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Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I shall not be able to participate in a meeting held on Sept. 17 at 3:00 p.m. (EDT?) I shall be unavailable on Sept. 17 from roughly 12:00 p.m. EDT until roughly 8:30 p.m. EDT. Allow me to note that Sept. 17 is frequently celebrated as Constitution Day; some LP organizations conduct outreach events on that day.
For whatever it is worth, I have commitments on each Saturday from Sept. 3 until Nov. 19 (in most cases I shall be involved with Libertarian activities). If we must hold a meeting on a Saturday in September, I request that it begin no earlier than 8:00 p.m. EDT. Also, I prefer that we not hold a meeting on Sept. 10 unless absolutely necessary.
Thanks for your work for liberty, and for considering my requests.
Take care,
Jim
James W. Lark, III
Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society
University of Virginia
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University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
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I am available for a meeting on any Sunday in September except that I will have to jump off at 8:00 PM CT for an LPNE SCC meeting to handle my duties as secretary.
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Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. Allow me to offer some comments regarding the matter of a proposed September meeting.
1) It is very unlikely I can participate in a meeting on Sept. 11 unless it is held after 8:30 p.m. EDT that day. As of this moment I should be available throughout the day on Sept. 25.
2) Article 7, section 9 of the LP Bylaws allows meetings to be called if at least one-third of the LNC so request in writing. However, unless a majority of LNC members indicate agreement that such a meeting be held, I request that those seeking a meeting withdraw their call.
As far as I am aware, there is no issue before us that cannot be handled in a timely manner via e-mail discussion and ballots. Thus, unless an issue emerges for which a majority of LNC members believe a meeting is clearly necessary, I prefer that a meeting not be called prior to our scheduled meeting in December.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. As always, thanks for considering my comments and requests.
Take care,
Jim
James W. Lark, III
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
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Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
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On 8/20/2016 2:56 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
I am averse to having a meeting on 9/11 just for memorial reasons. That day is tough emotionally for a lot of people. How about the 25th? I would agree to the 11th if other meeting supporters wanted it.
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Daniel Hayes <daniel...@icloud.com> wrote:
I have an event that day too till 5 pm central... That is THE worst weekend for me. I could do 8pm which Dr large expressed interest in but that leaves out Tim. Sunday September 11th is better for me.
Daniel HayesLNC At Large Member
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Ranked voting - I vote in favor of all three in the following order and the 3pm-6pm ET is fine on all three proposed Sundays:
1. 9/25
2. 9/18
3. 9/11
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How about this: anyone who is willing to call for a meeting indicate what days they would support out of these
9/11 3pm-6pmET
9/18 3pm-6pmET
9/25 3pm-6pmET
Whichever one gets the most (but over 6), we will use.
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am averse to having a meeting on 9/11 just for memorial reasons. That day is tough emotionally for a lot of people. How about the 25th? I would agree to the 11th if other meeting supporters wanted it.
--In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Daniel Hayes <daniel...@icloud.com> wrote:
I have an event that day too till 5 pm central... That is THE worst weekend for me. I could do 8pm which Dr large expressed interest in but that leaves out Tim. Sunday September 11th is better for me.
Daniel Hayes
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On Aug 20, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
It looks like a Sunday is better for everyone. So how about 9/18 3pm ET through 6 pm ET.
We need 1/3 of the committee to call this. I am one. Who will join me? (and add potential items to discuss). There are 17 members so by my terrible math we need 6 members to call.
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:27 AM, David Demarest <dpdem...@centurylink.net> wrote:
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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 7:48 AM, James Lark <jw...@eservices.virginia.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. I shall not be able to participate in a meeting held on Sept. 17 at 3:00 p.m. (EDT?) I shall be unavailable on Sept. 17 from roughly 12:00 p.m. EDT until roughly 8:30 p.m. EDT. Allow me to note that Sept. 17 is frequently celebrated as Constitution Day; some LP organizations conduct outreach events on that day.
For whatever it is worth, I have commitments on each Saturday from Sept. 3 until Nov. 19 (in most cases I shall be involved with Libertarian activities). If we must hold a meeting on a Saturday in September, I request that it begin no earlier than 8:00 p.m. EDT. Also, I prefer that we not hold a meeting on Sept. 10 unless absolutely necessary.
Thanks for your work for liberty, and for considering my requests.
Take care,
Jim
James W. Lark, III
Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society
University of Virginia
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
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On 8/19/2016 9:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
Okay now then with this limited feedback, I will make a more firm suggestion. I would like supporters for a 9/17/16 electronic meeting as described by our Policy Manuel to be scheduled for 3 hours beginning at 3pm on 9/17/16 with the following agenda topics:
Goals (focusing on post-November member retention)
Transparency proposal
Campaign update (perhaps invite Nielson)
Now that there is something specific... thoughts? Firm support?
Here are the Policy Manual Provisions as I understand:
- d) Electronic meetings may be called by either:
- The committee Chair, or
- 1/3 of the committee members or 2 committee members, whichever is greater. However, the call of an electronic meeting can be canceled if a majority of the committee members email a cancellation request to the entire committee prior to the scheduled time of the meeting.
- e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
- f) For electronic LNC meetings, messages calling or vetoing a meeting must be sent on the LNC-Business email list.
- g) When a sufficient number of people have issued a call for an electronic meeting, the committee Chair or Secretary shall issue a notice of the meeting to each member and alternate of the committee. In addition to the standard notice content, the meeting notice shall describe how to participate in the meeting.
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Joshua Katz <planning...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree entirely that we need to figure out how to turn the new roof into strong walls.
Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Joshua, perhaps just one portion of goals could be discussed. Specifically member retention following November in the event we don't win. There will be a lot of disillusioned people that we will need to retain for all the great Libertarian work there is to do. And if we win, it is still a great portion of goals to discuss. We can't let these brand new Libertarians slip through the cracks.
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Joshua Katz <planning...@gmail.com> wrote:
This is, in part, why I didn't think goals was a good topic for the electronic meeting. The other part is closely related, though - I just don't think the online environment is conducive to the type of discussion we seem to want to have on goals. In addition to what Alicia pointed out, there's just something uncomfortable about sitting in front of the computer and having a meeting, something different from what happens in a physical meeting. Maybe it's the way your camera and headphones keep you from getting up and walking around the room, maybe it's the artificial feel, I'm not sure. In any case, I strongly agree that we should keep it to 1-2 hours. I'd rather we take up business that needs real discussion but can be completed reasonably quickly, such as your transparency proposal, rather than something like goals. Just my $.02 though.
Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Alicia, I am fine with shorter. If things are not completed, we discuss another one. Let's shoot for two hours then for goals at a minimum though I really would like my transparency proposal to be heard as it is prerequisite to an empower committee proposal I am working on with Joshua.
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Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Alicia Mattson <agma...@gmail.com> wrote:
4-6 hours is a LOT for an online meeting, especially for the first time a group uses a new technology. Online meetings are adequate for one or two narrow subjects at a time.
It is NOT the same as an in-person meeting. Some are dealing with other distractions like pets, other people, and televisions. There will be barking dogs, interrupting kids/grandkids, neighbors mowing the yard, ringing phones, etc. There's usually at least one person who will not follow the instructions about how to avoid creating an echo for everyone else. It's really hard to pay attention in those circumstances. Some are not tech savvy and struggle to participate.
The last time we had one, it was like a game of whack-a-mole for me to keep background noise out from the microphones of people not speaking who forgot to self-mute.
Let's not schedule an all-day ordeal. If there are a couple of subjects we need to take up, fine. But we really should try a 1-2 hour meeting first before we shoot for the moon.
-Alicia
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Joshua. We can start batting around some dates if we get enough support. Or if the Chair calls a meeting. A member asked me privately how much time I was talking about and I said 4-6 hours total (I anticipate there will be other agenda items that people would want, and perhaps inviting Nielson to give a campaign update would be in order).
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Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Katz <planning...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with meeting electronically in September. I'm not sure about handling goals at such a meeting, but I do think we should meet. My availability is questionable, though, but I'll say this: I can't tell you "I'm available at such and such times" but I will make every effort to attend, whenever it is scheduled.
Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
I firmly believe we need a September electronic meeting. I would like people to give availibility. Seems to me this is something that can and should be discussed publicly without off-list private discussions.
Business? Primarily the goals that were not done the last meeting. And any other outstanding issues, for myself that would be the transparency proposal.
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Ranked voting - I vote in favor of all three in the following order and the 3pm-6pm ET is fine on all three proposed Sundays:
1. 9/25
2. 9/18
3. 9/11
If we don't get six members so be it, but I will try. If we have a meeting, we can dispose of certain issues and get things moved to committee and become more efficient. If we are going to have a Membership Retention Committee that has to be formed yesterday.
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Six people might be able to call a meeting, but a quorum to conduct business is still nine people.
Aaron Starr
(805) 583-3308 Home
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Dr. Lark and committee:
The PM requires 1/3 not 1/2 so I believe it appropriate if 1/3 requests so I do not intend to withdraw my call. Further the members of my region have shared my sentiment and I serve their interests.
While in theory all of this could be done in email, the reality of the practice is starkly different. If members wish to convince me otherwise then let's have real discussions here on list on these issues with full participation. The fact is that most discussions here are largely ignored and fall into an institutional vortex. Even if I speak alone, that is something I will rail against and this has been this far the desire of the region who elected me. And if I am anything, it is zealous to be a faithful representative.
Let's get my transparency proposal to a vote and I will be convinced this can be handled by email. I have had three aborted tries to even get a full discussion on it.
Until we really start - everyone - consistently and fully articulating on this list. I will not believe this an efficient way to run party business between the overly long time frame in between meetings.
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On Saturday, August 20, 2016, James Lark <jw...@eservices.virginia.edu> wrote:
Dear colleagues:
I hope all is well with you. Allow me to offer some comments regarding the matter of a proposed September meeting.
1) It is very unlikely I can participate in a meeting on Sept. 11 unless it is held after 8:30 p.m. EDT that day. As of this moment I should be available throughout the day on Sept. 25.
2) Article 7, section 9 of the LP Bylaws allows meetings to be called if at least one-third of the LNC so request in writing. However, unless a majority of LNC members indicate agreement that such a meeting be held, I request that those seeking a meeting withdraw their call.
As far as I am aware, there is no issue before us that cannot be handled in a timely manner via e-mail discussion and ballots. Thus, unless an issue emerges for which a majority of LNC members believe a meeting is clearly necessary, I prefer that a meeting not be called prior to our scheduled meeting in December.
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. As always, thanks for considering my comments and requests.
Take care,
Jim
James W. Lark, III
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
University of Virginia
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
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On 8/20/2016 2:56 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
I am averse to having a meeting on 9/11 just for memorial reasons. That day is tough emotionally for a lot of people. How about the 25th? I would agree to the 11th if other meeting supporters wanted it.
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Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org
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Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Daniel Hayes <daniel...@icloud.com> wrote:
I have an event that day too till 5 pm central... That is THE worst weekend for me. I could do 8pm which Dr large expressed interest in but that leaves out Tim. Sunday September 11th is better for me.
Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large Member
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I cannot participate in a meeting on 9/17. I will be at my state executive committee meeting all day that day.
Whitney Bilyeu
Okay now then with this limited feedback, I will make a more firm suggestion. I would like supporters for a 9/17/16 electronic meeting as described by our Policy Manuel to be scheduled for 3 hours beginning at 3pm on 9/17/16 with the following agenda topics:Goals (focusing on post-November member retention)Transparency proposalCampaign update (perhaps invite Nielson)Now that there is something specific... thoughts? Firm support?Here are the Policy Manual Provisions as I understand:
d) Electronic meetings may be called by either:
The committee Chair, or
1/3 of the committee members or 2 committee members, whichever is greater. However, the call of an electronic meeting can be canceled if a majority of the committee members email a cancellation request to the entire committee prior to the scheduled time of the meeting.
e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting, time of the meeting, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
f) For electronic LNC meetings, messages calling or vetoing a meeting must be sent on the LNC-Business email list.
g) When a sufficient number of people have issued a call for an electronic meeting, the committee Chair or Secretary shall issue a notice of the meeting to each member and alternate of the committee. In addition to the standard notice content, the meeting notice shall describe how to participate in the meeting.
--In Liberty,Caryn Ann HarlosRegion 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.orgCommunications Director, Libertarian Party of ColoradoColorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Joshua Katz <planning...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree entirely that we need to figure out how to turn the new roof into strong walls.
Joshua A. KatzWestbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Joshua, perhaps just one portion of goals could be discussed. Specifically member retention following November in the event we don't win. There will be a lot of disillusioned people that we will need to retain for all the great Libertarian work there is to do. And if we win, it is still a great portion of goals to discuss. We can't let these brand new Libertarians slip through the cracks.
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Joshua Katz <planning...@gmail.com> wrote:
This is, in part, why I didn't think goals was a good topic for the electronic meeting. The other part is closely related, though - I just don't think the online environment is conducive to the type of discussion we seem to want to have on goals. In addition to what Alicia pointed out, there's just something uncomfortable about sitting in front of the computer and having a meeting, something different from what happens in a physical meeting. Maybe it's the way your camera and headphones keep you from getting up and walking around the room, maybe it's the artificial feel, I'm not sure. In any case, I strongly agree that we should keep it to 1-2 hours. I'd rather we take up business that needs real discussion but can be completed reasonably quickly, such as your transparency proposal, rather than something like goals. Just my $.02 though.
Joshua A. KatzWestbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Alicia, I am fine with shorter. If things are not completed, we discuss another one. Let's shoot for two hours then for goals at a minimum though I really would like my transparency proposal to be heard as it is prerequisite to an empower committee proposal I am working on with Joshua.
--In Liberty,Caryn Ann HarlosRegion 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.orgCommunications Director, Libertarian Party of ColoradoColorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Alicia Mattson <agma...@gmail.com> wrote:
4-6 hours is a LOT for an online meeting, especially for the first time a group uses a new technology. Online meetings are adequate for one or two narrow subjects at a time.It is NOT the same as an in-person meeting. Some are dealing with other distractions like pets, other people, and televisions. There will be barking dogs, interrupting kids/grandkids, neighbors mowing the yard, ringing phones, etc. There's usually at least one person who will not follow the instructions about how to avoid creating an echo for everyone else. It's really hard to pay attention in those circumstances. Some are not tech savvy and struggle to participate.The last time we had one, it was like a game of whack-a-mole for me to keep background noise out from the microphones of people not speaking who forgot to self-mute.Let's not schedule an all-day ordeal. If there are a couple of subjects we need to take up, fine. But we really should try a 1-2 hour meeting first before we shoot for the moon.-Alicia
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Joshua. We can start batting around some dates if we get enough support. Or if the Chair calls a meeting. A member asked me privately how much time I was talking about and I said 4-6 hours total (I anticipate there will be other agenda items that people would want, and perhaps inviting Nielson to give a campaign update would be in order).
--In Liberty,Caryn Ann HarlosRegion 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.orgCommunications Director, Libertarian Party of ColoradoColorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Katz <planning...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with meeting electronically in September. I'm not sure about handling goals at such a meeting, but I do think we should meet. My availability is questionable, though, but I'll say this: I can't tell you "I'm available at such and such times" but I will make every effort to attend, whenever it is scheduled.
Joshua A. KatzWestbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:
I firmly believe we need a September electronic meeting. I would like people to give availibility. Seems to me this is something that can and should be discussed publicly without off-list private discussions.
Business? Primarily the goals that were not done the last meeting. And any other outstanding issues, for myself that would be the transparency proposal.
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