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Mark Barrett

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Aug 14, 2017, 4:22:22 PM8/14/17
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Do we know any experts on Blockchain ? 

Clive Menzies

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Aug 14, 2017, 4:26:26 PM8/14/17
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Hi Mark

Not expert but it's something we've been exploring.

The video at the end of this post gives an introduction. It's real value is in creating circles of trust (money is only one application), records, registers, transactions - the blockchain and mutual distributed ledgers could be the way to decentralise power.

http://www.freecriticalthinking.org/daily-pickings/2258-managed-decline

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Clive


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Mark Barrett

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On 14 August 2017 at 21:26, Clive Menzies <cl...@clivemenzies.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Mark

Not expert but it's something we've been exploring.

The video at the end of this post gives an introduction. It's real value is in creating circles of trust (money is only one application), records, registers, transactions - the blockchain and mutual distributed ledgers could be the way to decentralise power.

http://www.freecriticalthinking.org/daily-pickings/2258-managed-decline

Regards

Clive


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Mark Barrett

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Aug 14, 2017, 4:35:28 PM8/14/17
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On 14 August 2017 at 21:34, Ann Narkeh <annn...@gmail.com> wrote:
Max Keiser is/was an ally, last time I checked. Him and Stacy Herbert joined us at Occupy Democracy Tarpaulin revolution and at Occupy Murdoch week. - if I remember correctly, he was also at OWS (and OL?).

If you can't reach him, you could try to find the Love Hacktivists faction. I lost touch with them, but they're likely still lurking around somewhere.

Luck, solidarity.

David Dewhurst

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Aug 15, 2017, 4:29:34 AM8/15/17
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I spoke to a mathematician last month who writes blockchain software for London financial institutions (aka banks sometimes) and he recommended these ..

Dave

Clive Menzies

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Aug 15, 2017, 5:50:42 AM8/15/17
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Thanks Dave

I've met and listened to Vinay Gupta at a couple of conferences. Interesting take.

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Clive

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david wilkinson

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Aug 15, 2017, 6:48:08 AM8/15/17
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Is this the sort of thing the Brexiteers envisage for getting things and people across an open border between EU and sovereign UK in Ireland? Or are they no smarter than I am?
Greg



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David Dewhurst

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Aug 15, 2017, 7:14:05 AM8/15/17
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I'm sure some do.
Salient for me is the tension between institutions controlling access to blockchain info & its wider freer control by users generally. To me it is just an unerasable white/black-board, hence validating transactions/obligations, and money with its social legal paraphinalia is largely a way of strengthening & collectivising transactions, agreements, trade. So the validation process which you can get people to swallow is of the essence of creating money. If institutions own it they will milk it. So it should be collective or (could this be an 'and'?) (inter)nationalised.
There is also the little issue of how bit-coin type mining could be undermined by quantum computing. ok there are also related cans of worms in the mining process currently afaics..
Dave


On 15 August 2017 at 11:48, 'david wilkinson' via lsxcampeconomics <lsxcampe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Is this the sort of thing the Brexiteers envisage for getting things and people across an open border between EU and sovereign UK in Ireland? Or are they no smarter than I am?
Greg



From: David Dewhurst <da...@dewhurst.net>
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I spoke to a mathematician last month who writes blockchain software for London financial institutions (aka banks sometimes) and he recommended these ..

Dave

On 14 August 2017 at 21:35, 'Mark Barrett' via lsxcampeconomics <lsxcampeconomics@googlegroups.com> wrote:

On 14 August 2017 at 21:34, Ann Narkeh <annn...@gmail.com> wrote:
Max Keiser is/was an ally, last time I checked. Him and Stacy Herbert joined us at Occupy Democracy Tarpaulin revolution and at Occupy Murdoch week. - if I remember correctly, he was also at OWS (and OL?).

If you can't reach him, you could try to find the Love Hacktivists faction. I lost touch with them, but they're likely still lurking around somewhere.

Luck, solidarity.

On 14 August 2017 at 21:22, Mark Barrett <occupy...@lists.riseup.net > wrote:
Do we know any experts on Blockchain ? 


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