guheks and geks for operators

[Gleki Arxokuna]

as was just discovered in the chat:

http://dag.github.io/cll/14/17/

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The basic components of mekso are operands, like “2”, and operators, like “+”.

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Operands are connected in afterthought with eks and in forethought with geks, just like sumti. Operators, on the other hand, are connected in afterthought with jeks and in forethought with guheks, just like tanru components. (However, jeks and joiks with “bo” are not allowed for operators.) This parallelism is no accident.

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17.4)  li re ge su'i gi pi'i re du li vo

       The-number two both plus and times two equals the-number four.

       Both 2 + 2 = 4 and 2 x 2 = 4.

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Example 17.4) contradicts what is stated before. It is not parsed neither by http://www.lojban.org/jboski

nor by http://camxes.lojban.org

However, if we change it to 

17.4)  li re gu'e su'i gi pi'i re du li vo [boi]

then it would parse (if we add {boi} for jboski)

Is it an error in CLL? Has it been already described?

[Zsbán Ambrus]

On 5/21/14, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://dag.github.io/cll/14/17/

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> Example 17.4) contradicts what is stated before. It is not parsed
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> Is it an error in CLL? Has it been already described?

There's more where this came from. In chapter 18, see

http://dag.github.io/cll/18/17/

This repeats the same mistake in example 17.5. That example too
should use {gu'e} instead of {ge} because it tries to connect mekso
operators.

Further, in the same page, the English translation of 17.6 is missing
the division bar, also "then x = " should be vertically aligned with
the division bar rather that with the numerator. This is probably a
formatting problem that got created during conversion.

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mi'e .ionac.

[guskant]

 As for Example 17.6 of Chapter 18, we need also a condition a/=0, and the lojban sentence should be: 

go ge li .abu bi'epi'i vei xy. te'a re ve'o su'i by. bi'epi'i xy. su'i cy. du li no 

gi li .abu nadu li no 

gi li xy. du li vei va'a by. ku'e su'i ja vu'u fe'a vei by. bi'ete'a re vu'u vo bi'epi'i .abu bi'epi'i cy. ve'o ku'e ve'o fe'i re bi'epi'i .abu

(which we Japanese lojbo discussed long ago:

http://ponjbogri.github.io/cll-ja/chapter18.html#e17.6

)

[Gleki Arxokuna]

Also dag's CLL  lost example 17.6) which can be still found in the original:

http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter18.html

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