LED Screen Documentation

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Tom Mudd

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Jan 10, 2012, 11:33:12 AM1/10/12
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Dear all.

I've compiled all the documentation I have on the LED from Piccadilly
Circus.

Its currently on our companies ftp:

ftp://public.displayled.com/LED_Screens_Infodump/

Username - dlpublic
Password - tannoy


There's loads of info on there, some relevant, some not. It is all
however from the same manufacturer and would certainly give you a
better idea of how these screens were used / configured.

Enjoy !


Tom


ps - Ill be clearing the ftp in approx 48 hours so please download all
you need by then.

Sam Cook

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Jan 10, 2012, 11:35:13 AM1/10/12
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Cheers for this Tom, will start downloading now. 

S

Tim Storey

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Jan 10, 2012, 11:45:35 AM1/10/12
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thanks tom

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On 10/01/2012 16:35, Sam Cook wrote:
> Cheers for this Tom, will start downloading now.
>
> S
>
> On 10 January 2012 16:33, Tom Mudd <mist...@gmail.com

Dave Ingram

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Jan 10, 2012, 11:54:08 AM1/10/12
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Thanks! Snarfed :-)


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Sam Cook

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Jan 10, 2012, 11:56:28 AM1/10/12
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I have the lot so I'll be putting it on lovelace in a second once I compress it all

Looks like as well as various manuals we have a couple of training presentations as well as some (win '98) drivers/utilities. 

Hopefully enough for us to use and/or reverse engineer the system 

Thank again Tom!

S

Tom Mudd

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Jan 10, 2012, 12:03:50 PM1/10/12
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On the reverse engineering subject, I think the best way for you to
hack the LED is to look at the data on the ribbon cable joining the
three LED tiles.

The SIB and whole serial data side of Lighthouse kit is seriously high
bandwidth custom protocol stuff (loosely based on HD-SDI video). I
think trying to re-engineer anything on the serial side is going to be
one almighty headache.

Mind you - I believe there's enough electronics IQ up there in
hackspace to reverse engineer NASA so - by all means give it a go :-)


Tom

Mike Harrison

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Jan 14, 2012, 10:21:20 AM1/14/12
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Here is the datasheet for the LED drivers used in these tiles
http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/31602/TOSHIBA/TB62706.html

Looks like it does not do onboard PWM, so to get greyscales you need to drive them fast enough to
PWM them via the data. The tile master PCB is simple enough to be able to trace out the
connections, even if you need to sacrifice one for better access.

Should be a doddle to get a single tile displaying non-greyscale data though, and could probably do
some PWM on one tile with an Arduino - you'll run out of bandwidth and memory pretty quickly on
anything bigger.
.
Not looked in detail but considering how little there is on the 'master' board on each 16x16 tile, I
think the addressing is by simply selecting which data line on the ribbon the drivers connect to.
there is an eeprom on each tile, which I imagine would contain intensity calibration data.

Tom Mudd

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Jan 14, 2012, 10:46:50 AM1/14/12
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Hi Mike.

You're quite right about the PWM and that's a spot on guess about the
eeprom.

The eeprom was a unique feature of the Lighthouse tiles at the time.

When manufactured, they were burnt-in for about 1 week and then put in
a calibration chamber.

The calibration data (individual LED intensity data) gathered would
then be written to the eeprom on each tile and be used to subtly
adjust the intensity of every LED on the tile.

When all the tiles were assembled into one big screen, the calibration
data would get compared and equalised among all the tiles and (in
theory) this would mean every tile would be calibrated with every
other tile in the screen.

Fairly cutting edge back in the day.


Tom


On Jan 14, 3:21 pm, Mike Harrison <m...@whitewing.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:03:50 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
> >On the reverse engineering subject, I think the best way for you to
> >hack the LED is to look at the data on the ribbon cable joining the
> >three LED tiles.
>
> >The SIB and whole serial data side of Lighthouse kit is seriously high
> >bandwidth custom protocol stuff (loosely based on HD-SDI video). I
> >think trying to re-engineer anything on the serial side is going to be
> >one almighty headache.
>
> >Mind you - I believe there's enough electronics IQ up there in
> >hackspace to reverse engineer NASA so - by all means give it a go :-)
>
> >Tom
>
> Here is the datasheet for the LED drivers used in these tileshttp://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/31602/TOSHIBA/TB62706...
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