hello

[joe]

   Physical security has always interested me,   over years ive had a few jobs in related fields although i have experience i feel i have alot to learn and am always interested in learning more.         i dont wanna piss of the alarm/security world so ill probably not be posting much on that  .

  what are the rules ?     posting links to sources ok ?    bypass tools allowed ?  attacks on electronic locks ?

 

[Essobi]

Anything goes man.  This is a full disclosure group.

I'm going to publish rules for disclosure and member behavior... but mostly I don't want anything too complicated. 

Don't commit a felony while using locks/picks/by-passes/etc.  Pretty simple.

I've got an old HID VertX system, I'm tempted to write up and start dissecting.

I've done some physical security and video monitoring systems, but mostly computer security and R&D.

Are those bumps in the bottom row?

We have no local Defcon, 2600, or LI type groups.  I'm trying to change that.

[joe]

cool deal ill play nice

  yes they are bumps for every common usa lock ive ever seen ,     the master keys are for every brand of fire/security panel ive ever seen including there replacement locks and also access control panels  ,    the tape is just one of the silly but simple lock defeats same with the bic peak10 pen . etc...

  really sucks no 2600 groups here ,  looking forward to it !

[Essobi]

You cut your own bumps?

Essobi

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[joe hiemersmit]

no sir , i traded some web/internet related work for them a barter system kinda thing

[Essobi]

Cool joe! If I can find blanks and a copy machine, can we make a master set for members to copy?

[joe hiemersmit]

yes sir thats fine with me , i have spares of some also ill  donate

[Essobi]

Really, I'd like to build a repository of bump key cuttings, pick diagrams and perhaps locks too.  

Anyone have access to a key micrometer?

 http://www.lockpicks.com/straight-yoke-key-micrometer.aspx

Essobi

[joe]

 A repository sounds neato ,    wish i had physical copies of "Practical Lock Picking: A Physical Penetration Tester's Training Guide"   its pretty good i think worth having a paper version id say ,.

   allthough there are tons of forum posts an scattered info's that could be printed out an made into a Zine / howto book thing .   pretty sure i could condense enough basics into a pamphlet

key micrometer nah i dont have access to one , allthough i do have digi calipers dunno if that helps

   ive wanted to play with key Impressioning  http://www.lockwiki.com/index.php/Impressioning 

  i was thinking you could make duplicates from photos ,  example of what i mean "someone snaps a birthday pic of you while at chucky cheese with your kids then posts it to facebook , but in the picture you have your keys on a keychain hanging off your hip .  id think with software someone could take measurements of a target key ,    dunno  if im just way out there stupid  thinking it could be done ,, id like to try an figure it out for the  lools

On Friday, June 29, 2012 11:13:37 PM UTC-5, Essobi wrote:

Really, I'd like to build a repository of bump key cuttings, pick diagrams and perhaps locks too.  

Anyone have access to a key micrometer?

 http://www.lockpicks.com/straight-yoke-key-micrometer.aspx

Essobi

On Jun 29, 2012, at 8:55 PM, joe hiemersmit <louisville.handcrafter@gmail.com> wrote:

yes sir thats fine with me , i have spares of some also ill  donate

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Essobi <ess...@gmail.com> wrote:

Cool joe! If I can find blanks and a copy machine, can we make a master set for members to copy?

On Jun 29, 2012, at 8:26 PM, joe hiemersmit <louisville.handcrafter@gmail.com> wrote:

no sir , i traded some web/internet related work for them a barter system kinda thing

  

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Essobi <ess...@gmail.com> wrote:

You cut your own bumps?

Essobi

On Jun 29, 2012, at 3:38 PM, joe <louisville.handcrafter@gmail.com> wrote:

cool deal ill play nice

  yes they are bumps for every common usa lock ive ever seen ,     the master keys are for every brand of fire/security panel ive ever seen including there replacement locks and also access control panels  ,    the tape is just one of the silly but simple lock defeats same with the bic peak10 pen . etc...

  really sucks no 2600 groups here ,  looking forward to it !


On Friday, June 29, 2012 2:29:46 PM UTC-5, Essobi wrote:

Anything goes man.  This is a full disclosure group.

I'm going to publish rules for disclosure and member behavior... but mostly I don't want anything too complicated. 

Don't commit a felony while using locks/picks/by-passes/etc.  Pretty simple.

I've got an old HID VertX system, I'm tempted to write up and start dissecting.

I've done some physical security and video monitoring systems, but mostly computer security and R&D.

Are those bumps in the bottom row?

We have no local Defcon, 2600, or LI type groups.  I'm trying to change that.

On Friday, June 29, 2012 2:59:48 PM UTC-4, joe wrote:

   Physical security has always interested me,   over years ive had a few jobs in related fields although i have experience i feel i have alot to learn and am always interested in learning more.         i dont wanna piss of the alarm/security world so ill probably not be posting much on that  .

  what are the rules ?     posting links to sources ok ?    bypass tools allowed ?  attacks on electronic locks ?

 

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[Essobi]

Zines? Wiki? I'm down like four flat tires. 

Haha. For the lools.

 I see what you did there. 

Someone made some software that'll let you print a key on a prototyper from a photo. I'll see if I can dig up the link. 

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[joe]

 zine i was  thinking make like a Rules and basic's type handout somthen kinda like this  http://www.fimp.net/makeabook.html   somthen simple an cheap almost  guerrilla style,

    im willing to help with any zine ,wiki ,etc,  least ill try so count me in .

   

   


On Saturday, June 30, 2012 12:07:49 PM UTC-5, Essobi wrote:

Zines? Wiki? I'm down like four flat tires. 

Haha. For the lools.

 I see what you did there. 

Someone made some software that'll let you print a key on a prototyper from a photo. I'll see if I can dig up the link. 

[joe]

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Zine_Making/Putting_pages_together#An_8-sided_zine_from_1_sheet_with_1_cut

[joe hiemersmit]

http://vision.ucsd.edu/~blaxton/sneakey.html

http://smartphones.wonderhowto.com/inspiration/duplicate-keys-with-your-iphone-or-make-plastic-3d-printed-backups-0127905/


   interesting stuff ,   surprised ive not seen more on it

[Essobi]

That's the exact one I was talking about Joe. Pretty damned slick I think but he never published the code. 

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