Discussion/input request: Drill press locations 2: Electric Switcheroo

[David Ortiz-Grob]

As described in the another thread the two drill presses we have seem to be poorly suited to their current locations. The larger green drill press which is currently in the woodshop is more powerful and has a lower gear ratio than the gray press that is in the metal shop. Both of these make it much more suitable to use on metals than the faster, smaller gray press. As a result, most drilling of metal happens in the woodshop which leads to oil and metal chips being scattered about and can contaminate wooden projects when people like me do un-excellent things like not clean up well. even with good cleanup, cutting oil can creep into the vice and mess up expensive pieces of wood.

Unless anyone has any objections, I would like to do something about this. Some options on how to fix this:

1) Switch the location of the drill presses - easiest solution in my mind but may limit access to "good" press for some users

2) Move green press to metal shop and buy a new press for the woodshop (or vice versa) - good option but it involves fapping for $$ and then what do we do with the gray press?

3) Make the green press wood only and set up the bridgeport mill for metal drilling - highest quality end result but has is the most involved. May or may not be OK with the owner of the mill, would require removing the riser on the mill which is itself a big undertaking (but iirc was proposed once before by the owner). May cause conflict with the MIG welder for use of 3 phase power outlet. OTOH, it has an XY table for precision locating of holes and as much power as you could ever ask for. Kinda big and dangerous for beginners though. 

4) Move the green drill press and belt sander to mixed use area where they can both be used for both metal and wood without contaminating wood projects with chips - Simple solution but it doesn't solve the cutting oil issue.

I'd love to hear what you all think. 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Ortiz-Grob <david.or...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: {LVL1} Wood shop
To: lv...@googlegroups.com

I am the dick in question. It is 100% my fault and I apologize. I installed the vice and have been using the green drill press in the wood shop and cutting oil to make parts for my go kart for some time and have let it get pretty gross. 

That said, as other people have noted, the green press is much better suited to drilling metal (in both power and speed) than the one in the metal shop. I would be completely on board with doing a shuffle to get the tools where they can be used best. Maybe that means swapping the drill presses, maybe something else can be cooked up. 

Again, my bad. Obviously I need to reread the book Danielle mentions every tuesday. 

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Terry Lee <terryle...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Patrick - That drill press has been in the wood shop since I have been involved at lvl1.

I believe that there is a drill press in the metal shop..but this one has a slower speed for metal and people have been using it for that purpose..

I agree that this is a problem..especially since no attempt was made at cleaning the work space.

On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 12:01:24 PM UTC-4, Patrick McCarthy wrote:

The image that showed the offending machine is attached.
Although I understand that
1. using oil on a wood shop tool is a BAD THING (Because no matter HOW well you clean, a wee little is going to remain in some crevice, just waiting for a nice piece of cherry wood to be placed near it.
2. Metal shavings are a tool used by "Murphy" to enforce his law upon all engineers

What I don't get is...
Isn't that the METAL SHOP Drill press? (including the metal vice that would scratch the heck out of any wood placed within?)
So the questions expand a bit more to WHO moved that drill press into the wood shop? (Since it was already hopelessly rendered unfit by 1 and 2 above?)


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-----Original Message-----
From: 'Lockadoc' via LVL1 - Louisville's Hackerspace [mailto:lv...@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 6:51 PM
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Subject: EXT: {LVL1} Wood shop

Please people WOODSHOP , means that is where people make wood projects.
We have a metal shop for metal projects.

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[Greg Miller]

A shared use press wouldn't work well at all. Woodwork would be
contaminated with oil, and metalwork would be contaminated with
sawdust. It'd take an unreasonable amount of cleaning to switch between
the two.