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Steve Hartig

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Jun 24, 2015, 9:43:16 PM6/24/15
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Hello all,

My name is Steve Hartig.  I used to come to the Makerspace a lot back when it was still on Chase Ave and a few times since the move.  Anyway, a couple associates and I started a 3D scanning company a few months ago.  We are the US distributor for SMARTTECH 3D, a manufacturer of industrial scanning systems.  This is our website and our Facebook page (we have the most content on our Facebook link).

I'm not here to advertise - just trying to give you guys some background.  I would like to come to the space some evening and work on some scanning projects for people who need high-quality data.  No charge, unless you have some sort of commercial end-use in mind.  The sweet spot for my machine is objects that are between the size of a wine bottle and a smart car.  These projects would be more manufacturing-related as opposed to novelty things (such as scanning people).  They might be things like:
  • You are a gearhead and have done some awesome bodywork or a clay mockup for some body panels. You want a CAD surface of it so you can cut a mold with a CNC and lay some carbon fiber.
  • You have done some custom tube bending and you really like the result.  You want some CAD so you can get similar pieces recreated. 
  • You want to make some kind of new part to bolt up to another existing part.  The existing part has features with no definite edges, so it's hard to take measurements.  You want a model that you can bring into a CAD package to design around. Ex: Making a hood scoop.
  • You have some well-defined bolt holes in relation to some other bolt holes, but it's hard for you to measure that relation to make a part that can fit to them. Ex: Mounting locations for a strut brace.
  • You built something out of foam or wood by hand and want to duplicate it.  Ex: A guitar body.
  • You have a big thing that you want to turn into a small thing. Ex: Turning a hand carving into a 3D printed necklace.
I guess most of those suggestions are automotive related because those are the applications I find very interesting.  I would also love to help out things that are art-related, but I don't have a lot of experience in that area to make suggestions.

Let me know if anyone has any interesting projects that I could help out on!

Best Regards,

Steve Hartig
CEO, Into3D LLC

Have Blue

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Jun 25, 2015, 12:25:08 AM6/25/15
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What sort of accuracy/precision can your equipment scan to?  I happen to have an aircraft aileron to scan that I wouldn't mind comparing to what we can get with a Faro scanner...
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Steve Hartig

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Jun 25, 2015, 3:58:44 AM6/25/15
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Thanks for the response. Which Faro scanner do you have in mind? If it's an arm, the biggest difference will be that the encoders in the Faro arm tend to produce a lot of noise. I used one extensively in my last position and found that it was great for scanning featureless items such as tubes, but the data could be ugly depending on operator skill, temperature, etc. The single-scan accuracy on the system we have in house is rated at 60 microns. The higest-end system we carry can exceed the accuracy of conventional CMM machines in certain configurations. Pardon the jargon if you do not have a manufacturing background.

I'd enjoy demonstrating a scan on that aileron (sp?) soon. I am not sure how your schedule is laid-out, but my weekend is wide open if someone wanted to have me come in. Feel free to coordinate via email with me.

Have Blue

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Jun 25, 2015, 10:33:46 PM6/25/15
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Hi Steve,

I'm not sure of the Faro model offhand, but it was originally a CMM
probe arm that was later upgraded with a laser scanner head. My friend
and I have used it to scan a few other ailerons (it is normally used for
'day job' purposes), and we've been very happy with the resolution - no
noise in the output, and the thing will even pick up the thickness of a
coat of paint. Not sure how much of that is the arm or the software.

Anyway, my weekend is wide open as well - I was going to respond
directly, but I was hoping I could maybe spark a few other "me too"
responses, as I know there's other folks who are interested in 3D
scanning and would probably like to see the system.

- Michael

Steve Hartig

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Jun 25, 2015, 11:02:59 PM6/25/15
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Sounds like a Faro Edge! Is that the blue or red laser on there?

What do you think about meeting at the space at around 10AM on Saturday? I'll bring my scanner and you can bring your airfoil.  Do you have a Facebook or something so I know who I am looking for? :)

-Steve

Shane T.

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Jun 26, 2015, 1:26:13 AM6/26/15
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Crap. I have a legitimate use for scanning my lower leg, but it could potentially lead to a commercial use situation (highly doubtful, but the plan is there).

Any chance you'd take a chance on me? Couldn't be this weekend, but maybe sometime next week....

Have Blue

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Jun 26, 2015, 5:32:09 PM6/26/15
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I could bring the aileron next week instead if that fits your schedule better, Shane - wouldn't want you to miss out!  Scanning the aileron is technically for a commercial application, though I'm purely a volunteer on the project not making any money, and we already have scan data that we're using, so my interest is more comparative than trying to get a free scan.  If the system gives good output, we may want to have you do a proper scan-for-hire, Steve.

At any rate, I'd like to learn more about the system capabilities, hardware cost, etc.

Steve Hartig

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Jun 26, 2015, 5:56:18 PM6/26/15
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Shane - the best way to scan a body part is to fill up a bucket with silicone and stick the body part into the bucket. Then pour plaster of Paris into the cavity that is created when you remove the body part. Scan the plaster of Paris. If you do it any other way you tend to get minute deviations from small movements that people don't notice they are doing.

Let's scan that leg!

Michael - I am still interested in doing the aileron scan. We can even do a scan to scan 3d comparison using my Geomagic software, if the aviation company is willing to release their data. In fact, I would love to do a demo at their premises if any of their engineers are interested. If you want to get into scanning full-size aircraft parts, my structured light scanners will cover large flat areas very quickly. You can find the specifications for all the scanners we carry at www.SmartTech3d.com. May I ask which company this is for?

Have Blue

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Jun 26, 2015, 6:05:24 PM6/26/15
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Sure, we could certainly have you look at the scan data we have so far,
and I'd love to chat more about it - is there a number I can give you a
call at?

Drop me an email directly - have...@haveblue.org

- Michael

Shane T.

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Jun 27, 2015, 4:16:48 AM6/27/15
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Uh, anyone want to help me cast my leg? I'll shave!

Have Blue

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Jun 27, 2015, 7:49:04 PM6/27/15
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Can't we have a "shave Shane's leg" party?  No?  :-)

Steve showed me the scanning system today, and it's a pretty cool setup.  It's a structured light scanner - all the internal components are off-the-shelf, and it's all very clever in operation.  As the US distributor, I think he'll do quite well!

Given how it operates, doing a leg casting will definitely be the way to go, unless you can hold perfectly still with a bunch of little target dots covering your leg, and a healthy application of aerosol foot powder to maximize the scanability of your lower limb  :-)  From what I've read, making an alginate mold is the way to go, and this is a suitable moldmaking material:  http://www.smooth-on.com/Life-Casting-Alja-/c3_1402/index.html

kr...@shining3d.com

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Dec 25, 2015, 1:31:23 AM12/25/15
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Hello Steve,
I am a worker from Shining 3D in China. I wonder if you have any intention for distributing 3D scanner of other brands? If so, respond me right  here or mail by kr...@shining3D.com. 
Looking forward to your reply!

在 2015年6月25日星期四 UTC+8上午9:43:16,Steve Hartig写道:

Joseph Rieland

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Dec 25, 2015, 11:20:33 AM12/25/15
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This is something I would be really interested in! I have a number of things I could use this for! Please let me know when you will be at the space! I have a number of industrial machine bases that I would like replicated and possibly shrunk down to be able to be used for table bases. 

Take Care
Joe

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