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Jul 28, 2011, 9:30:42 AM7/28/11
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html

Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them
up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn�s bestselling
America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the
demise of �European races too self-absorbed to breed,� leading
to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. �In their bizarre
prioritization of �a woman�s right to choose,�� he argued,
�feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
days in a culture that doesn�t accord women the right to choose
anything.�

This neat rhetorical trick�an attack on feminism coupled with
purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny�is
repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it�s
reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik�s
1,500-page manifesto, �2083: A European Declaration of
Independence.� Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety
and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,
Breivik�s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is
intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
This was about sex even more than religion.

Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
instability has affected his own life. His father was a
diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father
wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a �moderate cultural
Marxist and feminist.� Though he describes his stepfather as
somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a �super-
liberal, matriarchal upbringing,� which he says has �contributed
to feminise me to a certain degree.�

A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. �The
female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of
men in Europe,� he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
isolation, saying that he recoils from the �destructive and
suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual
revolution) � In that setting, men are not men anymore, but
metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist
woman goddess.�

Furious and alone, Breivik plugged into the international anti-
jihadist, anti-immigrant right. One of the most notable things
about his manifesto is its scant attention to Norwegian politics
or authors. Most of those he quotes are American, Canadian, or
English, including Steyn, Robert Bork, Rich Lowry, and Melanie
Phillips. Rather than railing against Norwegian feminists, he
attacks Betty Friedan and even the relatively obscure Ellen
Willis. He�s deeply versed in American culture-war issues�at one
point, he even rants about the so-called war on Christmas.

Obviously, none of the writers he cites is responsible for his
hideous crime. However, reading these authors pretty clearly
helped him transmute his anger at women into a grandiose
political ideology, and to recast himself as a latter-day
crusader. He picked up the argument that selfish western women
have allowed Muslims to outbreed them, and that only a
restoration of patriarchy can save European culture. One of the
books he references approvingly is Patrick Buchanan�s The Death
of the West, which argues, �[T]he rise of feminism spells the
death of the nation and the end of the West.�

"His mad act was in the service of male superiority as well as
Christian nationalism."

The demographic theory behind such pronouncements is completely
wrong. In fact, in modern, industrialized countries, feminism is
correlated to higher birthrates. Catholic countries like Poland,
Spain, and Italy have some of the lowest birthrates in Europe,
because society does little to help women combine their
aspirations for work and family, forcing them to choose. France
and Scandinavia are much closer to replacement fertility, which
is crucial to ensuring that pension systems don�t rest on the
shoulders of a rapidly declining number of workers. As the Tory
M.P. David Willetts wrote in a 2003 report, �The evidence from
Italy, and indeed Spain, is that a traditional family structure
now leads to very low birth rates.� Countries concerned about
shrinking populations, he concluded, must find ways to help
working mothers. �Feminism,� he wrote, �is the new natalism.�

Nevertheless, the right clings to the idea that feminism is
destroying Western societies from the inside, creating space for
Islamism to take cover. This politics of emasculation gave shape
to Breivik�s rage. Thus, while he pretends to abhor Muslim
subjugation of women, he writes that the �fate of European
civilisation depends on European men steadfastly resisting
Politically Correct feminism.� When cultural conservatives seize
control of Europe, he promises, �we will re-establish the
patriarchal structures.� Eventually, women �conditioned� to this
new order �will know her place in society.� His mad act was in
the service of male superiority as well as Christian
nationalism. Those two things, of course, almost always go
together.

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Nationalism and The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the
Future of the World, winner of the 2008 J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-
Progress Award and the Ernesta Drinker Ballard Book Prize.
Goldberg's work has appeared in Glamour, Rolling Stone, The
Nation, New York magazine, The Guardian, and The New Republic.
Her third book, about the world-traveling adventuress, actress,
and yoga evangelist Indra Devi, will be published by Knopf in
2012.

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Jul 28, 2011, 9:47:48 AM7/28/11
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:30:42 +0200, "Code Pink" <code...@sickos.usa>
wrote:

>http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
>anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>

First instant I saw his picture they were putting out on the news
outlets, my gaydar went off big time. He's just, too... pretty.
Definately a repressed homosexual with an intense hatred of women.
Like most conservatives.

Saul Zonana

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Jul 28, 2011, 10:16:27 AM7/28/11
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He's one of yours you mean, right, you retard?

Bert Hyman

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Jul 28, 2011, 10:21:15 AM7/28/11
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> First instant I saw his picture they were putting out on the news
> outlets, my gaydar went off big time. He's just, too... pretty.

Scratch a progressive, find a bigot.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

Jeff M

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Jul 28, 2011, 10:29:33 AM7/28/11
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On 7/28/2011 9:21 AM, Bert Hyman wrote:
> In news:a0q237pbnv0ckubop...@4ax.com de...@dudu.org wrote:
>
>> First instant I saw his picture they were putting out on the news
>> outlets, my gaydar went off big time. He's just, too... pretty.
>
> Scratch a progressive, find a bigot.

And conservatives are sooo tolerant and accepting of gays, right?

Bert Hyman

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Jul 28, 2011, 10:34:24 AM7/28/11
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In news:3cSdnScx3cPO76zT...@giganews.com Jeff M
<NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:

Are you happy now that you've determined that some progressives (and
self-styled "liberals") are just as bad as some conservatives?

Jeff M

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Jul 28, 2011, 10:36:37 AM7/28/11
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A person's goodness or badness isn't usually determined by their
political, or their sexual, orientation.

Bert Hyman

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Jul 28, 2011, 10:44:45 AM7/28/11
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In news:GKGdnQRbR6Bh7qzT...@giganews.com Jeff M
<NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:

So, where'd your comment about "conservatives" come from?

Bert Hyman

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Jul 28, 2011, 10:47:38 AM7/28/11
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In news:GKGdnQRbR6Bh7qzT...@giganews.com Jeff M
<NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:

> A person's goodness or badness isn't usually determined by their
> political, or their sexual, orientation.

But a person's political "orientation" can be determined by their
goodness or badness.

Underlying the politics of both major US political parties is the desire
to control others, to use the police power of the state to impose their
will on them.

Jeff M

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Jul 28, 2011, 10:53:19 AM7/28/11
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Their indisputable collective track record of animosity toward gays.
Individual exceptions exist, but their overall pattern of hostility
toward matters of interest to gays is evident.

de...@dudu.org

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Jul 28, 2011, 11:19:05 AM7/28/11
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On 28 Jul 2011 14:21:15 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:

>In news:a0q237pbnv0ckubop...@4ax.com de...@dudu.org wrote:
>
>> First instant I saw his picture they were putting out on the news
>> outlets, my gaydar went off big time. He's just, too... pretty.
>
>Scratch a progressive, find a bigot.

I never said I had anything against gays. Only repressed sociopathic
nutjobs. There's a difference you know.

de...@dudu.org

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Jul 28, 2011, 11:20:30 AM7/28/11
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Well duh. You don't actually believe there is any such thing as a
libertarian politician do you?

de...@dudu.org

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Jul 28, 2011, 11:21:35 AM7/28/11
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:16:27 -0400, Saul Zonana <Pha...@bass.gov>
wrote:

Nah, he's a right wing Christian pervert, so he's definately one of
yours.

Saul Zonana

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Jul 28, 2011, 11:27:14 AM7/28/11
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And which one are you again?

Saul Zonana

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Jul 28, 2011, 11:28:57 AM7/28/11
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de...@dudu.org wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:16:27 -0400, Saul Zonana <Pha...@bass.gov>
> wrote:
>
>
>>de...@dudu.org wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:30:42 +0200, "Code Pink" <code...@sickos.usa>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
>>>>anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>First instant I saw his picture they were putting out on the news
>>>outlets, my gaydar went off big time. He's just, too... pretty.
>>>Definately a repressed homosexual with an intense hatred of women.
>>
>>He's one of yours you mean, right, you retard?
>
>
> Nah, he's a right wing Christian pervert, so he's definately one of
> yours.

I'm not right wing or Christian, you retard.
(my wife sez I'm a little pervert though. That's why she married me.)

(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:30:42 +0200,
ANONYMOUS COWARD, "Code Pink" <code...@sickos.usa> wrote:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html

http://
www.
thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/
norway-massacre-anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html

> [BIGOTS] worried about the Islamization of Europe often
> blame feminism...

WHINY clueless wonders.

And -- BTW -- a *lot* of HETEROsexual guys hate women.

Just ask the ones who've been VICTIMIZED by ALIMONY.

And "community property" laws.

So the subject header is dishonest.


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On Thu 7/28/11 8:30, Code Pink wrote:
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
> anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>
> Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
> blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them
> up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn�s bestselling

> America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the
> demise of �European races too self-absorbed to breed,� leading
> to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. �In their bizarre
> prioritization of �a woman�s right to choose,�� he argued,
> �feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
> days in a culture that doesn�t accord women the right to choose
> anything.�
>
> This neat rhetorical trick�an attack on feminism coupled with
> purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny�is
> repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it�s
> reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik�s
> 1,500-page manifesto, �2083: A European Declaration of
> Independence.� Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety

> and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,
> Breivik�s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is

> intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
> his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
> This was about sex even more than religion.
>
> Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
> Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
> instability has affected his own life. His father was a
> diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
> parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
> feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father
> wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a �moderate cultural
> Marxist and feminist.� Though he describes his stepfather as
> somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a �super-
> liberal, matriarchal upbringing,� which he says has �contributed
> to feminise me to a certain degree.�
>
> A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. �The

> female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
> the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of
> men in Europe,� he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
> isolation, saying that he recoils from the �destructive and

> suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual
> revolution) � In that setting, men are not men anymore, but

> metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
> purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist
> woman goddess.�

>
> Furious and alone, Breivik plugged into the international anti-
> jihadist, anti-immigrant right. One of the most notable things
> about his manifesto is its scant attention to Norwegian politics
> or authors. Most of those he quotes are American, Canadian, or
> English, including Steyn, Robert Bork, Rich Lowry, and Melanie
> Phillips. Rather than railing against Norwegian feminists, he
> attacks Betty Friedan and even the relatively obscure Ellen
> Willis. He�s deeply versed in American culture-war issues�at one

> point, he even rants about the so-called war on Christmas.
>
> Obviously, none of the writers he cites is responsible for his
> hideous crime. However, reading these authors pretty clearly
> helped him transmute his anger at women into a grandiose
> political ideology, and to recast himself as a latter-day
> crusader. He picked up the argument that selfish western women
> have allowed Muslims to outbreed them, and that only a
> restoration of patriarchy can save European culture. One of the
> books he references approvingly is Patrick Buchanan�s The Death
> of the West, which argues, �[T]he rise of feminism spells the
> death of the nation and the end of the West.�

>
> "His mad act was in the service of male superiority as well as
> Christian nationalism."
>
> The demographic theory behind such pronouncements is completely
> wrong. In fact, in modern, industrialized countries, feminism is
> correlated to higher birthrates. Catholic countries like Poland,
> Spain, and Italy have some of the lowest birthrates in Europe,
> because society does little to help women combine their
> aspirations for work and family, forcing them to choose. France
> and Scandinavia are much closer to replacement fertility, which
> is crucial to ensuring that pension systems don�t rest on the

> shoulders of a rapidly declining number of workers. As the Tory
> M.P. David Willetts wrote in a 2003 report, �The evidence from

> Italy, and indeed Spain, is that a traditional family structure
> now leads to very low birth rates.� Countries concerned about

> shrinking populations, he concluded, must find ways to help
> working mothers. �Feminism,� he wrote, �is the new natalism.�

>
> Nevertheless, the right clings to the idea that feminism is
> destroying Western societies from the inside, creating space for
> Islamism to take cover. This politics of emasculation gave shape
> to Breivik�s rage. Thus, while he pretends to abhor Muslim
> subjugation of women, he writes that the �fate of European

> civilisation depends on European men steadfastly resisting
> Politically Correct feminism.� When cultural conservatives seize
> control of Europe, he promises, �we will re-establish the
> patriarchal structures.� Eventually, women �conditioned� to this
> new order �will know her place in society.� His mad act was in

> the service of male superiority as well as Christian
> nationalism. Those two things, of course, almost always go
> together.
>
> Like The Daily Beast on Facebook and follow us on Twitter for
> updates all day long.
>
> Michelle Goldberg is a senior contributing writer for
> Newsweek/The Daily Beast. She is the author of the New York
> Times bestseller Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian
> Nationalism and The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the
> Future of the World, winner of the 2008 J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-
> Progress Award and the Ernesta Drinker Ballard Book Prize.
> Goldberg's work has appeared in Glamour, Rolling Stone, The
> Nation, New York magazine, The Guardian, and The New Republic.
> Her third book, about the world-traveling adventuress, actress,
> and yoga evangelist Indra Devi, will be published by Knopf in
> 2012.
>
> For inquiries, please contact The Daily Beast at
> edit...@thedailybeast.com.
>
He wants to keep women in their place - subservient to men, barefoot,
and pregnant. Sounds like a fundy Christians to me.

SaPeIsMa

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"Dakota" <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
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More like stupid bullshit from you and the author.

Gray Ghost

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Jul 28, 2011, 11:37:31 PM7/28/11
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"Code Pink" <code...@sickos.usa> wrote in
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> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
> anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>

Islamophobic? Do you have any idea what Muslims do to fags? As opposed to the
West's integfrating them into every aspect of life?

I hope you get to meet a real mullah real soon.

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ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have THAT much
competence?

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"(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>" <a...@d.com> wrote
in news:tg033712hom0g2cmk...@4ax.com:

>
>

Has it not occured to you that if people are filtering your id that they
don't care what you have to say? And that by changing it a little and
reappearing oh so briefly labels you as a complete dumbass who doesn't get
it?

Tankfixer

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In article <8jv237ppvjm7qia5r...@4ax.com>, - de...@dudu.org
de...@dudu.org spouted !

Why did he mention Christianity once in his screed but the NYT numerous
times ?

Tankfixer

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In article <5ev237d2m6utska7g...@4ax.com>, - de...@dudu.org
de...@dudu.org spouted !

> On 28 Jul 2011 14:21:15 GMT, Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
> > [quoted text muted]

> >
> >> First instant I saw his picture they were putting out on the news
> >> outlets, my gaydar went off big time. He's just, too... pretty.
> >
> >Scratch a progressive, find a bigot.
>
> I never said I had anything against gays. Only repressed sociopathic
> nutjobs. There's a difference you know.
>
>

So your problem is self loathing... Got it.

Tankfixer

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In article <VtGdnb8pJLm...@giganews.com>, - Dakota
ma...@NOSPAMmail.com spouted !

>
> On Thu 7/28/11 8:30, Code Pink wrote:
> > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
> > anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
> >
> > Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
> > blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them
> > up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn?s bestselling

> > America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the
> > demise of ?European races too self-absorbed to breed,? leading
> > to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. ?In their bizarre
> > prioritization of ?a woman?s right to choose,?? he argued,
> > ?feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
> > days in a culture that doesn?t accord women the right to choose
> > anything.?
> >
> > This neat rhetorical trick?an attack on feminism coupled with
> > purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny?is
> > repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it?s
> > reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik?s
> > 1,500-page manifesto, ?2083: A European Declaration of
> > Independence.? Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety

> > and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,
> > Breivik?s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is

> > intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
> > his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
> > This was about sex even more than religion.
> >
> > Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
> > Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
> > instability has affected his own life. His father was a
> > diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
> > parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
> > feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father
> > wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a ?moderate cultural
> > Marxist and feminist.? Though he describes his stepfather as
> > somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a ?super-
> > liberal, matriarchal upbringing,? which he says has ?contributed
> > to feminise me to a certain degree.?
> >
> > A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. ?The

> > female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
> > the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of
> > men in Europe,? he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
> > isolation, saying that he recoils from the ?destructive and

> > suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual
> > revolution) ? In that setting, men are not men anymore, but

> > metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
> > purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist
> > woman goddess.?

> >
> > Furious and alone, Breivik plugged into the international anti-
> > jihadist, anti-immigrant right. One of the most notable things
> > about his manifesto is its scant attention to Norwegian politics
> > or authors. Most of those he quotes are American, Canadian, or
> > English, including Steyn, Robert Bork, Rich Lowry, and Melanie
> > Phillips. Rather than railing against Norwegian feminists, he
> > attacks Betty Friedan and even the relatively obscure Ellen
> > Willis. He?s deeply versed in American culture-war issues?at one

> > point, he even rants about the so-called war on Christmas.
> >
> > Obviously, none of the writers he cites is responsible for his
> > hideous crime. However, reading these authors pretty clearly
> > helped him transmute his anger at women into a grandiose
> > political ideology, and to recast himself as a latter-day
> > crusader. He picked up the argument that selfish western women
> > have allowed Muslims to outbreed them, and that only a
> > restoration of patriarchy can save European culture. One of the
> > books he references approvingly is Patrick Buchanan?s The Death
> > of the West, which argues, ?[T]he rise of feminism spells the
> > death of the nation and the end of the West.?

> >
> > "His mad act was in the service of male superiority as well as
> > Christian nationalism."
> >
> > The demographic theory behind such pronouncements is completely
> > wrong. In fact, in modern, industrialized countries, feminism is
> > correlated to higher birthrates. Catholic countries like Poland,
> > Spain, and Italy have some of the lowest birthrates in Europe,
> > because society does little to help women combine their
> > aspirations for work and family, forcing them to choose. France
> > and Scandinavia are much closer to replacement fertility, which
> > is crucial to ensuring that pension systems don?t rest on the

> > shoulders of a rapidly declining number of workers. As the Tory
> > M.P. David Willetts wrote in a 2003 report, ?The evidence from

> > Italy, and indeed Spain, is that a traditional family structure
> > now leads to very low birth rates.? Countries concerned about

> > shrinking populations, he concluded, must find ways to help
> > working mothers. ?Feminism,? he wrote, ?is the new natalism.?

> >
> > Nevertheless, the right clings to the idea that feminism is
> > destroying Western societies from the inside, creating space for
> > Islamism to take cover. This politics of emasculation gave shape
> > to Breivik?s rage. Thus, while he pretends to abhor Muslim
> > subjugation of women, he writes that the ?fate of European

> > civilisation depends on European men steadfastly resisting
> > Politically Correct feminism.? When cultural conservatives seize
> > control of Europe, he promises, ?we will re-establish the
> > patriarchal structures.? Eventually, women ?conditioned? to this
> > new order ?will know her place in society.? His mad act was in

> > the service of male superiority as well as Christian
> > nationalism. Those two things, of course, almost always go
> > together.
> >
> > Like The Daily Beast on Facebook and follow us on Twitter for
> > updates all day long.
> >
> > Michelle Goldberg is a senior contributing writer for
> > Newsweek/The Daily Beast. She is the author of the New York
> > Times bestseller Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian
> > Nationalism and The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the
> > Future of the World, winner of the 2008 J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-
> > Progress Award and the Ernesta Drinker Ballard Book Prize.
> > Goldberg's work has appeared in Glamour, Rolling Stone, The
> > Nation, New York magazine, The Guardian, and The New Republic.
> > Her third book, about the world-traveling adventuress, actress,
> > and yoga evangelist Indra Devi, will be published by Knopf in
> > 2012.
> >
> > For inquiries, please contact The Daily Beast at
> > edit...@thedailybeast.com.
> >
> He wants to keep women in their place - subservient to men, barefoot,
> and pregnant. Sounds like a fundy Christians to me.

Not that many of those around you know. Though I'm sure you check under
your bed often just to make sure.

And those traits, sure sound like that religion of peace called Islam...

Army Brat

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Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu 7/28/11 8:30, Code Pink wrote:
> > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
> > anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
> >
> > Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
> > blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them
> > up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn�s bestselling

> > America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the
> > demise of �European races too self-absorbed to breed,� leading
> > to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. �In their bizarre

> > prioritization of �a woman�s right to choose,�� he argued,
> > �feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
> > days in a culture that doesn�t accord women the right to choose
> > anything.�
> >
> > This neat rhetorical trick�an attack on feminism coupled with
> > purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny�is
> > repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it�s
> > reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik�s
> > 1,500-page manifesto, �2083: A European Declaration of
> > Independence.� Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety

> > and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,
> > Breivik�s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is

> > intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
> > his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
> > This was about sex even more than religion.
> >
> > Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
> > Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
> > instability has affected his own life. His father was a
> > diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
> > parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
> > feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father
> > wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a �moderate cultural
> > Marxist and feminist.� Though he describes his stepfather as

> > somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a �super-
> > liberal, matriarchal upbringing,� which he says has �contributed
> > to feminise me to a certain degree.�
> >
> > A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. �The

> > female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
> > the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of
> > men in Europe,� he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
> > isolation, saying that he recoils from the �destructive and

> > suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual
> > revolution) � In that setting, men are not men anymore, but

> > metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
> > purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist
> > woman goddess.�

> >
> > Furious and alone, Breivik plugged into the international anti-
> > jihadist, anti-immigrant right. One of the most notable things
> > about his manifesto is its scant attention to Norwegian politics
> > or authors. Most of those he quotes are American, Canadian, or
> > English, including Steyn, Robert Bork, Rich Lowry, and Melanie
> > Phillips. Rather than railing against Norwegian feminists, he
> > attacks Betty Friedan and even the relatively obscure Ellen
> > Willis. He�s deeply versed in American culture-war issues�at one

> > point, he even rants about the so-called war on Christmas.
> >
> > Obviously, none of the writers he cites is responsible for his
> > hideous crime. However, reading these authors pretty clearly
> > helped him transmute his anger at women into a grandiose
> > political ideology, and to recast himself as a latter-day
> > crusader. He picked up the argument that selfish western women
> > have allowed Muslims to outbreed them, and that only a
> > restoration of patriarchy can save European culture. One of the
> > books he references approvingly is Patrick Buchanan�s The Death
> > of the West, which argues, �[T]he rise of feminism spells the
> > death of the nation and the end of the West.�

> >
> > "His mad act was in the service of male superiority as well as
> > Christian nationalism."
> >
> > The demographic theory behind such pronouncements is completely
> > wrong. In fact, in modern, industrialized countries, feminism is
> > correlated to higher birthrates. Catholic countries like Poland,
> > Spain, and Italy have some of the lowest birthrates in Europe,
> > because society does little to help women combine their
> > aspirations for work and family, forcing them to choose. France
> > and Scandinavia are much closer to replacement fertility, which
> > is crucial to ensuring that pension systems don�t rest on the

> > shoulders of a rapidly declining number of workers. As the Tory
> > M.P. David Willetts wrote in a 2003 report, �The evidence from

> > Italy, and indeed Spain, is that a traditional family structure
> > now leads to very low birth rates.� Countries concerned about

> > shrinking populations, he concluded, must find ways to help
> > working mothers. �Feminism,� he wrote, �is the new natalism.�
> >
> > Nevertheless, the right clings to the idea that feminism is
> > destroying Western societies from the inside, creating space for
> > Islamism to take cover. This politics of emasculation gave shape
> > to Breivik�s rage. Thus, while he pretends to abhor Muslim
> > subjugation of women, he writes that the �fate of European

> > civilisation depends on European men steadfastly resisting
> > Politically Correct feminism.� When cultural conservatives seize
> > control of Europe, he promises, �we will re-establish the

> > patriarchal structures.� Eventually, women �conditioned� to this
> > new order �will know her place in society.� His mad act was in

> > the service of male superiority as well as Christian
> > nationalism. Those two things, of course, almost always go
> > together.
> >
> > Like The Daily Beast on Facebook and follow us on Twitter for
> > updates all day long.
> >
> > Michelle Goldberg is a senior contributing writer for
> > Newsweek/The Daily Beast. She is the author of the New York
> > Times bestseller Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian
> > Nationalism and The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the
> > Future of the World, winner of the 2008 J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-
> > Progress Award and the Ernesta Drinker Ballard Book Prize.
> > Goldberg's work has appeared in Glamour, Rolling Stone, The
> > Nation, New York magazine, The Guardian, and The New Republic.
> > Her third book, about the world-traveling adventuress, actress,
> > and yoga evangelist Indra Devi, will be published by Knopf in
> > 2012.
> >
> > For inquiries, please contact The Daily Beast at
> > edit...@thedailybeast.com.
> >
> He wants to keep women in their place - subservient to men, barefoot,
> and pregnant. Sounds like a fundy Christians to me.

More like a Jehovah Witness.

You bedwetters wouldn't know a fundy Christian if they were
standing there serving you glasses of smoking koolaid.

(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 03:38:58 +0000 (UTC),
Gray Ghost <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> (�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���)
> <http://www.TravelForPay.org> wrote:


> Has it not occured to you that if people are filtering your id that
> they don't care what you have to say?

Of COURSE it has. For many years now. I have no respect for
such ostriches, but that's pretty moot since I have ZERO respect for
bigots in the first place. (Interestingly, kill-filers make themselves
fair game for their opponents; they can easily be refuted, and go
unaware that that has happened to them! Goes along with their
level of mentality quite consistently. (LOL!!)

Bigots have about as much regard for the FACTS that are damaging
to their hate-agendas as Dracula would have for crosses, noonday sun,
wooden stakes, and noonday sunshine. So many of them RUN, and try
to live in denial of the fact that NO facts even EXIST that support their
worthless and pointless agendas against FAIRNESS.

Trolls clearly seek to bait their opponents. But me -- I couldn't care
less if any of the latter EVER read my posts. With or without seeing
them, they will continue to self-destruct very spectacularly anyway, in
keeping with Point (2) at the end of the SIG of this post. They literally
can't resist doing that!

That said, I don't mind it a bit when bigots DO make immature fools
of themselves by either forging me, or WHINING a lot about me, since
that is reaffirmation that what I say IS damaging to their hate-agendas.

(It probably would dishearten them if they could understand *how*
much I *love* for them to act in that manner. They succeed ONLY in
eroding their OWN agendas in the process! Works for me!! Egalitarians
are very USED to being disparaged by mindless bigots, and it's like water
off a duck's back. ESPECIALLY to those of us who were workers and
activists in the South 50 years ago. We drove the lowlife segregation-
ists bats! Especially during the END game, when they realized that their
regime was irrevocably DOOMED. Which is the stage that today's homo-
phobic bigots have reached, here in the USA, and in much of the rest of
the civilized world.)

That reaffirmation I mentioned above is encouraging to me, and to
any other egalitarians who observe it happening. AND, as I said in the
aforementioned Point (2), below, bigots DO publicly harm their own
loathsome agendas by doing that. The damage they do to themselves
is equally-grievously-damaging to their lowlife agendas as the FACTS
are!

> And that by changing it a little and reappearing oh so briefly...

FACTS are immutable. Thus, there are only so many ways that they
can be presented.

AND -- whenever a person makes a *doltish* response to one of
my posts that is undeserving of a response, I often simply re-post my
previous post to make that clear.

All of the above said, one final point: My FACT-filled posts are
provided in line with Strategy (1), below. And provide a steady source
of talking points for other egalitarians to make use of, as they wish.

When egalitarians present both facts, and varying ways to consider
how they can be wielded against hateful agendas, there is always the
chance that they might be providing new ideas that had not yet been
considered by others who are reading them. Or that they are planting
seeds for the germination of new arguments, concepts, and strategies
hitherto unthought-of.

If you care at all about being FAIR to ALL people -- and about seeing
specious and hateful agendas against HARMLESS human & civil rights
and personal liberties that are being directed against tens of millions of
people for absolutely NO valid reason being eradicated from this planet,
then maybe you will understand this post in response to what you have
said. Many of the bigots whose minds are steeped in the poison of their
toxic agendas won't even see it.

We ARE in the midst of Civil Rights Movement II.

CRM I liberated the blacks in the USA from mindless discrimination,
hatefulness, repression and disparagement.

The branch of CRM II that deals with ensuring that all girls and women
are treated fairly in the workplace, and with easy access to the remedy
of abortion upon their request was largely one when the U.S. Supreme
Court granted them the greatest form of EMANCIPATION the nation
had seen since Lincoln freed the slaves -- in "Roe vs. Wade." But a lot
of work still needs to be done to undermine and rescind the hateful and
specious laws that many states have passed to make access to the
remedy of abortion more difficult.

The other branch of CRM II is succeeding spectacularly at an acceler-
dating rate: the enabling of society to recognize and understand that
ALL of the sexual orientations are merely TRIVIAL variations of NORMAL-
CY that people are BORN with -- just like the handednesses, eye colors,
and races. And thus that any disparagements and discriminations
against any person or group on so specious a basis is truly IDIOTIC --
and something that only ignoramuses and lowlifes would want to have
any part of. The goal of CRM II is to fully raise the consciousness of
society to that, so that the fate that befalls such hateful agendas
against gays in the workplace, housing, and marriage -- and the bigots
who have been promoting them -- will be identical to the one that befell
the segregationists: the EXTINCTION of the hate-agendas, and social
PARIAH status for any remaining homophobic bigot who *doesn't*
closet his hate in his mind in self-preservation, as most of the former
segregationists who continued to be racists so sensibly did. Bigots who
CLOSET those mental toxins and aberrations are HARMLESS to society.

I hope this clarifies everything for you. The ball's in your court, now.


*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

When ALL of the FACTS Support the Egalitarians...
and NO Facts Even EXIST to Support the Bigots...
the Raising of Society's Consciousness to the SPECIOUSNESS
of the Bigots' Agendas Reaches Critical Mass...
and Permanent EXTINCTION of the Hate-Agendas is the Result!

EVERY Single Time!


On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 05:12:29 +1000,
"RamRod, Sword of Baal" <ram...@truthonly.com> wrote:

http://www.archiecomics.com/blog/news/2010/09/sold-out-kevin-keller-demands-first-reprint-in-archie-history.html

(Reassemble URL in browser if the above becomes shortened.) ---

http://
www.
archiecomics.com/blog/news/2010/09/
sold-out-kevin-keller-demands-first-reprint-in-archie-history.html

> SOLD-OUT KEVIN KELLER DEMANDS FIRST REPRINT IN ARCHIE HISTORY
>
> New York, NY (September 27, 2010): Archie Comics' teen sensation
> Kevin Keller-- the first gay character in Archie Comics' line of books --
> has been welcomed enthusiastically by Versace, the New York Times,
> and fans from every corner of the world.
>
> To celebrate the SOLD-OUT first printing of Kevin Keller's debut issue,
> Veronica #202, Archie Comics is going back to the press for a special
> limited edition variant cover print run of Veronica #202.
>
>---------------------------------

http://perezhilton.com/2011-07-21-kevin-keller-gets-own-archie-comic-series

http://
perezhilton.com/
2011-07-21-kevin-keller-gets-own-archie-comic-series

> Last year, the awesome minds behind the Archie comics introduced
> its first openly gay character to the series, named Kevin Keller, and to
> say that he's become quite popular with readers and the LGBT commu-
> nity alike is a pretty big understatement!
>
> IN fact, feedback has been so positive that Kevin will be getting his
> own monthly comic book, starting next February! [2012.]

Good show, in both cases!

These moves will FURTHER bolster consciousness-raising by society to
the TRUTH -- that all of the sexual orientations are INDEED merely TRIVIAL
variations of NORMALCY that people are BORN with, just like handedness,
race, and eye color.

Which in turn will FURTHER bolster society's REVULSION to the hateful,
ignorant, irrational, and sociopathic BIGOTS who moronically disparage,
discriminate against,or publicly advocate discriminate against LGBTs for
absolutely NO good reason. Causing society to REJECT their hate-agen-
das, want NOTHING to do with the bigots -- and to *regard* those losers
as the PARIAHS that they truly are.

Some years ago, a black character (named Clayton, if I recall correctly)
was added to the Archie lineup to make the same point, and he was publicly
received with received with similar enthusiasm.

EVERY instance of such consciousness-raising, no matter how small
or how large, is a building block to a new, impenetrable wall that will
forever protect society from a given form of irrational bigotry, to prevent
that form of it from EVER re-emerging to INFEST society.

Another example of a MAJOR building block in that hugely-beneficial
barrier was provided on June 24, 2011 when New York State reaffirmed
that there was NO valid reason to continue the hateful *exclusion* of
same-sex couples from marriage, and the subsequent enthusiastic cele-
brations that followed. Including THIS:

http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=8762&MediaType=1&Category=26

http://
www.
ontopmag.com/
article.aspx?id=8762&MediaType=1&Category=26


RAISING society's concsiousness to the the fact that hate-agendas
are TOXIC to it is the KEY to rendering the hate=agendas extinct. This
is accomplished in TWO ways:

(1) Clearly and publicly presenting the FACTS that support the
innocent people being targeted by disparagement and big-
otry, which prove that there is NO valid reason for treating
those folks in that manner. WHILE making it clear that the
bigots have NO facts on their side, whatsoever.

(2) By the doltish bigots, *themselves*, making complete fools
of themselves by PROVING that they have nothing but
VACUOUS "arguments," lies, scare tactics, and propaganda
to work with. (Causing people to realize that the bigots are
lowlifes that they would want to have NO association with.)

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Gray Ghost

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de...@dudu.org wrote in news:5ev237d2m6utska7g...@4ax.com:

What? No compassion for the mentally ill!! What is wrong with you?

Gray Ghost

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Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in
news:VtGdnb8pJLm...@giganews.com:

> On Thu 7/28/11 8:30, Code Pink wrote:
>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
>> anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>>
>> Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
>> blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them

>> up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn�s bestselling


>> America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the

>> demise of �European races too self-absorbed to breed,� leading
>> to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. �In their bizarre
>> prioritization of �a woman�s right to choose,�� he argued,
>> �feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
>> days in a culture that doesn�t accord women the right to choose
>> anything.�
>>

>> This neat rhetorical trick�an attack on feminism coupled with
>> purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny�is
>> repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it�s
>> reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik�s
>> 1,500-page manifesto, �2083: A European Declaration of
>> Independence.� Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety


>> and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,

>> Breivik�s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is


>> intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
>> his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
>> This was about sex even more than religion.
>>
>> Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
>> Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
>> instability has affected his own life. His father was a
>> diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
>> parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
>> feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father

>> wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a �moderate cultural
>> Marxist and feminist.� Though he describes his stepfather as
>> somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a �super-

>> liberal, matriarchal upbringing,� which he says has �contributed
>> to feminise me to a certain degree.�
>>
>> A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. �The


>> female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
>> the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of

>> men in Europe,� he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
>> isolation, saying that he recoils from the �destructive and


>> suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual

>> revolution) � In that setting, men are not men anymore, but


>> metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
>> purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist

>> woman goddess.�


>>
>> Furious and alone, Breivik plugged into the international anti-
>> jihadist, anti-immigrant right. One of the most notable things
>> about his manifesto is its scant attention to Norwegian politics
>> or authors. Most of those he quotes are American, Canadian, or
>> English, including Steyn, Robert Bork, Rich Lowry, and Melanie
>> Phillips. Rather than railing against Norwegian feminists, he
>> attacks Betty Friedan and even the relatively obscure Ellen

>> Willis. He�s deeply versed in American culture-war issues�at one


>> point, he even rants about the so-called war on Christmas.
>>
>> Obviously, none of the writers he cites is responsible for his
>> hideous crime. However, reading these authors pretty clearly
>> helped him transmute his anger at women into a grandiose
>> political ideology, and to recast himself as a latter-day
>> crusader. He picked up the argument that selfish western women
>> have allowed Muslims to outbreed them, and that only a
>> restoration of patriarchy can save European culture. One of the

>> books he references approvingly is Patrick Buchanan�s The Death
>> of the West, which argues, �[T]he rise of feminism spells the
>> death of the nation and the end of the West.�


>>
>> "His mad act was in the service of male superiority as well as
>> Christian nationalism."
>>
>> The demographic theory behind such pronouncements is completely
>> wrong. In fact, in modern, industrialized countries, feminism is
>> correlated to higher birthrates. Catholic countries like Poland,
>> Spain, and Italy have some of the lowest birthrates in Europe,
>> because society does little to help women combine their
>> aspirations for work and family, forcing them to choose. France
>> and Scandinavia are much closer to replacement fertility, which

>> is crucial to ensuring that pension systems don�t rest on the


>> shoulders of a rapidly declining number of workers. As the Tory

>> M.P. David Willetts wrote in a 2003 report, �The evidence from


>> Italy, and indeed Spain, is that a traditional family structure

>> now leads to very low birth rates.� Countries concerned about


>> shrinking populations, he concluded, must find ways to help

>> working mothers. �Feminism,� he wrote, �is the new natalism.�
>>

>> Nevertheless, the right clings to the idea that feminism is
>> destroying Western societies from the inside, creating space for
>> Islamism to take cover. This politics of emasculation gave shape

>> to Breivik�s rage. Thus, while he pretends to abhor Muslim
>> subjugation of women, he writes that the �fate of European


>> civilisation depends on European men steadfastly resisting

>> Politically Correct feminism.� When cultural conservatives seize
>> control of Europe, he promises, �we will re-establish the
>> patriarchal structures.� Eventually, women �conditioned� to this

>> new order �will know her place in society.� His mad act was in


>> the service of male superiority as well as Christian
>> nationalism. Those two things, of course, almost always go
>> together.
>>
>> Like The Daily Beast on Facebook and follow us on Twitter for
>> updates all day long.
>>
>> Michelle Goldberg is a senior contributing writer for
>> Newsweek/The Daily Beast. She is the author of the New York
>> Times bestseller Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian
>> Nationalism and The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the
>> Future of the World, winner of the 2008 J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-
>> Progress Award and the Ernesta Drinker Ballard Book Prize.
>> Goldberg's work has appeared in Glamour, Rolling Stone, The
>> Nation, New York magazine, The Guardian, and The New Republic.
>> Her third book, about the world-traveling adventuress, actress,
>> and yoga evangelist Indra Devi, will be published by Knopf in
>> 2012.
>>
>> For inquiries, please contact The Daily Beast at
>> edit...@thedailybeast.com.
>>
> He wants to keep women in their place - subservient to men, barefoot,
> and pregnant. Sounds like a fundy Christians to me.
>

Would you happen to have the brains and ability to compare the status of
women in Christain countries versus Islamic countries?

Or does the obvious elude you?

Leroy Blue

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"(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>"
<a...@d.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:30:42 +0200,
> ANONYMOUS COWARD, "Code Pink" <code...@sickos.usa> wrote:
>
>
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>
> http://
> www.
> thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/
> norway-massacre-anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>
> > [BIGOTS] worried about the Islamization of Europe often
> > blame feminism...
>
> WHINY clueless wonders.

Faggots clamoring for marriage sound like that.

> And -- BTW -- a *lot* of HETEROsexual guys hate women.

But you're not one of them because you're not a heterosexual.
Even the queers aren't sure what you are sometimes other than
pure nuts.

>
> Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
> Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
> instability has affected his own life. His father was a
> diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
> parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
> feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father
> wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a �moderate cultural
> Marxist and feminist.� Though he describes his stepfather as
> somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a �super-
> liberal, matriarchal upbringing,� which he says has �contributed
> to feminise me to a certain degree.�
>
> A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. �The
> female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
> the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of
> men in Europe,� he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
> isolation, saying that he recoils from the �destructive and
> suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual
> revolution) � In that setting, men are not men anymore, but
> metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
> purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist
> woman goddess.�

He sounds queer to me. The best pussy I ever had was from a
feminist.


Dakota

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On Fri 7/29/11 9:02, Gray Ghost wrote:
> Dakota<ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in
> news:VtGdnb8pJLm...@giganews.com:
>
>> On Thu 7/28/11 8:30, Code Pink wrote:
>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
>>> anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>>>
>>> Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
>>> blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them
>>> up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn�s bestselling

>>> America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the
>>> demise of �European races too self-absorbed to breed,� leading
>>> to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. �In their bizarre
>>> prioritization of �a woman�s right to choose,�� he argued,
>>> �feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
>>> days in a culture that doesn�t accord women the right to choose
>>> anything.�
>>>
>>> This neat rhetorical trick�an attack on feminism coupled with
>>> purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny�is
>>> repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it�s
>>> reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik�s
>>> 1,500-page manifesto, �2083: A European Declaration of
>>> Independence.� Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety

>>> and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,
>>> Breivik�s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is

>>> intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
>>> his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
>>> This was about sex even more than religion.
>>>
>>> Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
>>> Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
>>> instability has affected his own life. His father was a
>>> diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
>>> parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
>>> feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father
>>> wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a �moderate cultural
>>> Marxist and feminist.� Though he describes his stepfather as
>>> somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a �super-
>>> liberal, matriarchal upbringing,� which he says has �contributed
>>> to feminise me to a certain degree.�
>>>
>>> A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. �The

>>> female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
>>> the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of
>>> men in Europe,� he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
>>> isolation, saying that he recoils from the �destructive and

>>> suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual
>>> revolution) � In that setting, men are not men anymore, but

>>> metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
>>> purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist
>>> woman goddess.�

>>>
>>> Furious and alone, Breivik plugged into the international anti-
>>> jihadist, anti-immigrant right. One of the most notable things
>>> about his manifesto is its scant attention to Norwegian politics
>>> or authors. Most of those he quotes are American, Canadian, or
>>> English, including Steyn, Robert Bork, Rich Lowry, and Melanie
>>> Phillips. Rather than railing against Norwegian feminists, he
>>> attacks Betty Friedan and even the relatively obscure Ellen
>>> Willis. He�s deeply versed in American culture-war issues�at one

>>> point, he even rants about the so-called war on Christmas.
>>>
>>> Obviously, none of the writers he cites is responsible for his
>>> hideous crime. However, reading these authors pretty clearly
>>> helped him transmute his anger at women into a grandiose
>>> political ideology, and to recast himself as a latter-day
>>> crusader. He picked up the argument that selfish western women
>>> have allowed Muslims to outbreed them, and that only a
>>> restoration of patriarchy can save European culture. One of the
>>> books he references approvingly is Patrick Buchanan�s The Death
>>> of the West, which argues, �[T]he rise of feminism spells the
>>> death of the nation and the end of the West.�

>>>
>>> "His mad act was in the service of male superiority as well as
>>> Christian nationalism."
>>>
>>> The demographic theory behind such pronouncements is completely
>>> wrong. In fact, in modern, industrialized countries, feminism is
>>> correlated to higher birthrates. Catholic countries like Poland,
>>> Spain, and Italy have some of the lowest birthrates in Europe,
>>> because society does little to help women combine their
>>> aspirations for work and family, forcing them to choose. France
>>> and Scandinavia are much closer to replacement fertility, which
>>> is crucial to ensuring that pension systems don�t rest on the

>>> shoulders of a rapidly declining number of workers. As the Tory
>>> M.P. David Willetts wrote in a 2003 report, �The evidence from

>>> Italy, and indeed Spain, is that a traditional family structure
>>> now leads to very low birth rates.� Countries concerned about

>>> shrinking populations, he concluded, must find ways to help
>>> working mothers. �Feminism,� he wrote, �is the new natalism.�
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, the right clings to the idea that feminism is
>>> destroying Western societies from the inside, creating space for
>>> Islamism to take cover. This politics of emasculation gave shape
>>> to Breivik�s rage. Thus, while he pretends to abhor Muslim
>>> subjugation of women, he writes that the �fate of European

>>> civilisation depends on European men steadfastly resisting
>>> Politically Correct feminism.� When cultural conservatives seize
>>> control of Europe, he promises, �we will re-establish the
>>> patriarchal structures.� Eventually, women �conditioned� to this
>>> new order �will know her place in society.� His mad act was in

>>> the service of male superiority as well as Christian
>>> nationalism. Those two things, of course, almost always go
>>> together.
>>>
>>> Like The Daily Beast on Facebook and follow us on Twitter for
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>>>
>>> Michelle Goldberg is a senior contributing writer for
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>>> Times bestseller Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian
>>> Nationalism and The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the
>>> Future of the World, winner of the 2008 J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-
>>> Progress Award and the Ernesta Drinker Ballard Book Prize.
>>> Goldberg's work has appeared in Glamour, Rolling Stone, The
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>>>
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>>>
>> He wants to keep women in their place - subservient to men, barefoot,
>> and pregnant. Sounds like a fundy Christians to me.
>>
>
> Would you happen to have the brains and ability to compare the status of
> women in Christain countries versus Islamic countries?
>
> Or does the obvious elude you?
>
I was talking about fundy Christians, you moron. The difference in
status is the result of the abandoning of biblical teaching in modern
Christian nations. While sensible people applaud that change, Christian
fundamentalists like Brievik want to return to the bad old days.

Not all Islamic countries treat woman as badly as you have been taught
by Glenn Beck and his ilk.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3npuryo

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3wl2xfs

pyotr filipivich

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"Code Pink" <code...@sickos.usa> on Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:30:42 +0200
typed in misc.survivalism the following:

>http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
>anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>
>Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
>blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them
>up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn�s bestselling
>America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the
>demise of �European races too self-absorbed to breed,� leading
>to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. �In their bizarre
>prioritization of �a woman�s right to choose,�� he argued,
>�feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
>days in a culture that doesn�t accord women the right to choose
>anything.�
>
>This neat rhetorical trick�an attack on feminism coupled with
>purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny�is
>repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it�s
>reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik�s
>1,500-page manifesto, �2083: A European Declaration of
>Independence.� Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety
>and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,
>Breivik�s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is
>intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
>his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
>This was about sex even more than religion.

What seems missed in all the blame storming is the results. For
whatever reason Breivik came to believe that his only option was
lethal force against The Enemies.
The Society/culture/government finds itself unable to enforce it's
own mores on those who do not wish to assimilate. Modern post
Christian "Western Civilization" finds itself unable to defend the
values which created it, and seems actively to prosecute those who
would defend those values.
Along comes a Breivik, who recognizes that failure, and reaches
the conclusion that "direct action" is the only response. And the
chattering class searches for any scrap of an "issue" to explain away
his actions, without actually addressing what he actually did: to take
arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing end them?

tschus
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
People sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough
men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell.

de...@dudu.org

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Sounds like you are trying to at least partially justify mass murder.

>tschus
>pyotr

SaPeIsMa

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"Dakota" <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:wKmdndAPks7...@giganews.com...

> On Fri 7/29/11 9:02, Gray Ghost wrote:
>> Dakota<ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in
>> news:VtGdnb8pJLm...@giganews.com:
>>

>>> He wants to keep women in their place - subservient to men, barefoot,


>>> and pregnant. Sounds like a fundy Christians to me.
>>>
>>
>> Would you happen to have the brains and ability to compare the status of
>> women in Christain countries versus Islamic countries?
>>
>> Or does the obvious elude you?
>>
> I was talking about fundy Christians, you moron. The difference in status
> is the result of the abandoning of biblical teaching in modern Christian
> nations. While sensible people applaud that change, Christian
> fundamentalists like Brievik want to return to the bad old days.
>

Too bad for you that Brievik made no claims to bieng a Christian of any kind
That's just another fabrication of idiots on the left like you.

> Not all Islamic countries treat woman as badly as you have been taught by
> Glenn Beck and his ilk.
>


Amazing how lefty idiots are into projection big time
But that is one of the reasons they prove to be idiots

The Greaseman

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In article <5ev237d2m6utska7g...@4ax.com>

Gays *ARE* sociopathic nutjobs. Ask any policeman or EMT.


Tankfixer

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In article <wKmdndAPks7...@giganews.com>, - Dakota
ma...@NOSPAMmail.com spouted !
>
> On Fri 7/29/11 9:02, Gray Ghost wrote:
> > Dakota<ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in
> > news:VtGdnb8pJLm...@giganews.com:
> >
> >> On Thu 7/28/11 8:30, Code Pink wrote:
> >>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
> >>> anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
> >>>
> >>> Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
> >>> blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them
> >>> up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn?s bestselling

> >>> America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the
> >>> demise of ?European races too self-absorbed to breed,? leading
> >>> to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. ?In their bizarre
> >>> prioritization of ?a woman?s right to choose,?? he argued,
> >>> ?feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
> >>> days in a culture that doesn?t accord women the right to choose
> >>> anything.?
> >>>
> >>> This neat rhetorical trick?an attack on feminism coupled with
> >>> purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny?is
> >>> repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it?s
> >>> reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik?s
> >>> 1,500-page manifesto, ?2083: A European Declaration of
> >>> Independence.? Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety

> >>> and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,
> >>> Breivik?s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is

> >>> intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
> >>> his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
> >>> This was about sex even more than religion.
> >>>
> >>> Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
> >>> Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
> >>> instability has affected his own life. His father was a
> >>> diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
> >>> parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
> >>> feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father
> >>> wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a ?moderate cultural
> >>> Marxist and feminist.? Though he describes his stepfather as
> >>> somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a ?super-
> >>> liberal, matriarchal upbringing,? which he says has ?contributed
> >>> to feminise me to a certain degree.?
> >>>
> >>> A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. ?The

> >>> female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
> >>> the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of
> >>> men in Europe,? he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
> >>> isolation, saying that he recoils from the ?destructive and

> >>> suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual
> >>> revolution) ? In that setting, men are not men anymore, but

> >>> metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
> >>> purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist
> >>> woman goddess.?

> >>>
> >>> Furious and alone, Breivik plugged into the international anti-
> >>> jihadist, anti-immigrant right. One of the most notable things
> >>> about his manifesto is its scant attention to Norwegian politics
> >>> or authors. Most of those he quotes are American, Canadian, or
> >>> English, including Steyn, Robert Bork, Rich Lowry, and Melanie
> >>> Phillips. Rather than railing against Norwegian feminists, he
> >>> attacks Betty Friedan and even the relatively obscure Ellen
> >>> Willis. He?s deeply versed in American culture-war issues?at one

> >>> point, he even rants about the so-called war on Christmas.
> >>>
> >>> Obviously, none of the writers he cites is responsible for his
> >>> hideous crime. However, reading these authors pretty clearly
> >>> helped him transmute his anger at women into a grandiose
> >>> political ideology, and to recast himself as a latter-day
> >>> crusader. He picked up the argument that selfish western women
> >>> have allowed Muslims to outbreed them, and that only a
> >>> restoration of patriarchy can save European culture. One of the
> >>> books he references approvingly is Patrick Buchanan?s The Death
> >>> of the West, which argues, ?[T]he rise of feminism spells the
> >>> death of the nation and the end of the West.?

> >>>
> >>> "His mad act was in the service of male superiority as well as
> >>> Christian nationalism."
> >>>
> >>> The demographic theory behind such pronouncements is completely
> >>> wrong. In fact, in modern, industrialized countries, feminism is
> >>> correlated to higher birthrates. Catholic countries like Poland,
> >>> Spain, and Italy have some of the lowest birthrates in Europe,
> >>> because society does little to help women combine their
> >>> aspirations for work and family, forcing them to choose. France
> >>> and Scandinavia are much closer to replacement fertility, which
> >>> is crucial to ensuring that pension systems don?t rest on the

> >>> shoulders of a rapidly declining number of workers. As the Tory
> >>> M.P. David Willetts wrote in a 2003 report, ?The evidence from

> >>> Italy, and indeed Spain, is that a traditional family structure
> >>> now leads to very low birth rates.? Countries concerned about

> >>> shrinking populations, he concluded, must find ways to help
> >>> working mothers. ?Feminism,? he wrote, ?is the new natalism.?
> >>>
> >>> Nevertheless, the right clings to the idea that feminism is
> >>> destroying Western societies from the inside, creating space for
> >>> Islamism to take cover. This politics of emasculation gave shape
> >>> to Breivik?s rage. Thus, while he pretends to abhor Muslim
> >>> subjugation of women, he writes that the ?fate of European

> >>> civilisation depends on European men steadfastly resisting
> >>> Politically Correct feminism.? When cultural conservatives seize
> >>> control of Europe, he promises, ?we will re-establish the
> >>> patriarchal structures.? Eventually, women ?conditioned? to this
> >>> new order ?will know her place in society.? His mad act was in

If this fellow is some sort of christian fundimentalist then why didn't
he mention it more often in his manifesto ?

Gunner Asch

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Then by that example..husbands and wives are also sociopathic nutjobs.

Is that your followup claim?


>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Maxim 12: A soft answer turneth away wrath.
Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.

Gray Ghost

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Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in
news:wKmdndAPks7...@giganews.com:

> Not all Islamic countries treat woman as badly as you have been taught
> by Glenn Beck and his ilk.

I don't get my reports of barbaric behavior in Islamic countries from Glenn
Beck but from multiple news sources, many of them "mainstream".

Perhaps you recall the numerous reports of women being punished for being
raped?

Unless of course you are a fan of rape.

(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 17:25:33 +0200,
BIGOTED LOWLIFE, "BILL TAYLOR,"
(aka "Leroy Blue") <lero...@zoomcom.ca> wrote:


[ ... ]

> The best pussy I ever had was from a feminist.

The best I ever had was from a girl who was BOTH bisexual
AND a feminist. She ultimately married another guy (even though
she no doubt still is bisexual. The opposite-sex side prevailed.)

I wonder if the MOST assertive girls, sexually, tend to be
feminists?

I've always really LIKED feminists! This gives me *another*
reason to! :)

(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 18:39:19 -0500,
"SaPeIsMa" <Sape...@Hotmail.com> wrote:


> Amazing how...

...RIGHTARD...

> ...idiots are into projection big time. But that is one

(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:35:03 -0700,
Tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.c0m> wrote:

> If this fellow is some sort of christian fundimentalist then why
> didn't he mention it more often in his manifesto ?

There's nothing even REMOTELY Christian about that loon.

He's comparable to the most EXTREME of the RRR Cult
lowlifes that INFEST *American* society. The sort of criminal
who murdered Dr. Tiller.

See: http://www.ChrstianEgalitarian.com/Lie.html

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Response to an RCC-Cult ANTI-Choicer,
about the Martyred HERO, Dr. George Tiller

You know nothing of Dr. Tiller and his work, because you ignore the
facts. Dr. Tiller proved, in court, on more than one occasion, this his
work fully conformed to the laws of Kansas, a very conservative state.
Even when women begin to die, suffer sterility, maiming from the lack of
a late term abortion, or giving birth to grossly deformed babies, you'll
still ignore the facts. By the way, you and your "church" will protest
paying one cent of tax to care for the injured or dead women, or for the
costs of caring for a grossly deformed or handicapped baby during its
short lifetime. You'd rather the family be ruined to the point where
they're in poverty. And, you'll still refuse to pay any welfare costs
or costs of restoring the ruined family. That's the kind of person you
are, and the kind of people your "church" is.

Dr. Tiller was an actual Saint.

-- "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>, 8-26-10

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

��� Rest in Peace ���
��� George Richard Tiller, MD ���
��� A True American HERO! ���
��� August 8, 1941 � May 31, 2009 ���
��� Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com ���

"He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've
died otherwise, thousands who would've been made sterile
or gravely injured by childbirth. He knew his life was at grave
risk. Dr. Tiller was a true Saint."

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Republicans : Democrats :: Heartless : Spineless
Teabaggers = Clueless

"Birthers" = Mindless Loons
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 12:43:50 +0000 (UTC),
Gray Ghost <grey_ghost47...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:


>> Not all Islamic countries treat woman as badly as you have
>> been taught by Glenn Beck and his ilk.

> I don't get my reports of barbaric behavior in Islamic countries
> from Glenn Beck but from multiple news sources, many of them
> "mainstream".
>

> Perhaps you recall the numerous reports of women being pun-


> ished for being raped?
>
> Unless of course you are a fan of rape.

Just as Christianity in America (and to lesser degrees elsewhere) is
infested with hate-cults that are America's own version of the Taliban --
the RRR and LDS Cults -- *SO* is ISLAM infested with ITS own hate-
cults.


(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 03:47:19 +0200,
"The Greaseman" <doug....@warw.com> wrote:


> Gays *ARE* sociopathic nutjobs. Ask any policeman
> or EMT.

NO more than straights are.

All of the sexual orientations are merely TRIVIAL
variations of NORMALCY that people are BORN with.

http://www.Egalitarian.biz/Orientation-at-Birth.html

zardoz

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:43:43 -0700, Tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.c0m>
wrote:

On his original Facebook page he evinced no interest in Christianity
or Conservativism. The day after the massacre, a philosphy section was
added along with the labels "Christian" and "Conservative". None of
the authors listed in the book section of his FB page are particularly
concerned with either of these topics. At first, he only admitted to
making the video, according to the Daily Mail - not the manifesto. Let
us insist on hearing from the man himself rather than attempt to spin
a document that is most likely the product of intelligence agencies.

Tankfixer

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In article <6p2937lk6sd7r9pho...@4ax.com>, - zardoz a@b.c

Odd, how could his FB page be updated the day after the massacre when he
was already in custody....

Benny Fishhole

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 21:35:03 -0700, Tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.c0m>
wrote:

>If this fellow is some sort of christian fundimentalist then why didn't
>he mention it more often in his manifesto ?


He was just another coward liberal who couldn't turn the gun on
himself during his suicide spree. No news here, we've seen it all
before. Right out of the lib playbook.

(�`�.� Craig Chilton �.���) <http://www.TravelForPay.org>

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 00:04:00 -0500,
Benny Fishhole <be...@fakeaddress.edu> wrote:
> Tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.c0m> wrote:


>> If this fellow is some sort of christian fundimentalist then
>> why didn't he mention it more often in his manifesto?

He was not remotely a Christian.

See: http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com/Lie.html

> He was just another coward liberal who couldn't turn the gun on
> himself during his suicide spree. No news here, we've seen it all
> before. Right out of the lib playbook.

He was NOT a "liberal," you SUBMORON.

He was the WORST kind of NEOCON.

And a good reminder to society that Neocons SUCK, right along
with their greed, and their hate-agendas.

That's the ONLY good thing that can come from this tragedy!

Jason

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That killer had serious mental problems and was NOT a member of any
churches. They said on one of the news shows that he was an advocate for
socialism.


zardoz

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On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:07:42 -0700, Tankfixer <paul.c...@gmail.c0m>
wrote:

Yes, it was altered after he was detained and then the altered version
went into heavy media circulation. Google "Breivik Facebook altered".
I think the answer to who can only be whichever intelligence agencies
are involved.

Jerrold Dean Kuhn

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On 28 Jul 2011, "SaPeIsMa" <Sape...@Hotmail.com> posted some
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> "Dakota" <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message

> news:VtGdnb8pJLm...@giganews.com...


>> On Thu 7/28/11 8:30, Code Pink wrote:
>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
>>> anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>>>
>>> Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
>>> blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them

>>> up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn�s bestselling


>>> America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the

>>> demise of �European races too self-absorbed to breed,� leading


>>> to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. �In their bizarre
>>> prioritization of �a woman�s right to choose,�� he argued,

>>> �feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
>>> days in a culture that doesn�t accord women the right to choose
>>> anything.�
>>>
>>> This neat rhetorical trick�an attack on feminism coupled with
>>> purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny�is
>>> repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it�s


>>> reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik�s
>>> 1,500-page manifesto, �2083: A European Declaration of

>>> Independence.� Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety


>>> and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,

>>> Breivik�s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is


>>> intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
>>> his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
>>> This was about sex even more than religion.
>>>
>>> Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
>>> Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
>>> instability has affected his own life. His father was a
>>> diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
>>> parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
>>> feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father

>>> wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a �moderate cultural
>>> Marxist and feminist.� Though he describes his stepfather as
>>> somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a �super-
>>> liberal, matriarchal upbringing,� which he says has �contributed

>>> to feminise me to a certain degree.�
>>>
>>> A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. �The


>>> female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
>>> the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of

>>> men in Europe,� he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
>>> isolation, saying that he recoils from the �destructive and


>>> suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual

>>> revolution) � In that setting, men are not men anymore, but


>>> metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
>>> purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist

>>> woman goddess.�


>>>
>>> Furious and alone, Breivik plugged into the international anti-
>>> jihadist, anti-immigrant right. One of the most notable things
>>> about his manifesto is its scant attention to Norwegian politics
>>> or authors. Most of those he quotes are American, Canadian, or
>>> English, including Steyn, Robert Bork, Rich Lowry, and Melanie
>>> Phillips. Rather than railing against Norwegian feminists, he
>>> attacks Betty Friedan and even the relatively obscure Ellen

>>> Willis. He�s deeply versed in American culture-war issues�at one


>>> point, he even rants about the so-called war on Christmas.
>>>
>>> Obviously, none of the writers he cites is responsible for his
>>> hideous crime. However, reading these authors pretty clearly
>>> helped him transmute his anger at women into a grandiose
>>> political ideology, and to recast himself as a latter-day
>>> crusader. He picked up the argument that selfish western women
>>> have allowed Muslims to outbreed them, and that only a
>>> restoration of patriarchy can save European culture. One of the

>>> books he references approvingly is Patrick Buchanan�s The Death
>>> of the West, which argues, �[T]he rise of feminism spells the
>>> death of the nation and the end of the West.�


>>>
>>> "His mad act was in the service of male superiority as well as
>>> Christian nationalism."
>>>
>>> The demographic theory behind such pronouncements is completely
>>> wrong. In fact, in modern, industrialized countries, feminism is
>>> correlated to higher birthrates. Catholic countries like Poland,
>>> Spain, and Italy have some of the lowest birthrates in Europe,
>>> because society does little to help women combine their
>>> aspirations for work and family, forcing them to choose. France
>>> and Scandinavia are much closer to replacement fertility, which

>>> is crucial to ensuring that pension systems don�t rest on the


>>> shoulders of a rapidly declining number of workers. As the Tory

>>> M.P. David Willetts wrote in a 2003 report, �The evidence from


>>> Italy, and indeed Spain, is that a traditional family structure

>>> now leads to very low birth rates.� Countries concerned about


>>> shrinking populations, he concluded, must find ways to help

>>> working mothers. �Feminism,� he wrote, �is the new natalism.�
>>>

>>> Nevertheless, the right clings to the idea that feminism is
>>> destroying Western societies from the inside, creating space for
>>> Islamism to take cover. This politics of emasculation gave shape

>>> to Breivik�s rage. Thus, while he pretends to abhor Muslim
>>> subjugation of women, he writes that the �fate of European


>>> civilisation depends on European men steadfastly resisting

>>> Politically Correct feminism.� When cultural conservatives seize
>>> control of Europe, he promises, �we will re-establish the
>>> patriarchal structures.� Eventually, women �conditioned� to this

>>> new order �will know her place in society.� His mad act was in


>>> the service of male superiority as well as Christian
>>> nationalism. Those two things, of course, almost always go
>>> together.
>>>
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>>>
>>> Michelle Goldberg is a senior contributing writer for
>>> Newsweek/The Daily Beast. She is the author of the New York
>>> Times bestseller Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian
>>> Nationalism and The Means of Reproduction: Sex, Power and the
>>> Future of the World, winner of the 2008 J. Anthony Lukas Work-in-
>>> Progress Award and the Ernesta Drinker Ballard Book Prize.
>>> Goldberg's work has appeared in Glamour, Rolling Stone, The
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>> He wants to keep women in their place - subservient to men, barefoot,
>> and pregnant. Sounds like a fundy Christians to me.
>
>
>

> More like stupid bullshit from you and the author.

So email her and state your objections for the record. Personally, I
think she nailed it right on the head. Norway is one of those left-wing
cultures that spends too much time cooped up in the winter. The cabin
fever and alcohol goes to their heads resulting in men becoming women.
The only thing they haven't found yet is his stash of gay child porn.


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On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 02:21:25 +0000 (UTC),
Jerrold Dean Kuhn <jdk...@noemail.com> wrote:


> Norway is one of...

...the most SUPERB and egalitarian cultures on the planet!

If you believe otherwise, then either you obviously haven't
been there (and I *have* been, many times, so have exper-
inced it first-hand), or you were wearing blinders and earplugs
the entire time you were there.

You really ARE one very IGNORANT lowlife, aren't you?


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Dakota

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On Sun 7/31/11 21:21, Jerrold Dean Kuhn wrote:
> On 28 Jul 2011, "SaPeIsMa"<Sape...@Hotmail.com> posted some
> news:6NWdnaTCQ6lTN6zT...@bright.net:
>
>> "Dakota"<ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:VtGdnb8pJLm...@giganews.com...
>>> On Thu 7/28/11 8:30, Code Pink wrote:
>>>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
>>>> anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>>>>
>>>> Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
>>>> blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them
>>>> up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn�s bestselling

>>>> America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the
>>>> demise of �European races too self-absorbed to breed,� leading
>>>> to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. �In their bizarre
>>>> prioritization of �a woman�s right to choose,�� he argued,
>>>> �feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
>>>> days in a culture that doesn�t accord women the right to choose
>>>> anything.�
>>>>
>>>> This neat rhetorical trick�an attack on feminism coupled with
>>>> purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny�is
>>>> repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it�s
>>>> reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik�s
>>>> 1,500-page manifesto, �2083: A European Declaration of
>>>> Independence.� Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety

>>>> and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,
>>>> Breivik�s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is

>>>> intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
>>>> his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
>>>> This was about sex even more than religion.
>>>>
>>>> Breivik describes himself as a disaffected product of the
>>>> Norwegian liberal political elite, furious at the way sexual
>>>> instability has affected his own life. His father was a
>>>> diplomat, stationed first in London and then in Paris. His
>>>> parents divorced when he was a year old, after which his
>>>> feminist mother married a Norwegian army captain, and his father
>>>> wed a fellow diplomat who Breivik calls a �moderate cultural
>>>> Marxist and feminist.� Though he describes his stepfather as
>>>> somewhat conservative, he nevertheless complains of a �super-
>>>> liberal, matriarchal upbringing,� which he says has �contributed
>>>> to feminise me to a certain degree.�
>>>>
>>>> A terror of feminization haunts his bizarre document. �The

>>>> female manipulation of males has been institutionalised during
>>>> the last decades and is a partial cause of the feminisation of
>>>> men in Europe,� he writes. He blames empowered women for his own
>>>> isolation, saying that he recoils from the �destructive and

>>>> suicidal Sex and the City lifestyle (modern feminism, sexual
>>>> revolution) � In that setting, men are not men anymore, but

>>>> metro sexual and emotional beings that are there to serve the
>>>> purpose as a never-criticising soul mate to the new age feminist
>>>> woman goddess.�

>>>>
>>>> Furious and alone, Breivik plugged into the international anti-
>>>> jihadist, anti-immigrant right. One of the most notable things
>>>> about his manifesto is its scant attention to Norwegian politics
>>>> or authors. Most of those he quotes are American, Canadian, or
>>>> English, including Steyn, Robert Bork, Rich Lowry, and Melanie
>>>> Phillips. Rather than railing against Norwegian feminists, he
>>>> attacks Betty Friedan and even the relatively obscure Ellen
>>>> Willis. He�s deeply versed in American culture-war issues�at one

>>>> point, he even rants about the so-called war on Christmas.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, none of the writers he cites is responsible for his
>>>> hideous crime. However, reading these authors pretty clearly
>>>> helped him transmute his anger at women into a grandiose
>>>> political ideology, and to recast himself as a latter-day
>>>> crusader. He picked up the argument that selfish western women
>>>> have allowed Muslims to outbreed them, and that only a
>>>> restoration of patriarchy can save European culture. One of the
>>>> books he references approvingly is Patrick Buchanan�s The Death
>>>> of the West, which argues, �[T]he rise of feminism spells the
>>>> death of the nation and the end of the West.�

>>>>
>>>> "His mad act was in the service of male superiority as well as
>>>> Christian nationalism."
>>>>
>>>> The demographic theory behind such pronouncements is completely
>>>> wrong. In fact, in modern, industrialized countries, feminism is
>>>> correlated to higher birthrates. Catholic countries like Poland,
>>>> Spain, and Italy have some of the lowest birthrates in Europe,
>>>> because society does little to help women combine their
>>>> aspirations for work and family, forcing them to choose. France
>>>> and Scandinavia are much closer to replacement fertility, which
>>>> is crucial to ensuring that pension systems don�t rest on the

>>>> shoulders of a rapidly declining number of workers. As the Tory
>>>> M.P. David Willetts wrote in a 2003 report, �The evidence from

>>>> Italy, and indeed Spain, is that a traditional family structure
>>>> now leads to very low birth rates.� Countries concerned about

>>>> shrinking populations, he concluded, must find ways to help
>>>> working mothers. �Feminism,� he wrote, �is the new natalism.�
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, the right clings to the idea that feminism is
>>>> destroying Western societies from the inside, creating space for
>>>> Islamism to take cover. This politics of emasculation gave shape
>>>> to Breivik�s rage. Thus, while he pretends to abhor Muslim
>>>> subjugation of women, he writes that the �fate of European

>>>> civilisation depends on European men steadfastly resisting
>>>> Politically Correct feminism.� When cultural conservatives seize
>>>> control of Europe, he promises, �we will re-establish the
>>>> patriarchal structures.� Eventually, women �conditioned� to this
>>>> new order �will know her place in society.� His mad act was in
That's a new one. Cabin fever makes people gay. Got a cite or did you
make it up on the spot?

Many Norwegians enjoy cross country skiing and other outdoor activities
in the wintertime. Year round, Norwegians are more active than
Americans. America's obesity rate is 30.6%. Norway's is 8.3.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2uegskv

http://preview.tinyurl.com/27yusx

Strabo

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On 7/29/2011 3:02 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> "Code Pink"<code...@sickos.usa> on Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:30:42 +0200
> typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/24/norway-massacre-
>> anders-breivik-s-deadly-attack-fueled-by-hatred-of-women.html
>>
>> Conservatives worried about the Islamization of Europe often
>> blame feminism for weakening Western societies and opening them
>> up to a Muslim demographic invasion. Mark Steyn�s bestselling

>> America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It predicted the
>> demise of �European races too self-absorbed to breed,� leading
>> to the transformation of Europe into Eurabia. �In their bizarre
>> prioritization of �a woman�s right to choose,�� he argued,
>> �feminists have helped ensure that European women will end their
>> days in a culture that doesn�t accord women the right to choose
>> anything.�
>>
>> This neat rhetorical trick�an attack on feminism coupled with
>> purported concern about Muslim fundamentalist misogyny�is
>> repeated again and again in Islamophobic literature. Now it�s
>> reached its apogee in mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik�s
>> 1,500-page manifesto, �2083: A European Declaration of
>> Independence.� Rarely has the connection between sexual anxiety

>> and right-wing nationalism been made quite so clear. Indeed,
>> Breivik�s hatred of women rivals his hatred of Islam, and is

>> intimately linked to it. Some reports have suggested that during
>> his rampage on Utoya, he targeted the most beautiful girl first.
>> This was about sex even more than religion.
>
> What seems missed in all the blame storming is the results. For
> whatever reason Breivik came to believe that his only option was
> lethal force against The Enemies.
> The Society/culture/government finds itself unable to enforce it's
> own mores on those who do not wish to assimilate. Modern post
> Christian "Western Civilization" finds itself unable to defend the
> values which created it, and seems actively to prosecute those who
> would defend those values.
> Along comes a Breivik, who recognizes that failure, and reaches
> the conclusion that "direct action" is the only response. And the
> chattering class searches for any scrap of an "issue" to explain away
> his actions, without actually addressing what he actually did: to take
> arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing end them?
>

I remind you of post-WWI Europe. Thousands of homeless and ex-military
roamed Germany, France, Spain and Italy, as armies of thieves and miscreants
and aliens tramped borders and lives. Law was inept. No nation was strong
enough to control the chaos.

Meanwhile the good times rolled in the cities where everything was for
sale and
society's restraints gave way to bawdy and sexually permissive attitudes
and
practices. Ten years of this and the stage was set for social reformers
like Mussolini,
Franco, Vichy and Hitler, and, the Great Depression. Of course, they
had a little
help from the international bankers.

Anarchists, union agitators, the disenchanted and malefactors typically
bend and break
social codes and sexual roles while attacking the foundation of cultural
mores.
Thus atheism, feminism, homosexualism, beastiality, pederasty, and any
other perversion
imaginable becomes the modus operandi of those demanding "change" and
"social
justice." Hitler was a national socialist. Stalin was a national
socialist. Mussolini
was a national socialist. And the people welcomed them and invited them
to restore
order. They always do.

We see today some of the symptoms.

Breivik, himself a product of modern disaffection, is a nationalist and
a social
reformer. As he is also a sociopath, it was easy for him to take action
against
the libertine elite. Means, motive and opportunity, he had them all.

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