Calves
D. Tales
My calves are about average, but I'd like to beef them up
quickly. I can spend whatever time I need to in the gym, just
need to know what I'm doing. What's the best way to power-blast
these bitches into massive calves? Suggestions on routines,
technique, and supplements would be extra helpful.
D
m...@too.com
MAYBE = 170-175 lbs.
>My calves are about average, but I'd like to beef them up
>quickly. I can spend whatever time I need to in the gym, just
>need to know what I'm doing. What's the best way to power-blast
>these bitches into massive calves? Suggestions on routines,
>technique, and supplements would be extra helpful.
Summer's approaching, time for the beach, eh? In addition to the
other work you're doing (squats, deadlifts, etc) don't forget to use a
lower-calf (soleus muscle) machine.
Lyle McDonald
To be done twice per week (i.e. Mon/Thu or Mon/Fri)
A straight legged calf exercise (i.e. leg press calf raise, standing
calf raise): warmups and then 5 sets of 5 repetitions done on a 2 second
up, 1 second squeeze, 2-3 second down, 1 second dead pause tempo. So,
starting from a dead stop on every repetition, take 2 seconds to reach
the top, squeeze for 1 second at the top, take 2-3 seconds down, pause a
full second at the bottom. Take 3 minutes between sets nd when you get
all 5 sets of 5, add weight at the next workout.
A bent knee calf exercise (seated calf raise: 3 sets of 12-15 done on a
2 second up, 2 second down tempo. Dead pause on every rep. 1-1.5
minutes rest. When you get all 3 sets of 15, raise weight.
Enjoy.
Lyle
Jake
185 at 6'1" isn't that skinny. In fact, it can even be fat, depending
on your bf%. My dad is 6'0" 180 lbs and he looks pregnant.
You didn't mention nutrition. If you want your calves to be bigger,
you have to eat a lot. In terms of exercises, squats are of utmost
importance. just a few things for calves-
jumping shrugs, shrugs up on toes, going on your toes at the end of a
squat, going on your toes at the end of a deadlift, jumping squats,
standing calf raise, sitting calf raise, calf raise on leg press.
Whateva. I personally haven't had the best of luck with my calves,
and I too want them to grow more. BUT it is much more likely that you
will see a significant size increase if you eat like a bear. So get
eatin and save your money for food rather than that big bottle of
pro-max powerblast2000
Jake
bc
Ouch.
- bc
geek_girl
> D. Tales wrote:
>
>> So I'm a classic ectomorph, roughly 6'1" and MAYBE 185 pounds.
>> My calves are about average, but I'd like to beef them up
>> quickly. I can spend whatever time I need to in the gym, just
>> need to know what I'm doing. What's the best way to power-blast
>> these bitches into massive calves? Suggestions on routines,
>> technique, and supplements would be extra helpful.
>
> To be done twice per week (i.e. Mon/Thu or Mon/Fri)
>
> A straight legged calf exercise (i.e. leg press calf raise, standing
> calf raise): warmups and then 5 sets of 5 repetitions done on a 2
> second up, 1 second squeeze, 2-3 second down, 1 second dead pause
> tempo. So, starting from a dead stop on every repetition, take 2
> seconds to reach the top, squeeze for 1 second at the top, take 2-3
> seconds down, pause a full second at the bottom.
Is it normal to get nasty calf cramps when you hold and squeeze at the
top a little too long (say 2 or 3 seconds instead of 1), or is that just
me being a mutant again?
DRS
20040321120...@netnews.worldnet.att.net
[...]
> Is it normal to get nasty calf cramps when you hold and squeeze at the
> top a little too long (say 2 or 3 seconds instead of 1), or is that
> just me being a mutant again?
Some common causes for cramps include:
- cold
- overuse
- dehydration
- lack of potassium
- lack of quinine
- being a mutant.
HTH
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geek_girl
> geek_girl <sjau...@FOADSPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message
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>
> [...]
>
>> Is it normal to get nasty calf cramps when you hold and squeeze at
>> the top a little too long (say 2 or 3 seconds instead of 1), or is
>> that just me being a mutant again?
>
> Some common causes for cramps include:
>
> - being a mutant.
References please.
> HTH
>
DRS
American Journal of 'Cause I Said So, Jan, 1999, page 666: "The Effects of
I'm Right on Your Being Wrong: A Meta Analysis"
geek_girl
> geek_girl <sjau...@FOADSPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message
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>> In <c3klp1$gur$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz> DRS wrote:
>>> geek_girl <sjau...@FOADSPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message
>>> 20040321120...@netnews.worldnet.att.net
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Is it normal to get nasty calf cramps when you hold and squeeze at
>>>> the top a little too long (say 2 or 3 seconds instead of 1), or is
>>>> that just me being a mutant again?
>>>
>>> Some common causes for cramps include:
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> - being a mutant.
>>
>> References please.
>
> American Journal of 'Cause I Said So, Jan, 1999, page 666: "The
> Effects of I'm Right on Your Being Wrong: A Meta Analysis"
1999? Don't you have anything more recent?
DRS
It's never been refuted. You can't improve on perfection.
Unknown
<d...@AlphaOmega2004sucksdonkeydicks.ihug.com.au> wrote:
>geek_girl <sjau...@FOADSPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message
>20040321121...@netnews.worldnet.att.net
>> In <c3klp1$gur$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz> DRS wrote:
>>> geek_girl <sjau...@FOADSPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message
>>> 20040321120...@netnews.worldnet.att.net
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Is it normal to get nasty calf cramps when you hold and squeeze at
>>>> the top a little too long (say 2 or 3 seconds instead of 1), or is
>>>> that just me being a mutant again?
>>>
>>> Some common causes for cramps include:
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> - being a mutant.
>>
>> References please.
>
>American Journal of 'Cause I Said So, Jan, 1999, page 666: "The Effects of
>I'm Right on Your Being Wrong: A Meta Analysis"
You forgot to quote Cohen.
Proton Soup
DZ
> geek_girl <sjau...@FOADSPAMMERSatt.net> wrote
>>>> [...]
>>>>> - being a mutant.
>>>> References please.
>>>
>>> American Journal of 'Cause I Said So, Jan, 1999, page 666: "The
>>> Effects of I'm Right on Your Being Wrong: A Meta Analysis"
>>
>> 1999? Don't you have anything more recent?
>
> It's never been refuted. You can't improve on perfection.
Did you take into account what's known by google
as "estimation of file-drawer effects" ?
Meta-analysis is tricky, especially when "I'm Being Wrong" part is
under-reported ;)
DZ
Jay
What are you doing now?
D. Tales
news:43cba130.04032...@posting.google.com:
Thanks Jake...I'm actually quite skinny, and I think the weight
is because my body fat % is very low. I'm not looking to
bodybuild from an overall perspective, just build up certain
areas that I think would make a big difference in my appearance
(and in turn, my own satisfaction with my build). Looking at my
body, it seems I would see dramatic differences by building up
specifically my chest, calves, and arms.
D
D. Tales
news:%6p7c.1026$Br4...@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com:
All I've tried so far is about once a week doing standing calf
raises with the squat machine. I use the 2-inch block to put my
toes on, and push roughly 190-200 pounds to failure. I guess
it'd also be helpful to mention that I am 23, therefore
completely set as far as my natural body proportions.
D. Tales
news:1a7r50pdpmtnpngpl...@4ax.com:
MAYBE as in I don't have a scale but I last weighed in at 180 a
few pounds ago.
D
D. Tales
news:105rga5...@corp.supernews.com:
Very helpful...I'll do it! Thanks.
D
MJL
<lyl...@grandecomIMRETARDED.net> wrote:
Which will all be, in the end, fairly useless. The calves are
extremely difficult to induce hypertrophy in. They are, however,
pretty easy to strengthen.
Lyle McDonald
a. difficult is not the same as impossible.
b. most people train calves like 'tards.
c. see "self fulfilling prophecy".
d. try it for 6-8 weeks while eating and training sufficiently to gain
overall bodymass, lemme know what happens.
Lyle
D. Tales
Lucas Buck
It's only abnormal if abnormal symptoms develop (e.g. freakishly ginormous legs)
Jay
those are good, unless the load is insufficient. Once per week? Step up
your frequency. If you are not doing any explosive lifts, power cleans from
hang or power snatches, start. Do you deadlift? you better.
For what it is worth, The best calves I see are on those who seem to place
no emphasis on them. The combination of steadily increasing explosive
lifts, heavy deadlifts, ever increasing calf raises, done with a fair amount
of frequency should get you some cows.
Kevin J
Best calves that I see _consistently_ is on sport taekwondoists.
Especially in proportion to the rest of their bodies.
--
kj
rick++
Look at those Tour of France guys.
Unknown
The most freaky calves I've seen are on some women. It's gotten me to
wondering if it has anything to do with non-quad dominant running.
Proton Soup
MJL
<lyl...@grandecomIMRETARDED.net> wrote:
My calves measure roughly the same size at 160 lbs as they did when I
was jacked up and over 200. During my growth phases I tried several
different methods to induce hypertrophy and all were essentially
useless. I tried a "slow" method like the one you describe. I tried
low volume and I tried high volume. I tried light, medium, heavy and
extremely heavy weight. At best I got 1/4 inch out of all of it.
I could just have a very high % of fast twitch fibers because I do
have inordinately strong calves.
Tundra Wookie
"Lyle McDonald" <lyl...@grandecomIMRETARDED.net> wrote in message
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and amusement, I do a similar routine but I do each set with different
foot placement, hip width, close and wide. Since my calves are bigger
than my arms, I wish this approach worked on tris and bis.
--TW You know your legs are big enough when you don't shave them and the
hair doesn't grow back.
Bill Jerdee
reason that this rep scheme would be better than, say, 2x15 for both?
Lyle McDonald
> Why 5x5 for straight-legged, but 3x12 for seated? Is there some
> reason that this rep scheme would be better than, say, 2x15 for both?
yes.
Lyle
Lyle McDonald
>>Best calves that I see _consistently_ is on sport taekwondoists.
>>Especially in proportion to the rest of their bodies.
>
>
> The most freaky calves I've seen are on some women. It's gotten me to
> wondering if it has anything to do with non-quad dominant running.
My guess: high heels.
Lyle
elzinator
>MJL wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:22:28 -0600, Lyle McDonald
>> <lyl...@grandecomIMRETARDED.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>D. Tales wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>So I'm a classic ectomorph, roughly 6'1" and MAYBE 185 pounds.
>>>>My calves are about average, but I'd like to beef them up
>>>>quickly. I can spend whatever time I need to in the gym, just
>>>>need to know what I'm doing. What's the best way to power-blast
>>>>these bitches into massive calves? Suggestions on routines,
>>>>technique, and supplements would be extra helpful.
>>>
>>>To be done twice per week (i.e. Mon/Thu or Mon/Fri)
>>>
>>>A straight legged calf exercise (i.e. leg press calf raise, standing
>>>calf raise): warmups and then 5 sets of 5 repetitions done on a 2 second
>>>up, 1 second squeeze, 2-3 second down, 1 second dead pause tempo. So,
>>>starting from a dead stop on every repetition, take 2 seconds to reach
>>>the top, squeeze for 1 second at the top, take 2-3 seconds down, pause a
>>>full second at the bottom. Take 3 minutes between sets nd when you get
>>>all 5 sets of 5, add weight at the next workout.
>>>
>>>A bent knee calf exercise (seated calf raise: 3 sets of 12-15 done on a
>>>2 second up, 2 second down tempo. Dead pause on every rep. 1-1.5
>>>minutes rest. When you get all 3 sets of 15, raise weight.
>>>
>>
>> extremely difficult to induce hypertrophy in. They are, however,
>> pretty easy to strengthen.
>
>a. difficult is not the same as impossible.
>b. most people train calves like 'tards.
>c. see "self fulfilling prophecy".
>d. try it for 6-8 weeks while eating and training sufficiently to gain
>overall bodymass, lemme know what happens.
Reminds me of something Glass said during his seminar. Someone asked
him about fiber type and hypertrophy signaling and if he used soleus
muscle for any of his studies. He laughed and said that while many
like to use the soleus of rats/mice, he stays away from soleus muscle.
The composition of the murine soleus is not the same as in humans, and
"Besides, the soleus is just weird; its a really weird muscle."
Beelzibub
The human in us owes fealty to humanity. But the wolf in us acknowledges no master.
Sweet Guy
years with this exercise. you will definitely work those calve muscles
doing this.
sweet guy
"D. Tales" <no...@chance.com> wrote in message
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> So I'm a classic ectomorph, roughly 6'1" and MAYBE 185 pounds.
> My calves are about average, but I'd like to beef them up
> quickly. I can spend whatever time I need to in the gym, just
> need to know what I'm doing. What's the best way to power-blast
> these bitches into massive calves? Suggestions on routines,
> technique, and supplements would be extra helpful.
>
> D