Diplomacy as Lojban proficiency test.

[Robin Lee Powell]

So we've started a Diplomacy game (
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=80849 ). Diplomacy is
a game with extremely simple rules, where winning the game is based
more-or-less entirely on your ability to negotiate with the other
players (and then betray them at the best time :D).

I think this is a very good format for demonstrating proficiency, in
a manner similar to my commentary earlier about "if you can figure
out co-operative puzzles, you are competent". I imagine that
whether or not you can win at diplomacy with turns of a given length
says quite a bit about your proficiency with Lojban. Turns of, say,
two minutes long would push your Lojban ability to the limit, I
imagine.

-Robin

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[Michael Turniansky]

  Except I've always disliked that game :-/ (And I own over 300 board games).  Ah, well.  Might have to bite the bullet for the good of the jbocecmu

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[selpa'i]

It says I need a password to join in. What is the password?

Am 24.02.2012 20:32, schrieb Robin Lee Powell:
> So we've started a Diplomacy game (
> http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=80849 ). Diplomacy is
> a game with extremely simple rules, where winning the game is based
> more-or-less entirely on your ability to negotiate with the other
> players (and then betray them at the best time :D).
>
> I think this is a very good format for demonstrating proficiency, in
> a manner similar to my commentary earlier about "if you can figure
> out co-operative puzzles, you are competent". I imagine that
> whether or not you can win at diplomacy with turns of a given length
> says quite a bit about your proficiency with Lojban. Turns of, say,
> two minutes long would push your Lojban ability to the limit, I
> imagine.
>
> -Robin
>

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[MorphemeAddict]

This game sounds less a test of language ability than of game-playing or negotiating ability. 

stevo

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpo...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:

[Matthew Walton]

But you can't negotiate if you don't speak the language to a level
beyond {mi pendo do}.

[Robin Lee Powell]

As far as I know the game is full, but I believe the password was
japvla

-Robin

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[MorphemeAddict]

True, but even speaking the language fluently doesn't mean a person will be able to play well. 

stevo

[Robin Lee Powell]

Speaking well may or may not lead to being successful; failing to
speak effectively will without question lead to failure, however.

Over a sequence of games, assuming short turns and real differences
in fluency, some people will sometimes win, and some people will
never win; the former are advanced and the turns made shorter,
continue until bored.

It was a fairly idle thought, regardless.

-Robin