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Cassandra Willinger

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Feb 20, 2011, 6:41:18 PM2/20/11
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Has anyone taken a look at a theoretical vehicular tunnel connection
from the northern end of Baltimore's MLK Blvd to I-83 in the Howard
Street area?

Douglas A. Willinger
A Trip Within The Beltway

rsh...@gmail.com

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Feb 21, 2011, 4:32:38 AM2/21/11
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who wants the traffic from the portals, there Doug?

you do realize any road in the City of Baltimore costs the City 20%
and the state nothing
where does that come from?

and you realize there is a huge push for federal moeny for a RAIL
tunnel to bypass all of Balt as it is a huge bottleneck for CSX

short statement: a vehicular tunnel in the ciy of Balt ain't ever
going to happen

dougwi...@yahoo.com

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Feb 21, 2011, 4:47:14 PM2/21/11
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You have presented no reason why not when the link could be an
interstate highway link. Traffic means it's serving the public- as if
that were bad?

Combining the two- new underground freeway link with improved
underground rail makes too much sense not to consider.

Douglas Willinger
A Trip Within the Beltway

rsh...@gmail.com

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Feb 21, 2011, 5:29:11 PM2/21/11
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On Feb 21, 3:47 pm, "dougwill2...@yahoo.com" <dougwill2...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> You have presented no reason why not when the link could be an
> interstate highway link.  Traffic means it's serving the public- as if
> that were bad?
>
> Combining the two- new underground freeway link with improved
> underground rail makes too much sense not to consider.
>
> Douglas Willinger
> A Trip Within the Beltway
>
> On Feb 21, 4:32 am, "rshe...@gmail.com" <rshe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 5:41 pm, Cassandra Willinger <lcw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Has anyone taken a look at a theoretical vehicular tunnel connection
> > > from the northern end of Baltimore's MLK Blvd to I-83 in the Howard
> > > Street area?
>
> > > Douglas A. Willinger
> > > A Trip Within The Beltway
>
> > who wants the traffic from the portals, there Doug?
>
> > you do realize any road in the City of Baltimore costs the City 20%
> > and the state nothing
> > where does that come from?
>

fine, you have no idea how interstate hwys are funded in MD, in the
City of Baltimore.
Baltimore is responsible for the 20% that normally would be the
state's portion

Lets assume $500Million, 20%=$100million that is about the whole
budget for
Balt City DOT

now are you still with me?

The planing would be done by the Balt DOT and there has been none,
further there is no push for this I am aware if

you would have to start with the Balt Planning Commison and they would
have to put it in the Capital Improvement Program

please have at it and please keep us posted

iow, rots of ruck

> > and you realize there is a  huge push for federal moeny for a RAIL
> > tunnel to bypass all of Balt as it is a huge bottleneck for CSX
>
> > short statement: a vehicular tunnel in the ciy of Balt ain't ever

> > going to happen- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Reality Check

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Feb 21, 2011, 6:23:25 PM2/21/11
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<dougwi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You have presented no reason why not when the link
> could be an interstate highway link. Traffic means it's
> serving the public- as if that were bad?

You'll have to excuse the rancid one. Any project outside of his
precious newark is unworthy in his eyes.

RC


rsh...@gmail.com

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Feb 21, 2011, 7:11:48 PM2/21/11
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On Feb 21, 5:23 pm, "Reality Check" <Real...@Check.Info> wrote:
> <dougwill2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

you are the one speaking well outside your frame of reference

do you even know where the Baltimore Planning Office is?

if not shut the fuck up

why before you run off at the mouth do you not download the Baltimore
Capital Improvement Program

http://www.baltimorecity.gov/Government/AgenciesDepartments/Planning/CapitalImprovementProjects.aspx

have at it

rsh...@gmail.com

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Feb 21, 2011, 7:22:30 PM2/21/11
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On Feb 21, 5:23 pm, "Reality Check" <Real...@Check.Info> wrote:
> <dougwill2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

see what you fail to comprehend in your little useless mind is any


road in the City of

Baltimore is built and financed by the City of Baltimore DOT

NOT the MD State Hwy Adm

can you possibly comprehend that or do you need further explanation

Reality Check

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Feb 21, 2011, 8:50:48 PM2/21/11
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<rsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> you are the one speaking well outside your frame of reference

Atleast I have one as opposed to you and your delusions and
obsessions.

> do you even know where the Baltimore Planning Office is?

401 Bosley Ave

Do you know where West Market Street is?

RC


Reality Check

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Feb 21, 2011, 8:57:44 PM2/21/11
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<rsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> see what you fail to comprehend in your little useless mind is any
> road in the City of Baltimore is built and financed by the City of
> Baltimore DOT

> NOT the MD State Hwy Adm

> can you possibly comprehend that or do you need further explanation

And further upstream in this thread, you state that BCDOT would be
responsible for 20% of the funding for the tunnel project. So where
does the other 80% come from, you fucking idiot? Federal government
maybe? WHich would make the project unworthy in your eyes so long as
the roads in your precious fucking newark are not paved in gold for
your tax cheating hack.

RC

Reality Check

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Feb 21, 2011, 8:57:07 PM2/21/11
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<rsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> see what you fail to comprehend in your little useless mind is any


> road in the City of Baltimore is built and financed by the City of
> Baltimore DOT

> NOT the MD State Hwy Adm

> can you possibly comprehend that or do you need further explanation

And further upstream in this thread, you state that BCDOT would be

Adam

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Feb 22, 2011, 1:05:06 PM2/22/11
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> On Feb 21, 8:57 pm, "Reality Check" <Real...@Check.Info> wrote:
>
> And further upstream in this thread, you state that BCDOT would be
> responsible for 20% of the funding for the tunnel project. So where
> does the other 80% come from, you fucking idiot? Federal government
> maybe? WHich would make the project unworthy in your eyes so long as
> the roads in your precious fucking newark are not paved in gold for
> your tax cheating hack.

To be fair, Randy has a point here. Doesn't matter if the Feds would
kick in 80% or not. 30 years ago, the I-83 connection to I-95 was
cancelled in large part because Baltimore could not afford their
then-10% share. It's not a longshot to think that the same would hold
true today if Willinger's I-83 tunnel pipe-dream were to be
considered.

Froggie | Alexandria, VA | http://www.ajfroggie.com/roads/

rsh...@gmail.com

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Feb 22, 2011, 10:26:11 PM2/22/11
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On Feb 21, 7:57 pm, "Reality Check" <Real...@Check.Info> wrote:
> <rshe...@gmail.com> wrote in message

dip wad, where did I say anything is unworthy?

those are your words, not mine

you can babble all you want, and you are really good at babbling

as long as Baltimore City has to come up with 20% it ain't happening

and if you followed along, Balt City does not want hwys in any form

they want the Red Line Light rail

so run along and grab mammy's apron

she wants her computer back little boy

Otto Yamamoto

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Feb 22, 2011, 11:36:53 PM2/22/11
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On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:26:11 PM UTC-5, rsh...@gmail.com wrote:

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> dip wad, where did I say anything is unworthy?
>

Corridor H in WV. The Interstate 80-Interstate 25 junction works in Wyoming....


>
> you can babble all you want, and you are really good at babbling
>

Says the man who when he runs out of things to say(due to lack of intelligence/dementia) starts dribbling about the blacks in Newark.

rsh...@gmail.com

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Feb 23, 2011, 12:03:15 AM2/23/11
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On Feb 22, 10:36 pm, Otto Yamamoto <comrade.otto.yamam...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:26:11 PM UTC-5, rsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > dip wad, where did I say anything is unworthy?
>
> Corridor H in WV. The Interstate 80-Interstate 25 junction works in Wyoming....
>

talk about introducing babble

lets see if you live long enough, 50 yrs for the completion of pure
pork Corr H

and I really do not understand what you interest in Corr H is

maybe has to do with the stupidity and pork loving of dum dum elkins

80-25, what is the traffic? not much, more pork

regardless, they are going to have to toll

once they do that and use THEIR money, I really don't care

what else there babbling slater?

I am curious there babbler, what is your suggestion for more revenue
for NYSDOT?

that would seem to me closer to home then the pure pork Corr H

but I guess dum dum elkins has to be appeased by you, righto

>
>
> > you can babble all you want, and you are really good at babbling
>
> Says the man who when he runs out of things to say(due to lack of intelligence/dementia) starts dribbling about the blacks in Newark.

whatsamatter niggerland newark bothers you?

http://blog.nj.com/njv_joan_whitlow/2011/01/in_an_instant_safe_turf_become.html


In an instant, safe turf becomes dangerous ground


The school bus that was caught up in a shooting Tuesday in Newark was
not in the wrong place at the wrong time. That bus was right where it
was supposed to be, with three kids remaining to take home after a day
at Dayton Street Elementary School.

hilarious don't you think?

and not one bit ot

Randy Hersh Sniffs Soiled Diapers Behind The Family Dollar On West Market Right Next To University Hospital

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Feb 23, 2011, 1:24:07 AM2/23/11
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"Otto Yamamoto" <comrade.ot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Corridor H in WV. The Interstate 80-Interstate 25 junction works in
> Wyoming....

In other words, any federally funded project outside of Newark and as such
doesn't benefit his racist tax cheating ass.


Randy Hersh Sniffs Soiled Diapers Behind The Family Dollar On West Market Right Next To University Hospital

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Feb 23, 2011, 1:30:25 AM2/23/11
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<rsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> talk about introducing babble

Like you babble in your Ripple.

> and I really do not understand what you interest in Corr H is

What's the rason for your interest in Corr H besides that it won't benefit
you?

> once they do that and use THEIR money, I really don't care

And they aren't using your money either, you leach, so STFU.

> what else there babbling slater?

What are you babbling in now, MD 20/20?


rsh...@gmail.com

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Feb 23, 2011, 1:37:39 AM2/23/11
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On Feb 23, 12:24 am, "Randy Hersh Sniffs Soiled Diapers Behind The
Family Dollar On West Market Right Next To University Hospital"
<f...@rshershisatool.zzz> wrote:
> "Otto Yamamoto" <comrade.otto.yamam...@gmail.com> wrote in message

more incomprehensible babble

the niggers in niggerland newark are waiting for you

bet you wish you made as miney TAX FREE MONEY as I do

you know, I bet you wish you made ANY money

just think, get you own computer and get out of mammy's kitchen

but please keep babbling, please, olease

I just love niggerland newark

niggerland newark

niggerland newark

niggerland newark

niggerland newark

niggerland newark

niggerland newark

niggerland newark

hope you enjoy as much as I do

rsh...@gmail.com

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Feb 22, 2011, 10:30:13 PM2/22/11
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On Feb 21, 7:57 pm, "Reality Check" <Real...@Check.Info> wrote:
> <rshe...@gmail.com> wrote in message

your mammy wants her computer back

I have had a very, very good week so far

TAX FREE MONEY, other then your mammy's apron strings

and a couple of whining babbling posts

what exactly have your done???

babble, babble

dougwi...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2011, 12:58:29 PM2/24/11
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How about Baltimore cancelling their participation in the criminal
mercantilist (pharma-alcohol-cigarette market protection rackett)?
That would save some $$$ that could be redirected.

Douglas Willinger
A Trip Within The Beltway

dougwi...@yahoo.com

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Feb 24, 2011, 12:59:54 PM2/24/11
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> babble, babble- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

No wonder why this "rshe" person does not use a real name. It just
wants to hijack the thread with its junk.

Douglas Willinger
A Trip Within The Beltway

rsh...@gmail.com

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Feb 25, 2011, 12:48:36 AM2/25/11
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On Feb 24, 11:59 am, "dougwill2...@yahoo.com" <dougwill2...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> A Trip Within The Beltway- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

speaking of hijacking a thread

How about Baltimore cancelling their participation in the criminal
mercantilist (pharma-alcohol-cigarette market protection rackett)?
That would save some $$$ that could be redirected

this is garbage

regardless, as long as the City of Baltimore is responsible for 20%
as well as the planning and construction

you are doing nothing but blowing smoke

this is the only tunnel that will possibly ever happen, and I wojuld
not bet on it

http://www.rtands.com/newsflash/opinion-baltimore-tunnel-derailment-points-to-unfinished-business.html

dougwi...@yahoo.com

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Mar 3, 2011, 6:42:38 PM3/3/11
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> http://www.rtands.com/newsflash/opinion-baltimore-tunnel-derailment-p...- Hide quoted text -

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No- the drug 'laws' are garbage opening up all sorts of future civil
rights claims based upon say RICO-False Claims Act prosecutions for
such cigarette market protectionism.

Yes, a new rail tunnel is needed, all I am asking is consideration
that the project be multi-model and connect MLK Bvd with I-83.

rsh...@gmail.com

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Mar 3, 2011, 8:35:08 PM3/3/11
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On Mar 3, 5:42 pm, "dougwill2...@yahoo.com" <dougwill2...@yahoo.com>
> >http://www.rtands.com/newsflash/opinion-baltimore-tunnel-derailment-p...Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> No- the drug 'laws' are garbage opening up all sorts of future civil
> rights claims based upon say RICO-False Claims Act prosecutions for
> such cigarette market protectionism.
>
> Yes, a new rail tunnel is needed, all I am asking is consideration
> that the project be multi-model and connect MLK Bvd with I-83.
>
> Douglas Willinger
> A Trip Within The Beltway- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

understand it will be in the multiple billions, all hwy planning in
the City Of Baltimore has to start with the City of Baltimore dept of
Planning

20% of the funding comes from the city, not the state

you are willing to be the point man on this, have at it

Pete_J

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Mar 20, 2011, 3:46:39 PM3/20/11
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"Cassandra Willinger" <lcw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone taken a look at a theoretical vehicular tunnel connection
> from the northern end of Baltimore's MLK Blvd to I-83 in the Howard
> Street area?
>
Not that I am aware of.

I really hate it, though, that MLK sort of dies out in that area instead of
being better-connected to I-83. It makes it a pain to get from my house in
south Baltimore to 83.

Pete


rsh...@gmail.com

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Mar 20, 2011, 4:36:04 PM3/20/11
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a few things you may not know

Balt City has its own DOT, completely seperate from SHA

MD throws 15% of the state gas tax collection to Balt City and they
are expected to maintain every street and bridge in the City with that
money and fed money

as well any new const in the City the 20% that the federales don't pay
has to come from that 15%

also the JFX and Ft Mc Henry Tunnel were designed, constructed, and
the contracts let by what is now the Balt City DOT, not SHA

in short, it is extremely unlikely there will be any new const in the
city of Baltimore

as an aside will likely will be built is the Great Circle RR Tun

http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/RRDev/brn1.pdf

http://www.fra.dot.gov/downloads/RRDev/brn1.pdf

have at it


are you working for a consultant?

is this your internship for your PE?

good luck

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