New Release
Radio Classic
Raiders of the Lost Ark Classic
Rain Man Classic
Raising Arizona Classic
Rat Race Classic
Real Genius New Release
Reality Bites New Release
Recruit, The Classic
Red Dawn New Release
Red Violin, The Classic
Reign of Fire Classic
Remember the Titans Classic
Riding in Cars with Boys Classic
Ring, The Classic
Road to El Dorado, The Classic
Road to Perdition Classic
Rob Roy Classic
Robin Hood Prince of Thieves Classic
Robocop Trilogy New Release
Rocky Classic
Romancing the Stone Classic
Romeo + Juliet Classic
Royal Tenenbaums, The Classic
Rudy Classic
Runaway Bride Classic
Runaway Jury Classic
Rundown, The Classic
Rush Hour Classic
Rush Hour 2 Classic
Rushmore Classic
S.W.A.T. Classic
S1mOne Classic
Sabrina New Release
Say Anything Classic
Scent of a Woman New Release
School of Rock Classic
Scooby-Doo Classic
Scream New Release
Scrooged Classic
Seabiscuit Classic
Secondhand Lions Classic
Secret Window New Release
See Spot Run Classic
Serendipity Classic
Seven Years in Tibet New Release
Shakespeare in Love Classic
Shallow Hal Classic
Shanghai Knights Classic
Shanghai Noon Classic
Shattered Glass New Release
She's All That Classic
Showtime Classic
Shrek Classic
Signs Classic
Silverado Classic
Simon Birch Classic
Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas Classic
Six Days, Seven Nights New Release
Sleepless in Seattle Classic
Sliding Doors Classic
Snow Dogs Classic
Snow Falling on Cedars New Release
So I Married An Axe Murderer New Release
Solaris Classic
Soldier Classic
Someone Like You Classic
Something's Gotta Give Classic
Space Cowboys Classic
Spaceballs Classic
Spartan New Release
Speed Classic
Spider-Man Classic
Spies Like Us Classic
Spirted Away New Release
Splash New Release
Spy Game Classic
Spy Kids Classic
Stand By Me New Release
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn New Release
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock New Release
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home New Release
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country New Release
Star Trek: Nemesis Classic
Star Trek: The Motion Picture New Release
Stargate New Release
Starsky and Hutch New Release
Station Agent, The New Release
Steel Magnolias Classic
Stepford Wives, The New Release
Stepmom Classic
Stripes Classic
Stuart Little 2 Classic
Stuck on You New Release
Superman Classic
Superman III Classic
Sweet Home Alabama Classic
Swimfan Classic
Swordfish Classic
Sylvia New Release
Teacher's Pet New Release
Tears of the Sun Classic
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Classic
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines Classic
Terminator, The Classic
That Thing You Do Classic
The Quiet American New Release
The Sandlot New Release
The Score Classic
The Scorpion King Classic
The Shawshank Redemption Classic
The Siege Classic
The Sixth Sense Classic
The Skulls Classic
The Statement New Release
The Story of Us Classic
The Sum of All Fears Classic
Third Wheel, The New Release
Thirteen Days Classic
Thomas Crown Affair, The Classic
Three Amigos Classic
Three Men and a Baby Classic
Three O'Clock High Classic
Time Machine, The Classic
Timeline Classic
Titanic Classic
To End All Wars New Release
Tombstone Classic
Tommy Boy Classic
Tootsie Classic
Top Gun Classic
Torque New Release
Trading Places Classic
Traffic Classic
Transporter, The Classic
Triplets of Belleville, The New Release
True Lies New Release
Truth about Charlie, The Classic
Turner & Hooch Classic
Tuxedo, The Classic
Twister Classic
Two Weeks Notice Classic
U-571 Classic
Unbreakable Classic
Uncle Buck Classic
Under Siege Classic
Under the Tuscan Sun New Release
Underworld New Release
Unfaithful Classic
Uptown Girls Classic
Usual Suspects, The Classic
Vacation Classic
Vanilla Sky Classic
Vertical Limit Classic
Vice Versa Classic
View from the Top Classic
Waiting for Guffman Classic
Walk to Remember, A Classic
War Games Classic
Waterboy, The Classic
We Were Soldiers Classic
Wedding Planner, The Classic
Wedding Singer, The Classic
Welcome to Mooseport New Release
Whale Rider Classic
What a Girl Wants New Release
What About Bob Classic
What Lies Beneath Classic
What Women Want Classic
When Harry Met Sally Classic
While You Were Sleeping Classic
Who Framed Roger Rabbit New Release
Whole Nine Yards, The New Release
Wild Wild West Classic
Willow Classic
Win a Date With Tad Hamilton Classic
Witness Classic
World Is Not Enough, The Classic
X-Men Classic
X2 Classic
XXX Classic
You've Got Mail Classic
Young Frankenstein Classic
Young Guns II New Release
Zoolander Classic
Zulu New Release
---
I started deleting all the "New Release" and "Classic" designations,
but gave up in the "D's."
--
RonB
"'Father of the Bride?'... yeah... 'Father of the Bride'"
Gene Harris
> Here's a list ClearPlay's movies. While a few could have a couple
> scenes snipped without really harming the movie, most either fall into
> two categories -- either "Why Bother?" because if you filter all the
> objectionable stuff, the movie is gone anyhow -- or, "WTF?" -- kid's or
> family movies that don't *need* anything filtered out for family
> viewing. How anal are these guys anyhow?
I'm guessing that it's a kind of slippery slope -- once you start snipping
a few words here and there out of a few movies, then you start thinking
about other words or scenes that might be "objectionable" to someone,
somewhere. So you snip some more. And then some more ...
Pretty soon it's a frenzy of snipping, with the list of snippable movies
growing by the minute.
"Well, they show a little bit of Minnie's cleavage here -- better cut it."
Gene
MC
Gene Harris <gr8...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Pretty soon it's a frenzy of snipping, with the list of snippable movies
> growing by the minute.
>
> "Well, they show a little bit of Minnie's cleavage here -- better cut it."
>
Well, if we're talking about Minnie Driver I can understand that. The
thought of her cleavage unleashes forces I am powerless to control.
Gene Harris
>> "Well, they show a little bit of Minnie's cleavage here -- better cut
>> it."
>>
>
> Well, if we're talking about Minnie Driver I can understand that. The
> thought of her cleavage unleashes forces I am powerless to control.
I was talking about Minnie Pearl.
Gene
MC
Gene Harris <gr810r...@comcast.net> wrote:
Not Minnie the Moocher?
Gene Harris
Hi-de-hi-de-hi-di-hi!
Ho-de-ho-de-ho-de-ho!
Gene
Asbestos Jeff
> Okay, we've got family "A" who won't watch a movie with swearing,
> sexual innuendo or violence. So... why in the hell would they rent
> "Con-Air," or "Coyote Ugly," or "Charly's Angels" (1 & 2), or "Lethal
> Weapon," or...? And then some of the other movies they filter... "Dr.
> Dolittle?" WTF? "Shrek?" "Snowdogs?" "Signs?" "Kangaroo Jack?" "Angels
> in the Outfield?" "Angels in the FREAKIN' Outfield?" "Finding
> Forrester?" GOOD GRIEF!
I agree. If I don't want pottymouth in my movie, I won't get a movie
with pottymouth in it.
These people are defeating their own cause.
If a user can remove the "fucks" and be happy with the film, the
studio will be less likely to restrain the "fucks" in the first place.
What these services do it remove the threat of boycotts.
MC
sp...@miholer.com (Asbestos Jeff) wrote:
> I agree. If I don't want pottymouth in my movie, I won't get a movie
> with pottymouth in it.
>
> These people are defeating their own cause.
>
> If a user can remove the "fucks" and be happy with the film, the
> studio will be less likely to restrain the "fucks" in the first place.
>
> What these services do it remove the threat of boycotts.
What about the "fuicks"?
nmstevens
I'm telling you -- there's a market for the "Anti-Clear Play" -- one
that will go through all of Minnie's prior movies and accentuate her
cleavage -- nay, add full frontal nude scenes to every Minnie Driver
movie, featuring Minnie herself -- including, I may add -- the
animated Tarzan.
Now that's the kind of add-on program that the American viewing public
can definitely get behind.
Plus, the viewer will come with free gift certificates for beer and
cheese puffs.
NMS
Ovum
films, there wouldn't be anything left but the credits.
However, you could also lighten the Torah, the New Testament and the Qu'ran
(sp) by several hundred pages if you cut all the sex and violence out of them!
So I don't think completely eradicating *all* hints of sexuality or violence
from mainstream movies is the way to go.
On the other hand, the worldview of devout Christians, Jews and Muslims is
basically left out of most of today's mainstream entertainment. That's too bad,
because that's a potential audience of millions of people.
It's so rare -- and refreshing -- to go to a good movie that doesn't cross the
line with obscenity, gratuitous sex and overly graphic violence. The ones that
come to mind are the "family" blockbusters like "Lord of the Rings," "Men in
Black," "Jurassic Park," etc. Usually sci-fi, fantasy and historical films --
like "The Last Samurai" -- fall into this category.
I'm not one of those people who wants to ban other people, who don't have the
beliefs, from making or watching explicit films. I *am* one of those people who
would appreciate a few more non-explicit films like "A Beautiful Mind,"
"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and "The Others."
Lois
------------------------------------------------
You must be the change you want to see in the world.
RonB
> It's so rare -- and refreshing -- to go to a good movie that doesn't
> cross the line with obscenity, gratuitous sex and overly graphic
> violence. The ones that come to mind are the "family" blockbusters
> like "Lord of the Rings," "Men in Black," "Jurassic Park," etc.
> Usually sci-fi, fantasy and historical films -- like "The Last
> Samurai" -- fall into this category.
I think the only non-children's movie that was rated "G" in many years
was "The Rookie." It did very well and I, personally, liked the movie.
What I don't understand about ClearPlay is why in the world are they
messing with movies like "Angels in the Outfield," "Finding
Forrester," "Dr. Doolittle," or "While You Were Sleeping." If folks
find these films "disturbing" enough to need editing -- maybe they
shouldn't be watching movies at all.
--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
Paulo Joe Jingy
> Use your imagination.
They probably want to control that too.
Ron
ov...@aol.comet (Ovum) wrote:
> I agree that if you cut all obscenities, sex and violence out of most current
> films, there wouldn't be anything left but the credits.
>
> However, you could also lighten the Torah, the New Testament and the Qu'ran
> (sp) by several hundred pages if you cut all the sex and violence out of
> them!
> So I don't think completely eradicating *all* hints of sexuality or violence
> from mainstream movies is the way to go.
The thing that upsets me about the sex and violence in most Hollywood
films is that it's bad sex and pointless violence.
I can't remember the last film I saw that dealt with the sex in the way
that everybody I know deals with it.
The two best scripts I've writen are very much about sex. You couldn't
make them without it (or cut it) and preserve the movie. Is it
gratuitous? Hell, no. Is it occasionally in your face and uncomfortable?
Hell, yes.
And if you have a problem with that, your problem isn't with the movie.
It's with the world.
-Ron
(not pointing a finger at you, Lois, just talkingin general and it's
your post that was up next.)