[Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION

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Aug 15, 2018, 5:56:37 AM8/15/18
to Libertarian National Committee list, Caryn Ann Harlos
We have an electronic mail ballot.


Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 22, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
Pacific time.


Co-Sponsors: Caryn Ann Harlos, Richard Longstreth, Steven Nekhaila, Justin
O’Donnell, Joshua Smith


Motion: Move to adopt the following resolution:


WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore the
right of privatization of property as an extension of the individual;


WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party explicitly
supports the right to private property ownership, including the right to do
business utilizing that property as capital;


WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of individuals
to own private property including land, structures, natural resources and
other private space through homesteading, purchase, and other lawful
libertarian means;


WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to land
and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist as justly
owned property unless otherwise abandoned;


WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian Party
since its inception;


THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property ownership
schemes, including the collectivization of property, unlawful usurpation of
property, and incorrect characterizations of private property, unless
otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are incompatible with the
philosophy of the Libertarian Party.


=============================================


Important Bylaws note:


Resolutions require passage by 3/4 vote as follows:


Article 7:

***

The National Committee may adopt public policy resolutions by a ¾ vote with
previous notice or by unanimous consent without previous notice.


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You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to the actual
ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally
was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.


Please notify me of any discrepancies.


--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org


A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 6:24:05 AM8/15/18
to Libertarian National Committee list, Caryn Ann Harlos
BALLOT CORRECTION: Expiration date is AUGUST 22, 2018.

My mind has been left in July. September will really throw it for a loop.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com>
wrote:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 7:00:20 AM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Richard Longstreth, Caryn Ann Harlos
I vote Yes.
> [2]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to the
> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> [3]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> [4]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 2. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 3. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 4. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
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Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.l...@lp.org
931.538.9300

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Aug 15, 2018, 7:01:14 AM8/15/18
to Richard Longstreth, Caryn Ann Harlos, lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
I vote yes.
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org


A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

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Aug 15, 2018, 7:56:24 AM8/15/18
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 06:00 Caryn Ann Harlos <carynan...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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Aug 15, 2018, 8:50:17 AM8/15/18
to Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business, Caryn Ann Harlos, john.p...@lp.org
I vote NO
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Richard Longstreth via Lnc-businessDate: Wed, Aug 15, 2018 6:56 AMTo: Caryn Ann Harlos;Cc: Richard Longstreth;lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION
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On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 06:00 Caryn Ann Harlos
> Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
>
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
> --
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.l...@lp.org
931.538.9300

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 06:00 Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1]carynan...@gmail.com> wrote:

I vote yes.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:00 AM Richard Longstreth
<[2]richard.l...@lp.org> wrote:

I vote Yes.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 05:23 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
<[3]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

BALLOT CORRECTION: Expiration date is AUGUST 22, 2018.
My mind has been left in July. September will really throw it
for a
loop.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos

[2][5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link
1. mailto:[6]carynan...@gmail.com
2. [7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
3. mailto:[8]Caryn.An...@LP.org
4. mailto:[9]Caryn.An...@LP.org

--

Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
[10]richard.l...@lp.org
931.538.9300

--

In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos

Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
[11]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.

Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft

--

Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
[12]richard.l...@lp.org
931.538.9300

References

1. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
2. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
3. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
4. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
6. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
8. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
9. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
10. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
11. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
12. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 9:51:44 AM8/15/18
to Lnc-Business, Caryn Ann Harlos, Steven Nekhaila



I vote AYE. Property rights are individual rights.



In Liberty,


Steven Nekhaila

Region 2 Representative



impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt

“Those without power cannot defend freedom”
> https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to the actual
> ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual tally
> was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>
>
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.

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Aug 15, 2018, 10:00:20 AM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Justin O'Donnell
I vote YES
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Aug 15, 2018, 12:02:24 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos, brent...@lp.org
I vote YES.

In Liberty,
K. Brent Olsen, Psy.D.
Alternate, Region 4

> [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to

> the
> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> --

> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos

> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -

> [2]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.


> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>

> 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 2. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 1:08:53 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Nicholas Sarwark
If this resolution merely restates the platform and statement of
principles, it is redundant.

If it goes beyond the platform and statement of principles, it is inappropriate.

In any case, it is a divisive and distracting waste of time to argue
over who is a "real libertarian."

I vote NO.

Yours in liberty,
Nick

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 2:07:05 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
The attached is what I vote no on.

Not compatible with LP Principles.

It is a very clear and polite statement of the ideology that is co-opting
our Party.
--
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 2:09:22 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
Because of that, I vote YES on the resolution. Having polite proponents
of the opposing view explain in their own words what they are promoting
under the LP banner is more eloquent than I can be.

Resolution aside - does anyone here think that statement is compatible with
LP principles?

-Caryn Ann

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:06 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.an...@lp.org>
wrote:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 2:23:57 PM8/15/18
to Lnc-Business, Susan Hogarth



Wait. Are we voting on a resolution or on a screencap of one person’s philosophico-economic maunderings?



You’re trying to have it both ways: that the resolution just ‘supports’ what we already say and isn’t targeted at anyone, and now here that it is directly targeted at people who you don’t think understand libertarianism. (And maybe they don’t - that’s beside the point).



This is the core problem with this resolution: the vote is being held up as some sort of litmus test on whether LNC members are “the right sort of libertarian”. I wish I could convey how insulting and manipulative that feels.



I support the Platform and the SoP. That’s why I am here. That’s why we are *all* here. I resent mightily the implication that if (or others) fail to support what we may think is a poorly concieved, opportunistic, and divisive resolution that we somehow have rejected capitalism apple pie and the libertarian way.




Susan Jane Hogarth

Region 5 Alternate

919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)







>
> On Aug 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, <Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org)> wrote:
>
>
>
> Because of that, I vote YES on the resolution. Having polite
> proponents of the opposing view explain in their own words what they
> are promoting under the LP banner is more eloquent than I can be.
> Resolution aside - does anyone here think that statement is compatible
> with LP principles?
> -Caryn Ann
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:06 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[1]caryn.an...@lp.org> wrote:
>
> The attached is what I vote no on.
>
> Not compatible with LP Principles.
>
> It is a very clear and polite statement of the ideology that is
> co-opting our Party.
>
> [cid:1653ec4b605b44f05e91]
> > [1][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a
> link to the
> > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that
> the
> > manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
> >
> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> -
> > [2]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. [5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 2. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [7]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [8]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 8. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
>

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 2:28:15 PM8/15/18
to Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business, john.p...@lp.org
*standing ovation*
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Susan Hogarth via Lnc-businessDate: Wed, Aug 15, 2018 1:23 PMTo: Lnc-Business;Cc: Susan Hogarth;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION
Wait. Are we voting on a resolution or on a screencap of one person’s
philosophico-economic maunderings?

You’re trying to have it both ways: that the resolution just ‘supports’
what we already say and isn’t targeted at anyone, and now here that it
is directly targeted at people who you don’t think understand
libertarianism. (And maybe they don’t - that’s beside the point).

This is the core problem with this resolution: the vote is being held
up as some sort of litmus test on whether LNC members are “the right
sort of libertarian”. I wish I could convey how insulting and
manipulative that feels.

I support the Platform and the SoP. That’s why I am here. That’s why we
are *all* here. I resent mightily the implication that if (or others)
fail to support what we may think is a poorly concieved, opportunistic,
and divisive resolution that we somehow have rejected capitalism apple
pie and the libertarian way.

Susan Jane Hogarth

Region 5 Alternate

[1]919-906-2106

On Aug 15, 2018 at 2:08 PM, <[2]Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business>
References

1. tel:919-906-2106
2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 2:29:39 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
On a resolution.

I was merely letting a polite spokesperson and not a shock jock clearly
state what entryism prompted this whole thing.
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 3:18:43 PM8/15/18
to Libertarian National Committee list, Alicia Mattson
I vote no.

I heart private property rights as much as the rest of you do. Rent
is not theft. Our platform sufficiently addresses the issue already.

But, I’m not going to be leveraged into a yes vote with:
1) you-either-vote-with-us-or-you’re-with-the-socialists type comments, or
2) conflations that a vote against this motion in this set of
circumstances is the equivalent of opposing the Statement of
Principles, or
3) drama such as, “It is pathetic that a property rights resolution
would be controversial.”

It’s not that I disagree with the “whereas” clauses, to the extent
that I think I know what they mean. I’m pretty confused exactly what
position is being advocated about “abandoned” property. Aren’t the
socialists arguing that the property has been abandoned, so it’s fair
game to take it? This wording could be read to suggest that abandoned
property might be an exception. I also am uncertain what constitutes,
“unlawful usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of
private property”. Does “incorrect characterizations” get into a free
speech issue? It doesn’t matter, though…

The real yes/no question here is not whether we agree with these
ideas. The real question posed by this motion is whether it is
productive for the LNC to adopt this resolution in these current
circumstances.

What I am clear about, however, is that this is an attempt to drag the
LNC into a personal social media fight. If this were to pass, it
would mostly be used to run back to Facebook, drop it like a trump
card, and essentially say, “Nanny nanny boo boo!”

In order to discourage the LNC from navel-gazing activities, LP Bylaw
Article 7.11 sets a high threshold for adopting public policy
resolutions.

This is hardly the first time that I have voted against a resolution,
not even necessarily due to the content (though I do find this one
confusing), but to discourage the LNC from becoming distracted with
pointless resolutions in the future.

It's unfortunate that potential members are getting confused about
whether the party itself espouses socialist or communist ideas, but
it's very easy to point them to the adopted platform to show that we
don't.

-Alicia

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 2:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business

> [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to the


> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> [2]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 3:46:17 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Elizabeth Van Horn, Caryn Ann Harlos
Why isn't capitalism included along with socialism and communism?

If: We believe that: "....unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all

parties, are
> incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party."

Then it doesn't matter what economic system it is. We don't believe in
*forcing* people into submission. That stands true for ALL economic
systems. Currently, we live in a semi-capitalistic economic system. We
aspire to the true free-market, but don't have it.

IF: We don't believe in the "unlawful
> usurpation of property,.."

Whose laws? Laws come from the state. Yet, we have anarchists in the
LP who assert that the state has no right to enact laws without the
voluntary agreement of ALL people. So, are property laws taking into
consideration the agreement of *all* people? No, of course not.
Because, not all people agree, nor wish to have those laws. (Mind you,
I believe in the right of owning property, but I *don't* believe in
forcing my beliefs onto others.)

IF: We believe in the rights of individuals...

Then, why would be disavow the right to, "incorrect characterizations of
private property,.." ? People have a right to incorrectly characterize
ideas. Are we now saying that people have no right to thoughts and
speech with which we disagree? It doesn't matter if, "unless otherwise
voluntarily agreed by all parties", when it comes to free speech rights.
That's the whole point of free speech! Since when is free speech,
"incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party."? Who
decides what is an "incorrect characterization"? If freely agreed upon
by a group, then it doesn't matter what characterization one makes.

What has caused the sponsors of this resolution to single out two
economic systems that a handful of noisy LP members support? If our LP
platform already spells out our values, then we point to the platform.
But, this resolution isn't about just support of our platform, which was
confirmed by delegates at our 2018 national convention in July. This is
about acknowledging that a few noisy people within the LP have irked and
scared some other members. They're so scared that the free market of
ideas might not have their ideas come out on top. So, out of fear, they
wish to use an LNC Top-Down Resolution, to give a smack-down to the tiny
rabble that dare to challenge their ideas.

It's too bad that the original suggested resolution, which championed
capitalism and I was willing to co-sponsor after tweaking the language,
was rejected in favor of this poorly worded one.

I vote: NO


---
Elizabeth Van Horn

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 3:52:32 PM8/15/18
to Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business, john.p...@lp.org
I agree with everything you said, but just to satisfy the "muh rules" crowd, you might want to put your vote in its own email. Or at least at the beginning.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business Date: Wed, Aug 15, 2018 2:46 PMTo: lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org;Cc: Elizabeth Van Horn;Caryn Ann Harlos;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 3:56:20 PM8/15/18
to Lnc-Business, Susan Hogarth



Not to embark on a tedious philosophical discussion, but anarchists often speak of ‘lawful’, usually meaning natural law or (sometimes) common law. Anachy means ‘without rulers’ (or ‘self rule’), not ‘without rules’.




Susan Jane Hogarth

Region 5 Alternate

919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 4:02:34 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Elizabeth Van Horn
Well, one other person (Nick) also put the vote after a statement. I
may send another vote, with the vote at the beginning, and my statement
below. I'll see if my vote shows up on the vote tally sheet that Caryn
Ann keeps.

---
Elizabeth Van Horn


On 2018-08-15 15:52, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> I agree with everything you said, but just to satisfy the "muh rules"
> crowd, you might want to put your vote in its own email. Or at least
> at
> the beginning.
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative

> Cell [1]217-412-5973


>
> ------ Original message------
> From: Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
> Date: Wed, Aug 15, 2018 2:46 PM
> To: [2]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org;
> Cc: Elizabeth Van Horn;Caryn Ann Harlos;
> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS
> RESOLUTION

>> [1][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link

>> to
>> the
>> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
>> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>>
>> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -

>> [2][5]Caryn.Ann.[6] Har...@LP.org or[7] Secr...@LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[8] LPe...@LP.org


>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>

>> 1. [9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 2. mailto[10]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:217-412-5973
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. tel:2018-08-15 05
> 4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.
> 5. http://Caryn.An/
> 6. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 7. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 8. mailto: LPe...@LP.org
> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 4:22:53 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
There is no issue with putting the vote at the end.

There is no rule against burying it in the middle.

If you even vote on the wrong email thread I’ll try to catch it.

I’m not sure where the impression was got that there was some rule.

Best practice - put first.

But the is just to make it clear, unambiguous, and easy to find.

There was nothing unclear or difficult to find in EVH’s vote.

-Caryn Ann
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 4:38:37 PM8/15/18
to Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business, john.p...@lp.org
The impression came from the discussion on it just a few days ago.  That's where.  We had a whole thread on it, talking about voting and discussion being separated and what the actual procedure was supposed to be.
Sorry for trying to make everyone's comprehension a little easier.  Particularly since I already had 1 vote lost in the electronic mishmash and just didn't want anyone else to have issues.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Date: Wed, Aug 15, 2018 3:22 PMTo: lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION
Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*

>> [1][4][3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with
a link
>> to
>> the
>> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time
that the
>> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>>
>> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
-
>> [2][5]Caryn.Ann.[6] Har...@LP.org or[7] Secr...@LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[8] LPe...@LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. [9][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 2. mailto[10]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:217-412-5973
> 2. mailto:[5]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. tel:2018-08-15 05
> 4. [6]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.
> 5. [7]http://Caryn.An/
> 6. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 7. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 8. mailto: LPe...@LP.org
> 9. [8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org

--

--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [9]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft

References

1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
5. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
6. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
7. http://Caryn.An/
8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
9. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 5:02:58 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Joe Bishop-Henchman
I vote no.

I oppose socialism, support property rights, and think syndicalists (to
use a more precise term for them) are naive, wrong, and internally
inconsistent. If one of their tiny number is a candidate for office in
Michigan, I think it's fair if Michigan sought to expel them or remove
them from the ballot. If one of them in a position of LNC authority
espouses views advocating violence or destruction of individual rights,
I think it's fair to consider censure or removal.

Neither is the case here. This resolution either reaffirms our platform
- using some odd language that throws Georgists and mutualists under the
bus too - or it expands our platform and turns the LNC into a purity
police of Libertarian beliefs.

Mr. Olsen mentioned real instances of people hesitant about joining the
party because of the rise of these syndicalists. That gives me pause. If
I were talking to such a person, I'd point out our platform as it stands
and let them know that the weirdo socialists couldn't even fill one
Uber, let alone pose any threat to our party. Would such a person be
more reassured by a "reaffirmed" Platform than the current Platform? Are
our SoP and Platform so weak that this group has managed to shake the
foundations of our Party?

I encounter people all the time who aren't sure what the Libertarian
Party stand for because of our various strains of thought and our
inability to focus on electing candidates. A non-binding resolution
doesn't fix that. It actually makes it worse - signalling that we the
LNC can't keep our eye on electing candidates, or at least on promoting
Libertarian solutions to the problems of the day.

In the four days, Ms. Harlos has written and sent 68 emails on this
matter and Mr. Smith has posted 20 Facebook posts on this matter.
They've decided this is their number one issue and want it to be the
LNC's number one issue.

If we're looking to demonstrate Libertarian relevance to voters, I would
instead suggest one of the following could be our top item for
discussion, action, or marketing this week:

*China announces 25% tariffs on $60 billion worth of U.S. goods, in
response to President Trump considering higher tariffs on $200 billion
worth of Chinese goods. The total negative effect of enacted and
announced tariffs in this tariff war is 465,000 lost jobs and $150
billion less in economic growth.

*The U.S. Senate is poised to approve H.R. 6157, which increases
Pentagon spending to $675 billion for this upcoming year. While federal
spending is being boosted, the U.S. Treasury is expected to borrow $955
billion this year, up from $519 billion last year.

*$1.7 billion was spent on lobbying in Washington, DC in the first six
months of this year, the highest since 2010. There are 9,785 registered
lobbyists in the nation's capital, or 18 for each member of Congress.

*Electric power was restored to the entire island of Puerto Rico today
for the first time since Hurricane Maria hit 328 days ago, a woeful
testament to the commonwealth's dependence on the federal government.

*Wildfires continue to devastate northern California, destroying
thousands of homes and claiming 31 lives. Regulations prohibit timber
companies from clearing out dense forests and removing an estimated 129
million dead trees, leaving a tinder box.

*50 schoolchildren on a field trip were killed and 80 were wounded in a
Saudi airstrike in northern Yemen that hit their bus last Thursday. The
victims were age 6 to 11. U.S. Secretary of State Pompeo, on the phone
with the Saudi Crown Prince a few days later, thanked the Saudis for
their help in Syria and Iraq.

*President Trump revoked the security clearance of one official who has
spoken out against him, and fired an FBI official who spoke out against
him.

*California's Supreme Court struck down San Diego's decision (approved
by 65% of voters) to put city employees into a 401k retirement plan
instead of an antiquated and costly defined benefit pension plan. In DC,
the WMATA transit agency lost a similar arbitration dispute. Taxpayers
will have to pick up the tab in both instances.

*Socialist Venezuela today defaulted on another $1.125 billion in bonds.
Several dozen opposition figures have been rounded up for "questioning"
following a drone assassination attempt on Maduro earlier this month.

*New Zealand banned foreigners from buying property as a way of
"solving" high housing prices. U.S. cities may look at the idea next.

*North Dakota will vote on marijuana legalization, after LP activist
Dave Owen and his org LegalizeND got the issue on the ballot this week.

*And of course, our many great candidates who need donations,
volunteers, and attention as they work to be elected and re-elected.
Imagine how much money we could raise for them or activists we could get
for them if we were e-mailing 68 times or posting 20 Facebook posts
about them instead?

Relating to the last point, over the next few days I'm going to
personally donate $68 each - one for each of Ms. Harlos's emails about
socialist entryism in the last four days - to ten LP candidates in
winnable or ballot-access-important races across the country, and
publicizing it to my network to encourage others to give as well. If all
27 of us were to do the same, that's an injection of $18,360 and a clear
demonstration that this LNC has its priorities in order. If all 27 of us
were to get our networks to do the same, that may make the difference
between winning and not winning. I welcome anyone joining me in this
pledge, regardless of how they vote on this resolution.

JBH

------------
Joe Bishop-Henchman
LNC Member (At-Large)
joe.bisho...@lp.org
www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

> [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to

> the
> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -

> [2]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.


> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>

> 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 2. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 5:14:57 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
I do a weekly fundraising drive for a candidate each week.

If you are going to go to the trouble of counting emails, it would be nice
if you went to the trouble of finding out things that don’t fit your
narrative. You could also do the same for Joshua. He can speak to his own
activities but I know for a fact that you caricature of him as only caring
about this is woefully incorrect.

By the time my promo schedule is done I will have raised as much. We
shouldn’t have to highlight our own candidacy efforts by putting other
people’s efforts down. That is a real issue in this Party.

-Caryn Ann
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 5:25:47 PM8/15/18
to Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business, john.p...@lp.org
Thats $680 total.  In the last 2 weeks I've already donated 500, and committed to another 100 for candidates.  I can find a way to squeeze out another 80.  Sure I m in.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-businessDate: Wed, Aug 15, 2018 4:02 PMTo: lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org;Cc: Joe Bishop-Henchman;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 5:28:49 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Craig Bowden
I vote no.

While I support property rights, this line is what I can't do:unlawful
usurpation of
property

This makes it sound as if "lawful" usurpation is ok, which is employed
through eminent domain.

Craig Bowden
Region 1 Alternate


On 2018-08-15 11:08, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:
> If this resolution merely restates the platform and statement of
> principles, it is redundant.
>
> If it goes beyond the platform and statement of principles, it is
> inappropriate.
>
> In any case, it is a divisive and distracting waste of time to argue
> over who is a "real libertarian."
>
> I vote NO.
>
> Yours in liberty,
> Nick
>
>

_______________________________________________

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 5:36:51 PM8/15/18
to Lnc-Business, Susan Hogarth



I took a quick look at Smith’s fb page and it is indeed almost all about this.



Most disturbing in light of all the this-is-not-a-purge talk is his featuring of this clearly pro-purge fanmail:












Susan Jane Hogarth

Region 5 Alternate

919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)







>
> On Aug 15, 2018 at 5:14 PM, <Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org)> wrote:
>
>
>
> I do a weekly fundraising drive for a candidate each week.
>
> If you are going to go to the trouble of counting emails, it would be
> nice if you went to the trouble of finding out things that don’t fit
> your narrative. You could also do the same for Joshua. He can speak
> to his own activities but I know for a fact that you caricature of him
> as only caring about this is woefully incorrect.
> By the time my promo schedule is done I will have raised as much. We
> shouldn’t have to highlight our own candidacy efforts by putting other
> people’s efforts down. That is a real issue in this Party.
> -Caryn Ann
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:02 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business
> [2]joe.bisho...@lp.org
> [3]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> > [1][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a
> link to
> > the
> > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that
> the
> > manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
> >
> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> -
> > [2]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. [5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 2. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [7]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 3. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 5:39:33 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
My point was that I know for a fact of candidate assistance he is doing.

-Caryn Ann

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:36 PM Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business <
lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I took a quick look at Smith’s fb page and it is indeed almost all
> about this.
>
> Most disturbing in light of all the this-is-not-a-purge talk is his
> featuring of this clearly pro-purge fanmail:
>
> [cid:6F811495-0D5B-4C23-AE16-0AFC39078BD6]
>
> Susan Jane Hogarth
>
> Region 5 Alternate
>
> [1]919-906-2106
>
> On Aug 15, 2018 at 5:14 PM, <[2]Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business>
> References
>
> 1. tel:919-906-2106
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 5:50:02 PM8/15/18
to Lnc-Business, Susan Hogarth



I take it as a given that we are all working hard. I find these “let’s focus on real business” critiques tedious.



I do think we need to worry about a *perception* that we are allotting too much time to posturing, though.




Susan Jane Hogarth

Region 5 Alternate

919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
> > [2]joe.bisho...@lp.org (mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org)
> > [3]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 (http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837)
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org (mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org) or Secr...@LP.org.

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 6:07:46 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
I find the same things tedious. It is activism one-upmanship and having
classes of activism. The guy who has never knocked on a door or given to a
candidate but toils in other ways is not “lesser” but rhetoric can give
that impression.

And the focus on simple monetary amounts can shame those who don’t have
that kind of resource.

The numbers thrown around here are a HUGE amount to some people. Literally
the difference between food and housing and none.

-Caryn Ann


On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:49 PM Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business <
lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I take it as a given that we are all working hard. I find these “let’s
> focus on real business” critiques tedious.
>
> I do think we need to worry about a *perception* that we are allotting
> too much time to posturing, though.
>
> Susan Jane Hogarth
>
> Region 5 Alternate
>
> [1]919-906-2106
> [2][5]joe.bisho...@lp.org
> [3][6]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> > [1][4][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted
> with a
> link to
> > the
> > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time
> that
> the
> > manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
> >
> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary
> -
> > [2]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
> LPe...@LP.org
> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. [5][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 2. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [7]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References
> 1. mailto:[9]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[10]joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 3. [11]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 4. [12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. [13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. mailto:[14]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[15]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> References
> 1. tel:919-906-2106
> 2. mailto:[16]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [17]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:919-906-2106
> 2. mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
> 3. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 5. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 6. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 9. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 10. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 11. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 14. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 15. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 16. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 6:11:12 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, brent...@lp.org
"The numbers thrown around here are a HUGE amount to some people.
Literally the difference between food and housing and none."

Or being in the dog house with the wife, who feels I already spend too
much money on the party... ;)

-Brent

> [2][5][4]joe.bisho...@lp.org
> [3][6][5]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

> > [1][4][7][6]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes

> > 1. [5][8][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> > 2. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary
> - [7]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
> LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References

> 1. mailto:[9][8]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[10][9]joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 3. [11][10]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 4. [12][11]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. [13][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 6. mailto:[14]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[15]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> References
> 1. tel:919-906-2106

> 2. mailto:[16][13]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [17]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References
> 1. tel:919-906-2106

> 2. mailto:[14]caryn.an...@lp.org
> 3. mailto:[15]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:[16]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 5. mailto:[17]joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 6. [18]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 7. [19]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. [20]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 9. mailto:[21]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 10. mailto:[22]joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 11. [23]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 12. [24]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. [25]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 14. mailto:[26]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 15. mailto:[27]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 16. mailto:[28]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:[29]Caryn.An...@LP.org


>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary

> - [30]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.


> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>

> 1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 5. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 6. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 10. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 11. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 14. mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
> 15. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 16. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 18. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 19. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 20. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 21. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 22. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 23. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 24. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 25. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 26. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 27. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 28. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 29. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 30. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 6:33:46 PM8/15/18
to brent...@lp.org, lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
At time in my life that would have been a whole bi-weekly paycheck.

Let be careful to not be poor-shaming here.

-Caryn Ann
> --
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 7:18:40 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair)
I vote No on this motion and I hope the below will help make my thoughts clear on this matter and be useful in construction of future motions.

In accordance with the concerns expressed by the Chairman Sarwark I agree that this Motion by definition does one of two things, reaffirms What has already been affirmed by the platform in which case I rather vote on a Motion that uses the wording from the actual platform than paraphrasing it. If this is seen as an attempt to clarify what people feel isn’t clear then that seems like it should be the proper role of the platform committee to propose amendments for 2020 that will make it clearer. To the extent we conduct policy resolutions, I feel the proper role isn’t to clarify the platform but to apply it the issues of the day (showing how the platform applies to modern discussions of immigration, trade and spending such as the 82 billion of additional military spending)
As put forth by At-Large Rep Mattson I don’t disagree with the substance of the resolution. I do believe property rights are central not only libertarianism but to the functioning of civilization in the world of scarcity. I affirm property rights and many philosophical, economic and otherwise intellectual tenants of libertarianism regularly in my public and private communications. Although I do resent the framing of this to the public by proponents as a litmus test as if this resolution is the only mechanism for stating and affirming our principles and not doing so is tantamount to inviting a socialist mutiny... this kind of characterization is not something I want see in what should be a deliberative body and is enough to earn my no vote to push against such tactics. This concern has little to do the resolution but the tone of the conversation around this resolution on and off the LNC list.
As pointed out by Region 1 Alternate Bowden the way one can possibly read in room for Eminent Domain is unfortunate. I know 6 of you worked long and hard to get this wording and I appreciate that level of work and initiative but why would you make the mistake of rushing this to a vote without getting feedback further from the body in case one or two tweaks were needed (a mistake I’ve learned a few times now). The fact that I agree with the intention of this motion isn’t enough for me look pass its faults. When this first came up I tried to put in my two cents with some possible wording and approaches and then this was proposed almost the very next day.
In accordance with the concerns of At-Large Rep Bishop-Henchman this would be more concerning if a member of this body was espousing Syndicalist beliefs and that local candidates should be addressed directly by their state party. Although if we wanted to disabuse people of the idea that “Rent is Theft” and “Occupation is Ownership” there are much cleaner ways to do so which I will cite soon. I also agree we’d be better served affirming the platform applied to National issues so it can seem relevant and affirming.
I will not vote yes on any policy resolution that doesn’t reference actual National Policy Discussions until after the elections in November. So if we want to be speaking to our principles let’s do so in resolutions that our candidates can actually take to voters, otherwise these are things we can worry about for late November email ballots.
When November does come around and if we want to revisit this let me suggest something more straight to the point.

—————————-

Whereas section 2.1 of the Libertarian Party Reads as follows

“2.1 Property and Contract
As respect for property rights is fundamental to maintaining a free and prosperous society, it follows that the freedom to contract to obtain, retain, profit from, manage, or dispose of one’s property must also be upheld. Libertarians would free property owners from government restrictions on their rights to control and enjoy their property, as long as their choices do not harm or infringe on the rights of others. Eminent domain, civil asset forfeiture, governmental limits on profits, governmental production mandates, and governmental controls on prices of goods and services (including wages, rents, and interest) are abridgements of such fundamental rights. For voluntary dealings among private entities, parties should be free to choose with whom they trade and set whatever trade terms are mutually agreeable.”

It is resolved that rent is not theft and occupation is not ownership.
—————————

Bottom Line: I’m voting against this not so much for the substance of the motion but because it was rushed and the tactics used would set a bad tone for the next few years. For the record for the future, if the marketing of anyone’s motion creates such a divisive environment among members and becomes a distraction I will not hesitate to vote against it. It doesn’t mean we can’t try stuff like this but we need to communicate better with everyone to craft these things and not rush to riling people into a false dichotomy that any particular motion is an end all be all of any discussion.

Side note: I am putting forth such a long explanation of my vote to provide guidance so that the next attempt at this I can vote for because rent is not theft and property rights are a beautiful thing I want to vote Yes on. So please take my criticisms as intended as effort to make our resolutions better, stronger and effective to foster a united and principled front for the party.

To the framers of this resolution I do appreciate the hard work, I don’t want to discourage you from helping people understand what we believe in. I hope you’ll take what I had to say in stride and we can proceed forward a more cohesive, effective AND principled body.


Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

> On Aug 15, 2018, at 6:33 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> At time in my life that would have been a whole bi-weekly paycheck.
>
> Let be careful to not be poor-shaming here.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
>> [2][5][4][5]joe.bisho...@lp.org
>> [3][6][5][6]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> [1][4][7][6][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.
>>> 1. [5][8][7][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 2. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> Secretary
>> - [7]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> LPe...@LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[9][8][9]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 2. mailto:[10][9][10]joe.bisho...@lp.org
>> 3.
> [11][10][11]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 4. [12][11][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 5. [13][12][13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 6. mailto:[14]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 7. mailto:[15]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> References
>> 1. tel:919-906-2106
>> 2. mailto:[16][13][14]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary
>> - [17]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
> LPe...@LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> References
>> 1. tel:919-906-2106
>> 2. mailto:[14][15]caryn.an...@lp.org
>> 3. mailto:[15][16]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 4. mailto:[16][17]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 5. mailto:[17][18]joe.bisho...@lp.org
>> 6. [18][19]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 7. [19][20]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 8. [20][21]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 9. mailto:[21][22]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 10. mailto:[22][23]joe.bisho...@lp.org
>> 11. [23][24]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 12. [24][25]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 13. [25][26]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 14. mailto:[26]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 15. mailto:[27]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 16. mailto:[28][27]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 17. mailto:[29]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> - [30]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:[28]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 2. mailto:[29]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 3. mailto:[30]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 4. mailto:[31]joe.bisho...@lp.org
>> 5. [32]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 6. [33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 7. [34]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 8. mailto:[35]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 9. mailto:[36]joe.bisho...@lp.org
>> 10. [37]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 11. [38]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 12. [39]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 13. mailto:[40]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 14. mailto:[41]caryn.an...@lp.org
>> 15. mailto:[42]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 16. mailto:[43]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 17. mailto:[44]joe.bisho...@lp.org
>> 18. [45]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 19. [46]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 20. [47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 21. mailto:[48]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 22. mailto:[49]joe.bisho...@lp.org
>> 23. [50]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 24. [51]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 25. [52]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 26. mailto:[53]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 27. mailto:[54]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 28. mailto:[55]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 29. mailto:[56]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 30. mailto:[57]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [58]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:brent...@lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 14. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 15. mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 18. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 19. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 20. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 21. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 22. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 23. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 24. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 25. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 26. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 27. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 28. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 29. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 30. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 31. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 32. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 33. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 34. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 35. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 36. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 37. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 38. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 39. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 40. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 41. mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
> 42. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 43. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 44. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 45. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 46. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 47. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 48. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 49. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
> 50. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> 51. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 52. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 53. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 54. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 55. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 56. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 57. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 58. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 8:59:34 PM8/15/18
to Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business, john.p...@lp.org
Well said sir.  Well said.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-businessDate: Wed, Aug 15, 2018 6:18 PMTo: lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org;Cc: Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair);Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION
I vote No on this motion and I hope the below will help make my thoughts clear on this matter and be useful in construction of future motions.

In accordance with the concerns expressed by the Chairman Sarwark I agree that this Motion by definition does one of two things, reaffirms What has already been affirmed by the platform in which case I rather vote on a Motion that uses the wording from the actual platform than paraphrasing it. If this is seen as an attempt to clarify what people feel isn’t clear then that seems like it should be the proper role of the platform committee to propose amendments for 2020 that will make it clearer. To the extent we conduct policy resolutions, I feel the proper role isn’t to clarify the platform but to apply it the issues of the day (showing how the platform applies to modern discussions of immigration, trade and spending such as the 82 billion of additional military spending)
As put forth by At-Large Rep Mattson I don’t disagree with the substance of the resolution. I do believe property rights are central not only libertarianism but to the functioning of civilization in the world of scarcity. I affirm property rights and many philosophical, economic and otherwise intellectual tenants of libertarianism regularly in my public and private communications. Although I do resent the framing of this to the public by proponents as a litmus test as if this resolution is the only mechanism for stating and affirming our principles and not doing so is tantamount to inviting a socialist mutiny... this kind of characterization is not something I want see in what should be a deliberative body and is enough to earn my no vote to push against such tactics. This concern has little to do the resolution but the tone of the conversation around this resolution on and off the LNC list.
As pointed out by Region 1 Alternate Bowden the way one can possibly read in room for Eminent Domain is unfortunate. I know 6 of you worked long and hard to get this wording and I appreciate that level of work and initiative but why would you make the mistake of rushing this to a vote without getting feedback further from the body in case one or two tweaks were needed (a mistake I’ve learned a few times now). The fact that I agree with the intention of this motion isn’t enough for me look pass its faults. When this first came up I tried to put in my two cents with some possible wording and approaches and then this was proposed almost the very next day.
In accordance with the concerns of At-Large Rep Bishop-Henchman this would be more concerning if a member of this body was espousing Syndicalist beliefs and that local candidates should be addressed directly by their state party. Although if we wanted to disabuse people of the idea that “Rent is Theft” and “Occupation is Ownership” there are much cleaner ways to do so which I will cite soon. I also agree we’d be better served affirming the platform applied to National issues so it can seem relevant and affirming.
I will not vote yes on any policy resolution that doesn’t reference actual National Policy Discussions until after the elections in November. So if we want to be speaking to our principles let’s do so in resolutions that our candidates can actually take to voters, otherwise these are things we can worry about for late November email ballots.
When November does come around and if we want to revisit this let me suggest something more straight to the point.

—————————-

Whereas section 2.1 of the Libertarian Party Reads as follows

“2.1 Property and Contract
As respect for property rights is fundamental to maintaining a free and prosperous society, it follows that the freedom to contract to obtain, retain, profit from, manage, or dispose of one’s property must also be upheld. Libertarians would free property owners from government restrictions on their rights to control and enjoy their property, as long as their choices do not harm or infringe on the rights of others. Eminent domain, civil asset forfeiture, governmental limits on profits, governmental production mandates, and governmental controls on prices of goods and services (including wages, rents, and interest) are abridgements of such fundamental rights. For voluntary dealings among private entities, parties should be free to choose with whom they trade and set whatever trade terms are mutually agreeable.”

It is resolved that rent is not theft and occupation is not ownership.
—————————

Bottom Line: I’m voting against this not so much for the substance of the motion but because it was rushed and the tactics used would set a bad tone for the next few years. For the record for the future, if the marketing of anyone’s motion creates such a divisive environment among members and becomes a distraction I will not hesitate to vote against it. It doesn’t mean we can’t try stuff like this but we need to communicate better with everyone to craft these things and not rush to riling people into a false dichotomy that any particular motion is an end all be all of any discussion.

Side note: I am putting forth such a long explanation of my vote to provide guidance so that the next attempt at this I can vote for because rent is not theft and property rights are a beautiful thing I want to vote Yes on. So please take my criticisms as intended as effort to make our resolutions better, stronger and effective to foster a united and principled front for the party.

To the framers of this resolution I do appreciate the hard work, I don’t want to discourage you from helping people understand what we believe in. I hope you’ll take what I had to say in stride and we can proceed forward a more cohesive, effective AND principled body.


Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

I vote No on this motion and I hope the below will help make my
thoughts clear on this matter and be useful in construction of future
motions.

1. In accordance with the concerns expressed by the Chairman Sarwark I
agree that this Motion by definition does one of two things,
reaffirms What has already been affirmed by the platform in which
case I rather vote on a Motion that uses the wording from the
actual platform than paraphrasing it. If this is seen as an attempt
to clarify what people feel isn’t clear then that seems like it
should be the proper role of the platform committee to propose
amendments for 2020 that will make it clearer. To the extent we
conduct policy resolutions, I feel the proper role isn’t to clarify
the platform but to apply it the issues of the day (showing how the
platform applies to modern discussions of immigration, trade and
spending such as the 82 billion of additional military spending)
2. As put forth by At-Large Rep Mattson I don’t disagree with the
substance of the resolution. I do believe property rights are
central not only libertarianism but to the functioning of
civilization in the world of scarcity. I affirm property rights and
many philosophical, economic and otherwise intellectual tenants of
libertarianism regularly in my public and private communications.
Although I do resent the framing of this to the public by
proponents as a litmus test as if this resolution is the only
mechanism for stating and affirming our principles and not doing so
is tantamount to inviting a socialist mutiny... this kind of
characterization is not something I want see in what should be a
deliberative body and is enough to earn my no vote to push against
such tactics. This concern has little to do the resolution but the
tone of the conversation around this resolution on and off the LNC
list.
3. As pointed out by Region 1 Alternate Bowden the way one can
possibly read in room for Eminent Domain is unfortunate. I know 6
of you worked long and hard to get this wording and I appreciate
that level of work and initiative but why would you make the
mistake of rushing this to a vote without getting feedback further
from the body in case one or two tweaks were needed (a mistake I’ve
learned a few times now). The fact that I agree with the intention
of this motion isn’t enough for me look pass its faults. When this
first came up I tried to put in my two cents with some possible
wording and approaches and then this was proposed almost the very
next day.
4. In accordance with the concerns of At-Large Rep Bishop-Henchman
this would be more concerning if a member of this body was
espousing Syndicalist beliefs and that local candidates should be
addressed directly by their state party. Although if we wanted to
disabuse people of the idea that “Rent is Theft” and “Occupation is
Ownership” there are much cleaner ways to do so which I will cite
soon. I also agree we’d be better served affirming the platform
applied to National issues so it can seem relevant and affirming.
5. I will not vote yes on any policy resolution that doesn’t reference
actual National Policy Discussions until after the elections in
November. So if we want to be speaking to our principles let’s do
so in resolutions that our candidates can actually take to voters,
otherwise these are things we can worry about for late November
email ballots.
6. When November does come around and if we want to revisit this let
<[1]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

At time in my life that would have been a whole bi-weekly paycheck.
Let be careful to not be poor-shaming here.
-Caryn Ann
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 4:11 PM <[1][2]brent...@lp.org> wrote:
"The numbers thrown around here are a HUGE amount to some people.
Literally the difference between food and housing and none."
Or being in the dog house with the wife, who feels I already spend
too
much money on the party... ;)
-Brent
On 2018-08-15 15:07, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:

I find the same things tedious. It is activism one-upmanship and

having classes of activism. The guy who has never knocked on a

door

or

given to a candidate but toils in other ways is not “lesser”

but

rhetoric can give that impression.

And the focus on simple monetary amounts can shame those who

don’t

have

that kind of resource.

The numbers thrown around here are a HUGE amount to some

people.

Literally the difference between food and housing and none.

-Caryn Ann

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:49 PM Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business

<[1][2][3]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

I take it as a given that we are all working hard. I find

these

“let’s

focus on real business” critiques tedious.

I do think we need to worry about a *perception* that we

are

allotting

too much time to posturing, though.

Susan Jane Hogarth

Region 5 Alternate

[1]919-906-2106

On Aug 15, 2018 at 5:39 PM, <[2]Caryn Ann Harlos> wrote:

My point was that I know for a fact of candidate

assistance he

is

doing.

-Caryn Ann

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:36 PM Susan Hogarth via

Lnc-business

[2][5][4][5][6]joe.bisho...@lp.org

[3][6][5][6][7]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
[1][4][7][6][7][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.

Votes

are

noted

with a

link to

the

actual ballot cast for verification. You can

find

the

time

that

the

manual tally was last updated at the bottom of

the

sheet.

Please notify me of any discrepancies.

--

In Liberty,

Caryn Ann Harlos

Libertarian Party and Libertarian National

Committee

Secretary

-

[2]Caryn.Ann. [9]Har...@LP.org or

[10]Secr...@LP.org.

Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -

[11]LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

We defend your rights

And oppose the use of force

Taxation is theft

References

1. [5][8][7][8][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

2. mailto:[6][13]Caryn.An...@LP.org

--

--

In Liberty,

Caryn Ann Harlos

Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee

Secretary

- [7]Caryn.Ann. [14]Har...@LP.org or
[15]Secr...@LP.org.

Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -

[16]LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

We defend your rights

And oppose the use of force

Taxation is theft

References

1. mailto:[9][8][9][17]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

2. mailto:[10][9][10][18]joe.bisho...@lp.org

3.

[11][10][11][19]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

4. [12][11][12][20]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

5. [13][12][13][21]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

6. mailto:[14][22]Caryn.An...@LP.org

7. mailto:[15][23]Caryn.An...@LP.org

References

1. [24]tel:919-906-2106

2. mailto:[16][13][14][25]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

--

--

In Liberty,

Caryn Ann Harlos

Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee

Secretary

- [17]Caryn.Ann. [26]Har...@LP.org or [27]Secr...@LP.org.

Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -

[28]LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

We defend your rights

And oppose the use of force

Taxation is theft

References

1. [29]tel:919-906-2106

2. mailto:[14][15][30]caryn.an...@lp.org

3. mailto:[15][16][31]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

4. mailto:[16][17][32]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

5. mailto:[17][18][33]joe.bisho...@lp.org

6. [18][19][34]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

7. [19][20][35]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

8. [20][21][36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

9. mailto:[21][22][37]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

10. mailto:[22][23][38]joe.bisho...@lp.org

11. [23][24][39]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

12. [24][25][40]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

13. [25][26][41]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

14. mailto:[26][42]Caryn.An...@LP.org

15. mailto:[27][43]Caryn.An...@LP.org

16. mailto:[28][27][44]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

17. mailto:[29][45]Caryn.An...@LP.org

--

--

In Liberty,

Caryn Ann Harlos

Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary

- [30]Caryn.Ann. [46]Har...@LP.org or [47]Secr...@LP.org.

Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - [48]LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

We defend your rights

And oppose the use of force

Taxation is theft

References

1. mailto:[28][49]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

2. mailto:[29][50]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

3. mailto:[30][51]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

4. mailto:[31][52]joe.bisho...@lp.org

5. [32][53]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

6. [33][54]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

7. [34][55]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

8. mailto:[35][56]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

9. mailto:[36][57]joe.bisho...@lp.org

10. [37][58]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

11. [38][59]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

12. [39][60]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

13. mailto:[40][61]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

14. mailto:[41][62]caryn.an...@lp.org

15. mailto:[42][63]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

16. mailto:[43][64]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

17. mailto:[44][65]joe.bisho...@lp.org

18. [45][66]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

19. [46][67]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

20. [47][68]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

21. mailto:[48][69]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

22. mailto:[49][70]joe.bisho...@lp.org

23. [50][71]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

24. [51][72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

25. [52][73]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

26. mailto:[53][74]Caryn.An...@LP.org

27. mailto:[54][75]Caryn.An...@LP.org

28. mailto:[55][76]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

29. mailto:[56][77]Caryn.An...@LP.org

30. mailto:[57][78]Caryn.An...@LP.org

--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [58]Caryn.Ann. [79]Har...@LP.org or [80]Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - [81]LPe...@LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. [82]mailto:brent...@lp.org
2. [83]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
3. [84]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
4. [85]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
5. [86]mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
6. [87]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
7. [88]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
8. [89]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
9. [90]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
10. [91]mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
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28. [109]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
29. [110]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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31. [112]mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
32. [113]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
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36. [117]mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
37. [118]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
38. [119]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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40. [121]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
41. [122]mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
42. [123]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
43. [124]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
44. [125]mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
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47. [128]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
48. [129]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
49. [130]mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
50. [131]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
51. [132]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
52. [133]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
53. [134]mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
54. [135]mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
55. [136]mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
56. [137]mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
57. [138]mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
58. [139]mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org

References

1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
2. mailto:brent...@lp.org
5. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
6. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
7. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
9. mailto:Har...@LP.org
10. mailto:Secr...@LP.org
11. mailto:LPe...@LP.org
12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
13. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
14. mailto:Har...@LP.org
15. mailto:Secr...@LP.org
16. mailto:LPe...@LP.org
22. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
23. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
24. tel:919-906-2106
25. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
26. mailto:Har...@LP.org
27. mailto:Secr...@LP.org
28. mailto:LPe...@LP.org
29. tel:919-906-2106
30. mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
31. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
32. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
33. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
34. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
35. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
36. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
37. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
38. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
39. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
40. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
41. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
42. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
43. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
44. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
45. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
46. mailto:Har...@LP.org
47. mailto:Secr...@LP.org
48. mailto:LPe...@LP.org
49. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
50. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
51. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
52. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
53. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
54. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
55. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
56. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
57. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
58. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
59. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
60. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
61. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
62. mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
63. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
64. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
65. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
66. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
67. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
68. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
69. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
70. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
71. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
72. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
73. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
74. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
75. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
76. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
77. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
78. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
79. mailto:Har...@LP.org
80. mailto:Secr...@LP.org
81. mailto:LPe...@LP.org
82. mailto:brent...@lp.org
83. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
84. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
85. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
86. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
87. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
88. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
89. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
90. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
91. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
92. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
93. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
94. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
95. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
96. mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
97. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
98. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
99. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
100. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
101. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
102. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
103. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
104. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
105. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
106. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
107. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
108. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
109. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
110. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
111. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
112. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
113. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
114. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
115. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
116. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
117. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
118. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
119. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
120. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
121. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
122. mailto:caryn.an...@lp.org
123. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
124. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
125. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
126. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
127. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
128. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
129. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
130. mailto:joe.bisho...@lp.org
131. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
132. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
133. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
134. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
135. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
136. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
137. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
138. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
139. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 15, 2018, 11:58:44 PM8/15/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Sam Goldstein, Caryn Ann Harlos
I vote No.

The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly illustrate our
position on Property Rights and I fully support them.

---
Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell

On 2018-08-15 06:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> BALLOT CORRECTION: Expiration date is AUGUST 22, 2018.
> My mind has been left in July. September will really throw it for a
> loop.

> [2]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to

> the
> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -

> [3]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.


> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -

> [4]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.


> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>

> 1. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 2. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 3. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 4. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 8:02:01 AM8/16/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Richard Longstreth, Caryn Ann Harlos
But not enough to vote in favor of affirming them? I'm confused...

Richard
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.l...@lp.org
931.538.9300

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 8:23:19 AM8/16/18
to Lnc-Business, Susan Hogarth



Please stop this. It is -incredibly- rude and destructive.



I don’t know what’s worse - the people saying that the supporters of this resolution are calling for a purge, or the people saying that those who oppose it don’t support the Party’s principles.



A resolution may sound like a straightforward declaration of principle, but they are always issued for strategic reasons. The fact that some people disagree with your strategy does not mean they oppose your principles or indeed even goals. It’s very destructive to behave as if they do.



Give the reasons for your preferred strategy. Argue passionately for it. But stop accusing your allies of being your enemies.





Susan Jane Hogarth

Region 5 Alternate

919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
> > [2][3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a
> > 1. mailto:[4]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 2. [5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 3. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 4. mailto:[7]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> --
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [8]richard.l...@lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 8. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
>
>

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 9:30:26 AM8/16/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
Asking questions is not rude. Insisting he doesn’t is.

-Caryn Ann

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:23 AM Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business <
lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Please stop this. It is -incredibly- rude and destructive.
>
> I don’t know what’s worse - the people saying that the supporters of
> this resolution are calling for a purge, or the people saying that
> those who oppose it don’t support the Party’s principles.
>
> A resolution may sound like a straightforward declaration of principle,
> but they are always issued for strategic reasons. The fact that some
> people disagree with your strategy does not mean they oppose your
> principles or indeed even goals. It’s very destructive to behave as if
> they do.
>
> Give the reasons for your preferred strategy. Argue passionately for
> it. But stop accusing your allies of being your enemies.
>
> Susan Jane Hogarth
>
> Region 5 Alternate
>
> [1]919-906-2106
>
> On Aug 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM, <[2]Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business>
> References
>
> 1. tel:919-906-2106
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 9:36:34 AM8/16/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Richard Longstreth
Susan, if you are referring to my comment, that is not what I said at all.
If someone believes in property rights and supports the resolution, I'm not
sure why they would vote against it. Simple as that. Waste of time or not,
it is a resolution before us and one that either you support or do not. If
you think it is a waste of time, discourage similar resolutions in the
future. This is balloted, however, and must be voted on. You (collective
sense) either agree with it or you do not. There is no in between.

Richard
> [1]919-906-2106 <(919)%20906-2106>
> On Aug 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM, <[2]Richard Longstreth via
> Lnc-business>
> wrote:
> But not enough to vote in favor of affirming them? I'm
> confused...
> Richard
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 22:58 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
> <[1][2]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I vote No.
> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly illustrate
> our
> position on Property Rights and I fully support them.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Cell
> > [2][3][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted
> > 1. mailto:[4][5]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 2. [5][6]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 3. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 4. mailto:[7]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [8][7]richard.l...@lp.org
> 931.538.9300 <(931)%20538-9300>
> References
> 1. mailto:[8]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[9]carynan...@gmail.com
> 3. [10]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[11]carynan...@gmail.com
> 5. [12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. mailto:[13]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[14]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 8. mailto:[15]richard.l...@lp.org
> References
> 1. tel:919-906-2106 <(919)%20906-2106>
> 2. mailto:[16]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [17]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 8. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 10. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 11. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 15. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.l...@lp.org
931.538.9300

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 9:36:59 AM8/16/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Jeff Hewitt, Caryn Ann Harlos
I vote no. Jeff Hewitt Region 4 Rep

On 2018-08-15 20:58, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
> I vote No.
>
> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly illustrate our
> position on Property Rights and I fully support them.
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee

> 317-850-0726 Cell

>> [2]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 10:28:11 AM8/16/18
to Lnc-Business, Steven Nekhaila



Dear Colleagues,



I would like to remind everyone to please focus on the resolution itself, we are voting on a very specifi set of text and nothing outside of that will be relevant once the votes are tallied.



In Liberty,


Steven Nekhaila

Region 2 Representative



impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt

“Those without power cannot defend freedom”







>
> On Aug 16, 2018 at 9:36 AM, <Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org)> wrote:
>
>
>
> Susan, if you are referring to my comment, that is not what I said at
> all. If someone believes in property rights and supports the
> resolution, I'm not sure why they would vote against it. Simple as
> that. Waste of time or not, it is a resolution before us and one that
> either you support or do not. If you think it is a waste of time,
> discourage similar resolutions in the future. This is balloted,
> however, and must be voted on. You (collective sense) either agree with
> it or you do not. There is no in between.
> Richard
>
> [3][1]919-906-2106
> On Aug 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM, <[2]Richard Longstreth via
> Lnc-business>
> wrote:
> But not enough to vote in favor of affirming them? I'm
> confused...
> Richard
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 22:58 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
> <[1][2][4]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I vote No.
> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly
> illustrate
> our
> position on Property Rights and I fully support them.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> [5]317-850-0726 Cell
> > [2][3][4][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are
> > 1. mailto:[4][5][8]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 2. [5][6][9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 3. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 4. mailto:[7]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [8][7][10]richard.l...@lp.org
> [11]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[8][12]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[9][13]carynan...@gmail.com
> 3. [10][14]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[11][15]carynan...@gmail.com
> 5. [12][16]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. mailto:[13]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[14]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 8. mailto:[15][17]richard.l...@lp.org
> References
> 1. tel:[18]919-906-2106
> 2. mailto:[16][19]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [17]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References
> 1. mailto:[20]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[21]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:[22]carynan...@gmail.com
> 4. [23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:[24]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [25]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto:[26]richard.l...@lp.org
> 8. mailto:[27]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:[28]carynan...@gmail.com
> 10. [29]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 11. mailto:[30]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [31]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. mailto:[32]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 14. mailto:[33]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 15. mailto:[34]richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:[35]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:[36]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> --
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [37]richard.l...@lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. tel:(919) 906-2106
> 4. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 5. tel:(317) 850-0726
> 6. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 11. tel:(931) 538-9300
> 12. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 13. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 16. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 17. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 18. tel:(919) 906-2106
> 19. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 20. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 21. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 22. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 23. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 24. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 25. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 26. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 27. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 28. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 29. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 30. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 31. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 32. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 33. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 34. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 35. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 36. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 37. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
>

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 5:01:55 PM8/16/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, joshua...@lp.org
Good afternoon everyone,

Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the right to own
property.

46 years ago, a few people in a living room in Colorado knew that these
4 things were what would create a free society. They put their heart and
soul in to creating a vessel to get us there. They bled, they argued,
they lost sleep, they wrote, and they laid a foundation that would
eventually create the Libertarian Party. The place that all of us here
call home today. A place for the principled to go and fight back.

They did this as a direct opposition to tyranny. They did this because
people in this country yearn to be free. They knew that people in this
country live their lives every day under an oppressive rule, and they
suffer heavily from Stockholm Syndrome. They created this party to wake
people up, and show them what a free society could look like for them.
The founders of this party had and still have intestinal fortitude. They
stood up to tyranny. They looked it directly in the face, and asserted
that it would not break us. They STOOD ON PRINCIPLE, always.

Today, I stand witness to members on this board kowtowing to tyranny. I
am watching you open up this party to the exact types it was created to
defeat: Bullies who wish to prevent a free society, collectivists who
refute the rights of the individual, those who would contend that you
don't have the right to own a summer home or an extra car, and people
who will take your things. Communists and socialists, ideologies that
have literally killed more than 100 million people in the name of "the
greater good". I am ashamed to lay witness to leaders of this party who
act like that doesn't matter. This resolution was written in a style
that leaves it open for advocates of antithetical economic values to
participate, as long as they push for a voluntary model. The "lawful"
part many of you are upset about is an appeal to natural law- the law
that governs our rights. Those same rights that exist in the state of
nature, prior to, and in the complete absence of a state. What it did
not do is give those who wish to twist our principles into violence
against property and business owners even a single inch of wiggle room
to operate inside of our party, or our on platform. It was solid, and
worded exactly how it needed to be.

Many of you ask "Why are we giving credence to 6 people in the party who
are whackos"? It's because it's not just 6 of them. I have personally
been in the trenches of this battle for the heart and soul of this party
for a year. They are recruiting. They are telling media and the public
that we support violence, the abolition of property and capital, and
terrible policy points like "Medicare for all". One of them did this on
RT; many of them are doing it through candidate statements. They are not
only driving good members and volunteers to leave, but they are
destroying our outreach. This resolution demonstrates to the outer
circle of this party, and the thousands and thousands of small l
libertarians that we care about principle, that we will not be bullied.
Standing up to tyranny is what Harry Browne did. It's what David Nolan,
and John Hospers, Ed Crane, Tonie Nathan, and Murray Rothbard did. These
great men and women who took up swords and said no more. Where is the
fight in you? Have that many of you really lost your way? Are you really
scared to reaffirm our stance on property in a way that secures our
party and principles from tyranny? We are always crying about people not
doing enough, and we can't even come together on something as simple as
strengthening our principles? What manner of example do you want to set?

I unequivocally vote yes on this resolution. We have until Wednesday
night to show the party that we wont be bullied, or cater to communists
and socialists. There is still time to prove that you have the
intestinal fortitude to say "enough".

I hope you will make the right decision in the eyes of our candidates,
local and state leaders, and hard-working volunteers across the country
who deserve a national leadership team that will undoubtedly stand on
our principles, always and without hesitation.


Thank you,
Joshua D. Smith
LNC At Large
Joshua...@LP.ORG

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 5:34:14 PM8/16/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
Agreed in every point.


I will add, the resolution purposefully makes sure that anything that is
undertaken voluntarily that does not deny anyone’s property rights is
perfectly in line with Party principles (at least on that point - if they
are voluntary racists or bigots we have a different issue).

Voluntary communalists are not an issue. In my single days I looked into
joining a semi commune! I’m a left of center hippy born in the wrong age.

-Caryn Ann
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 7:36:09 PM8/16/18
to Lnc-Business, Steven Nekhaila







Dear colleagues,





I for one will never stop fighting for liberty, and that includes property rights. To those who have voted aye, I commend you. To those who have voted no, please realize the message this conveys to our members. In the end, the discussions don’t matter, only the message.



In Liberty,


Steven Nekhaila

Region 2 Representative



impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt

“Those without power cannot defend freedom”







>

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 7:48:01 PM8/16/18
to Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business, john.p...@lp.org
I am pefectly comfortable with the message I am sending.  Loud and proud.  Thanks for reminding me!
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-businessDate: Thu, Aug 16, 2018 6:36 PMTo: Lnc-Business;Cc: Steven Nekhaila;Subject:[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION
Dear colleagues,
I for one will never stop fighting for liberty, and that includes
property rights. To those who have voted aye, I commend you. To those
who have voted no, please realize the message this conveys to our
members. In the end, the discussions don’t matter, only the message.
In Liberty,
Steven Nekhaila
Region 2 Representative
impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt
“Those without power cannot defend freedom”

On Aug 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM, <[1]joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business>
References

1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 8:13:09 PM8/16/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
That is true.

And offline there’s a workgroup for alternate wording. Let Alex know if
you want an invite.

I also am having a discussion with someone who claims the socialist label
(a misnomer imho but people can identify as a peanut butter sandwich for
all I care) but rejects the issues we also reject.

My concern is ONLY this: a rejection of property rights. I do not care
what consenting people decide to voluntarily waive or expand. (That’s a
generalization because obviously an all whites property could be allowed
but I would care very much - I just wouldn’t use force).

The loudest rabble rousers are those who are deflecting from the fact they
do deny property rights and are skilled in Alinsky tactics.

Caught in the middle are voluntaryists with different preferences than
standard property rights. I have opened dialog with people of this group
who is just as appalled as the agression and mob tactics being associated
with their view.

-Caryn Ann




On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:47 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I am pefectly comfortable with the message I am sending. Loud and
> proud. Thanks for reminding me!
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [1]217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> >[2] Joshua...@LP.ORG
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Dear colleagues,
> I for one will never stop fighting for liberty, and that includes
> property rights. To those who have voted aye, I commend you. To those
> who have voted no, please realize the message this conveys to our
> members. In the end, the discussions don’t matter, only the message.
> In Liberty,
> Steven Nekhaila
> Region 2 Representative
> impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt
> “Those without power cannot defend freedom”
>
> On Aug 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM, <[1][3]joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business>
> LNC At Large[4]
> Joshua...@LP.ORG
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto[5]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:217-412-5973
> 2. mailto: Joshua...@LP.ORG
> 3. http://joshua.sm/
> 4. mailto:
> Joshua...@LP.ORG
> 5. mailto::lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 11:05:50 PM8/16/18
to John Phillips, Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business, Steven Nekhaila



You leave little room for doubt. Alas, I look forward to working with you on other endeavors to mutually benefit the party.



In Liberty,


Steven Nekhaila

Region 2 Representative



impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt

“Those without power cannot defend freedom”







>
> On Aug 16, 2018 at 7:47 PM, <John Phillips (mailto:john.p...@lp.org)> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I am pefectly comfortable with the message I am sending. Loud and proud. Thanks for reminding me!
>
>
>
>
> John Phillips
>
>
>
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>
>
>
> Cell 217-412-5973 (tel:217-412-5973)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------ Original message------
>
> From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business
>
> Date: Thu, Aug 16, 2018 6:36 PM
>
> To: Lnc-Business;
>
> Cc: Steven Nekhaila;
>
> Subject:[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION
>
>
>
> Dear colleagues, I for one will never stop fighting for liberty, and that includes property rights. To those who have voted aye, I commend you. To those who have voted no, please realize the message this conveys to our members. In the end, the discussions don’t matter, only the message. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt “Those without power cannot defend freedom” > > On Aug 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM, wrote: > > > > Good afternoon everyone, > > Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the right to own > property. > > 46 years ago, a few people in a living room in Colorado knew that these > 4 things were what would create a free society. They put their heart and > soul in to creating a vessel to get us there. They bled, they argued, > they lost sleep, they wrote, and they laid a foundation that would > eventually create the Libertarian Party. The place that all of us here > call home today. A place for the principled to go and fight back. > > They did this as a direct opposition to tyranny. They did this because > people in this country yearn to be free. They knew that people in this > country live their lives every day under an oppressive rule, and they > suffer heavily from Stockholm Syndrome. They created this party to wake > people up, and show them what a free society could look like for them. > The founders of this party had and still have intestinal fortitude. They > stood up to tyranny. They looked it directly in the face, and asserted > that it would not break us. They STOOD ON PRINCIPLE, always. > > Today, I stand witness to members on this board kowtowing to tyranny. I > am watching you open up this party to the exact types it was created to > defeat: Bullies who wish to prevent a free society, collectivists who > refute the rights of the individual, those who would contend that you > don't have the right to own a summer home or an extra car, and people > who will take your things. Communists and socialists, ideologies that > have literally killed more than 100 million people in the name of "the > greater good". I am ashamed to lay witness to leaders of this party who > act like that doesn't matter. This resolution was written in a style > that leaves it open for advocates of antithetical economic values to > participate, as long as they push for a voluntary model. The "lawful" > part many of you are upset about is an appeal to natural law- the law > that governs our rights. Those same rights that exist in the state of > nature, prior to, and in the complete absence of a state. What it did > not do is give those who wish to twist our principles into violence > against property and business owners even a single inch of wiggle room > to operate inside of our party, or our on platform. It was solid, and > worded exactly how it needed to be. > > Many of you ask "Why are we giving credence to 6 people in the party who > are whackos"? It's because it's not just 6 of them. I have personally > been in the trenches of this battle for the heart and soul of this party > for a year. They are recruiting. They are telling media and the public > that we support violence, the abolition of property and capital, and > terrible policy points like "Medicare for all". One of them did this on > RT; many of them are doing it through candidate statements. They are not > only driving good members and volunteers to leave, but they are > destroying our outreach. This resolution demonstrates to the outer > circle of this party, and the thousands and thousands of small l > libertarians that we care about principle, that we will not be bullied. > Standing up to tyranny is what Harry Browne did. It's what David Nolan, > and John Hospers, Ed Crane, Tonie Nathan, and Murray Rothbard did. These > great men and women who took up swords and said no more. Where is the > fight in you? Have that many of you really lost your way? Are you really > scared to reaffirm our stance on property in a way that secures our > party and principles from tyranny? We are always crying about people not > doing enough, and we can't even come together on something as simple as > strengthening our principles? What manner of example do you want to set? > > I unequivocally vote yes on this resolution. We have until Wednesday > night to show the party that we wont be bullied, or cater to communists > and socialists. There is still time to prove that you have the > intestinal fortitude to say "enough". > > I hope you will make the right decision in the eyes of our candidates, > local and state leaders, and hard-working volunteers across the country > who deserve a national leadership team that will undoubtedly stand on > our principles, always and without hesitation. > > > Thank you, > Joshua D. Smith > LNC At Large >Joshua...@LP.ORG (mailto:%20Joshu...@LP.ORG) > > Dear colleagues, I for one will never stop fighting for liberty, and that includes property rights. To those who have voted aye, I commend you. To those who have voted no, please realize the message this conveys to our members. In the end, the discussions don’t matter, only the message. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt “Those without power cannot defend freedom” On Aug 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM, <[1]joshua.sm (http://joshua.sm)ith--- via Lnc-business> wrote: Good afternoon everyone, Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the right to own property. 46 years ago, a few people in a living room in Colorado knew that these 4 things were what would create a free society. They put their heart and soul in to creating a vessel to get us there. They bled, they argued, they lost sleep, they wrote, and they laid a foundation that would eventually create the Libertarian Party. The place that all of us here call home today. A place for the principled to go and fight back. They did this as a direct opposition to tyranny. They did this because people in this country yearn to be free. They knew that people in this country live their lives every day under an oppressive rule, and they suffer heavily from Stockholm Syndrome. They created this party to wake people up, and show them what a free society could look like for them. The founders of this party had and still have intestinal fortitude. They stood up to tyranny. They looked it directly in the face, and asserted that it would not break us. They STOOD ON PRINCIPLE, always. Today, I stand witness to members on this board kowtowing to tyranny. I am watching you open up this party to the exact types it was created to defeat: Bullies who wish to prevent a free society, collectivists who refute the rights of the individual, those who would contend that you don't have the right to own a summer home or an extra car, and people who will take your things. Communists and socialists, ideologies that have literally killed more than 100 million people in the name of "the greater good". I am ashamed to lay witness to leaders of this party who act like that doesn't matter. This resolution was written in a style that leaves it open for advocates of antithetical economic values to participate, as long as they push for a voluntary model. The "lawful" part many of you are upset about is an appeal to natural law- the law that governs our rights. Those same rights that exist in the state of nature, prior to, and in the complete absence of a state. What it did not do is give those who wish to twist our principles into violence against property and business owners even a single inch of wiggle room to operate inside of our party, or our on platform. It was solid, and worded exactly how it needed to be. Many of you ask "Why are we giving credence to 6 people in the party who are whackos"? It's because it's not just 6 of them. I have personally been in the trenches of this battle for the heart and soul of this party for a year. They are recruiting. They are telling media and the public that we support violence, the abolition of property and capital, and terrible policy points like "Medicare for all". One of them did this on RT; many of them are doing it through candidate statements. They are not only driving good members and volunteers to leave, but they are destroying our outreach. This resolution demonstrates to the outer circle of this party, and the thousands and thousands of small l libertarians that we care about principle, that we will not be bullied. Standing up to tyranny is what Harry Browne did. It's what David Nolan, and John Hospers, Ed Crane, Tonie Nathan, and Murray Rothbard did. These great men and women who took up swords and said no more. Where is the fight in you? Have that many of you really lost your way? Are you really scared to reaffirm our stance on property in a way that secures our party and principles from tyranny? We are always crying about people not doing enough, and we can't even come together on something as simple as strengthening our principles? What manner of example do you want to set? I unequivocally vote yes on this resolution. We have until Wednesday night to show the party that we wont be bullied, or cater to communists and socialists. There is still time to prove that you have the intestinal fortitude to say "enough". I hope you will make the right decision in the eyes of our candidates, local and state leaders, and hard-working volunteers across the country who deserve a national leadership team that will undoubtedly stand on our principles, always and without hesitation. Thank you, Joshua D. Smith LNC At LargeJos...@LP.ORG (mailto:Joshua...@LP.ORG) References 1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org (mailto::lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org)
>
>
>


lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 16, 2018, 11:29:57 PM8/16/18
to Lnc-Business, Steven Nekhaila

Dear Colleagues,





I just caught news that the US Senate has unanimously passed a resolution upholding the right to free speech against Trump. Let me ask the members of this body one thing, if a body (the US Senate) that clearly doesn’t protect the right of free speech can unanimously pass a resolution upholding free speech, despite the fact that it is redundantly in the Constitution, what is stopping us from re-affirming our beliefs in private property? Is it truly redundant? Or are we treating our SoP and Platform as a living document? I hope it’s the former. Finally, I know very well our candidates will put up a fight in a way the senate has overtly failed to protect our rights, and I believe they would have supported such a resolution on the senate floor and meant it immensley with all of the fire in their heart.

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 17, 2018, 4:18:17 AM8/17/18
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I vote no




Susan Jane Hogarth

Region 5 Alternate

919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 17, 2018, 10:06:52 AM8/17/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos, William Redpath
I vote No. Bill Redpath

On 2018-08-16 09:36, Jeff Hewitt via Lnc-business wrote:
> I vote no. Jeff Hewitt Region 4 Rep
>

> On 2018-08-15 20:58, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>> I vote No.
>>
>> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly illustrate our
>> position on Property Rights and I fully support them.
>>
>> ---
>> Sam Goldstein
>> Libertarian National Committee

>>> [2]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to

>>> the
>>> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that
>>> the
>>> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>>>
>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>>> --
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos

>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -

>>> [3]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.


>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

>>> We defend your rights
>>> And oppose the use of force
>>> Taxation is theft
>>>
>>> --
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos

>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -

>>> [4]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.


>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

>>> We defend your rights
>>> And oppose the use of force
>>> Taxation is theft
>>>
>>> References
>>>

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 17, 2018, 11:32:21 AM8/17/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Whitney Bilyeu
Richard says, "You (collective sense) either agree with
it or you do not. There is no in between."

I disagree...there are times when I agree with the spirit of a resolution,
but not the specific language. There are also times when I agree with some
language of the motion, but not all, and question the spirit of it. And
there are times when I agree with the specific language, but not the spirit
in which it was presented. There are many in-betweens.

Each of us has our own reason for voting as we see fit, and each of us is
responsible for explaining ourselves (or not).

No one else gets to decide why we vote the way we vote, or what our
intentions were in doing so. I reject the the notion that we are against
something if we aren't for it (and vice versa).

As a Libertarian, I struggle daily with folks who think that if I don't
vote their way, then my vote is wasted. Our candidates face this every
election cycle...if you vote for C, you might as well be voting for B
instead of A. We have a bond election underway right now about flood
control...the message out there is that if you vote against the bond, you
must want people to continue losing life and limb to flood waters. Really?
This kind of thinking is naive, simple-minded, and reckless.

Whitney



On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Susan, if you are referring to my comment, that is not what I said at
> all. If someone believes in property rights and supports the
> resolution, I'm not sure why they would vote against it. Simple as
> that. Waste of time or not, it is a resolution before us and one that
> either you support or do not. If you think it is a waste of time,
> discourage similar resolutions in the future. This is balloted,
> however, and must be voted on. You (collective sense) either agree with
> it or you do not. There is no in between.
> Richard
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:30 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> <[1]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Asking questions is not rude. Insisting he doesn’t is.
> -Caryn Ann
> Susan Jane Hogarth
> Region 5 Alternate
> [3][1]919-906-2106
> On Aug 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM, <[2]Richard Longstreth via
> Lnc-business>
> wrote:
> But not enough to vote in favor of affirming them? I'm
> confused...
> Richard
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 22:58 Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business
> <[1][2][4]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I vote No.
> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly
> illustrate
> our
> position on Property Rights and I fully support them.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> [5]317-850-0726 Cell
> > [2][3][4][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [17]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References
--
*Whitney Bilyeu*
Libertarian National Committee
Region 7 Representative
281.433.4966

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 17, 2018, 11:54:59 AM8/17/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Richard Longstreth
Fair point Whitney and very valid. Thank you for correcting my comment.
There are indeed times when you may agree in spirit but not wording and I
get that. I am all for working together to come up with a better version
down the road if this fails.

Richard
> <[1][2][4][4]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I vote No.
> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly
> illustrate
> our
> position on Property Rights and I fully support them.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> [5]317-850-0726 Cell
> On 2018-08-15 06:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
> Lnc-business
> wrote:
> > BALLOT CORRECTION: Expiration date is AUGUST 22,
> 2018.
> > My mind has been left in July. September will
> really
> throw it
> for a
> > loop.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Caryn Ann
> Harlos
>
> > [2][3][4][7][6]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.
> > 1. mailto:[4][5][8][7]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 2. [5][6][9][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 3. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 4. mailto:[7]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR,
> HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [8][7][10][9]richard.l...@lp.org
> [11]931.538.9300 <(931)%20538-9300>
> References
> 1. mailto:[8][12][10]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[9][13][11]carynan...@gmail.com
> 3. [10][14][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[11][15][13]carynan...@gmail.com
> 5. [12][16][14]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. mailto:[13]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[14]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 8. mailto:[15][17][15]richard.l...@lp.org
> References
> 1. tel:[18]919-906-2106
> 2. mailto:[16][19][16]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary
> - [17]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References
> 1. mailto:[20][17]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[21][18]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:[22][19]carynan...@gmail.com
> 4. [23][20]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:[24][21]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [25][22]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto:[26][23]richard.l...@lp.org
> 8. mailto:[27][24]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:[28][25]carynan...@gmail.com
> 10. [29][26]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 11. mailto:[30][27]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [31][28]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. mailto:[32]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 14. mailto:[33]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 15. mailto:[34][29]richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:[35][30]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:[36]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [37][31]richard.l...@lp.org
> 931.538.9300 <(931)%20538-9300>
> References
> 1. mailto:[32]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[33]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. tel:(919) 906-2106
> 4. mailto:[34]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 5. tel:(317) 850-0726
> 6. mailto:[35]carynan...@gmail.com
> 7. [36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto:[37]carynan...@gmail.com
> 9. [38]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto:[39]richard.l...@lp.org
> 11. tel:(931) 538-9300
> 12. mailto:[40]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 13. mailto:[41]carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. [42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto:[43]carynan...@gmail.com
> 16. [44]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 17. mailto:[45]richard.l...@lp.org
> 18. tel:(919) 906-2106
> 19. mailto:[46]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 20. mailto:[47]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 21. mailto:[48]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 22. mailto:[49]carynan...@gmail.com
> 23. [50]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 24. mailto:[51]carynan...@gmail.com
> 25. [52]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 26. mailto:[53]richard.l...@lp.org
> 27. mailto:[54]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 28. mailto:[55]carynan...@gmail.com
> 29. [56]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 30. mailto:[57]carynan...@gmail.com
> 31. [58]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 32. mailto:[59]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 33. mailto:[60]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 34. mailto:[61]richard.l...@lp.org
> 35. mailto:[62]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 36. mailto:[63]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 37. mailto:[64]richard.l...@lp.org
>
> --
> Whitney Bilyeu
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative
> 281.433.4966 <(281)%20433-4966>
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 7. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 9. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 10. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 15. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 18. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 19. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 20. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 21. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 22. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 23. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 24. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 25. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 26. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 27. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 28. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 29. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 30. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 31. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 32. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 33. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 34. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 35. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 36. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 37. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 38. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 39. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 40. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 41. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 42. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 43. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 44. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 45. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 46. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 47. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 48. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 49. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 50. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 51. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 52. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 53. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 54. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 55. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 56. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 57. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 58. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 59. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 60. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 61. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 62. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 63. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 64. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
>
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.l...@lp.org
931.538.9300

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 17, 2018, 12:18:41 PM8/17/18
to Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business, john.p...@lp.org
Well said.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business Date: Fri, Aug 17, 2018 10:32 AMTo: lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org;Cc: Whitney Bilyeu;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION
Richard says, "You (collective sense) either agree with
it or you do not. There is no in between."

I disagree...there are times when I agree with the spirit of a resolution,
but not the specific language. There are also times when I agree with some
language of the motion, but not all, and question the spirit of it. And
there are times when I agree with the specific language, but not the spirit
in which it was presented. There are many in-betweens.

Each of us has our own reason for voting as we see fit, and each of us is
responsible for explaining ourselves (or not).

No one else gets to decide why we vote the way we vote, or what our
intentions were in doing so. I reject the the notion that we are against
something if we aren't for it (and vice versa).

As a Libertarian, I struggle daily with folks who think that if I don't
vote their way, then my vote is wasted. Our candidates face this every
election cycle...if you vote for C, you might as well be voting for B
instead of A. We have a bond election underway right now about flood
control...the message out there is that if you vote against the bond, you
must want people to continue losing life and limb to flood waters. Really?
This kind of thinking is naive, simple-minded, and reckless.

Whitney



On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
> > [2][3][4][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are
> > 1. mailto:[4][5][8]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 2. [5][6][9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 3. mailto:[6]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 4. mailto:[7]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [8][7][10]richard.l...@lp.org
> [11]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[8][12]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[9][13]carynan...@gmail.com
> 3. [10][14]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[11][15]carynan...@gmail.com
> 5. [12][16]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. mailto:[13]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[14]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 8. mailto:[15][17]richard.l...@lp.org
> References
> 1. tel:[18]919-906-2106
> 2. mailto:[16][19]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [17]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References
> 1. mailto:[20]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[21]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:[22]carynan...@gmail.com
> 4. [23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:[24]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [25]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto:[26]richard.l...@lp.org
> 8. mailto:[27]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:[28]carynan...@gmail.com
> 10. [29]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 11. mailto:[30]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [31]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. mailto:[32]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 14. mailto:[33]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 15. mailto:[34]richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:[35]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:[36]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> --
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [37]richard.l...@lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. tel:(919) 906-2106
> 4. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 5. tel:(317) 850-0726
> 10. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 11. tel:(931) 538-9300
> 12. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 18. tel:(919) 906-2106
Libertarian National Committee
Region 7 Representative
281.433.4966

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 21, 2018, 12:22:03 AM8/21/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, erin....@lp.org
As the region 7 Alternate, I vote yes. Whitney may vote and it may not
stand, but I cast a vote of yes

On 2018-08-17 11:18, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> Well said.
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative

> Cell [1]217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------

> <[3]

>> [3][1][6]919-906-2106


>> On Aug 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM, <[2]Richard Longstreth via
>> Lnc-business>
>> wrote:
>> But not enough to vote in favor of affirming them? I'm
>> confused...
>> Richard
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 22:58 Sam Goldstein via
>> Lnc-business

>> <[1][2][4[7]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> I vote No.
>> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly
>> illustrate
>> our
>> position on Property Rights and I fully support them.
>> ---
>> Sam Goldstein
>> Libertarian National Committee

>> [5][8]317-850-0726 Cell
>> On [9]2018-08-15 06:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via

>> > [2][3][4][7][11]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.

>> Votes are
>> noted
>> with a
>> link to
>> > the
>> > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find
>> the
>> time
>> that
>> the
>> > manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the
>> sheet.
>> >
>> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>> > --
>> > In Liberty,
>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>> Committee
>> Secretary
>> -

>> > [3][12]Caryn.Ann.[13] Har...@LP.org or[14]
>> Secr...@LP.or
> g.


>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -

>> [15] LPe...@LP.org


>> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> > We defend your rights
>> > And oppose the use of force
>> > Taxation is theft
>> >
>> > --
>> > In Liberty,
>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>> Committee
>> Secretary
>> -

>> > [4][16]Caryn.Ann.[17] Har...@LP.org or[18]
>> Secr...@LP.or
> g.


>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -

>> [19] LPe...@LP.org


>> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> > We defend your rights
>> > And oppose the use of force
>> > Taxation is theft
>> >
>> > References
>> >

>> > 1. mailto:[4][5][8[20]]carynan...@gmail.com
>> > 2. [5][6][9][21]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > 3. mailto:[6[22]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> > 4. mailto:[7[23]]Caryn.An...@LP.org


>> --
>> Richard Longstreth
>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI,
>> UT,
>> WA,
>> WY)
>> Libertarian National Committee

>> [8][7][10[24]]richard.l...@lp.org
>> [11][25]931.538.9300
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[8][12[26]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 2. mailto:[9][13[27]]carynan...@gmail.com
>> 3. [10][14][28]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 4. mailto:[11][15[29]]carynan...@gmail.com
>> 5. [12][16][30]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 6. mailto:[13[31]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 7. mailto:[14[32]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 8. mailto:[15][17[33]]richard.l...@lp.org
>> References
>> 1. tel:[18][34]919-906-2106
>> 2. mailto:[16][19[35]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary

>> - [17][36]Caryn.Ann.[37] Har...@LP.org or[38]
>> Secr...@LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[39]

>> LPe...@LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> References

>> 1. mailto:[20[40]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 2. mailto:[21[41]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 3. mailto:[22[42]]carynan...@gmail.com
>> 4. [23][43]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 5. mailto:[24[44]]carynan...@gmail.com
>> 6. [25][45]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 7. mailto:[26[46]]richard.l...@lp.org
>> 8. mailto:[27[47]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 9. mailto:[28[48]]carynan...@gmail.com
>> 10. [29][49]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 11. mailto:[30[50]]carynan...@gmail.com
>> 12. [31][51]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 13. mailto:[32[52]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 14. mailto:[33[53]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 15. mailto:[34[54]]richard.l...@lp.org
>> 16. mailto:[35[55]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 17. mailto:[36[56]]Caryn.An...@LP.org


>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Longstreth
>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
>> WY)
>> Libertarian National Committee

>> [37[57]]richard.l...@lp.org
>> [58]931.538.9300
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto[59]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 2. mailto[60]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 3. tel:[61](919) 906-2106
>> 4. mailto[62]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 5. tel:[63](317) 850-0726
>> 6. mailto[64]:carynan...@gmail.com
>> 7. [65]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 8. mailto[66]:carynan...@gmail.com
>> 9. [67]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 10. mailto[68]:richard.l...@lp.org
>> 11. tel:[69](931) 538-9300
>> 12. mailto[70]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 13. mailto[71]:carynan...@gmail.com
>> 14. [72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 15. mailto[73]:carynan...@gmail.com
>> 16. [74]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 17. mailto[75]:richard.l...@lp.org
>> 18. tel:[76](919) 906-2106
>> 19. mailto[77]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 20. mailto[78]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 21. mailto[79]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 22. mailto[80]:carynan...@gmail.com
>> 23. [81]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 24. mailto[82]:carynan...@gmail.com
>> 25. [83]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 26. mailto[84]:richard.l...@lp.org
>> 27. mailto[85]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 28. mailto[86]:carynan...@gmail.com
>> 29. [87]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 30. mailto[88]:carynan...@gmail.com
>> 31. [89]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 32. mailto[90]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 33. mailto[91]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 34. mailto[92]:richard.l...@lp.org
>> 35. mailto[93]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>> 36. mailto[94]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>> 37. mailto[95]:richard.l...@lp.org


>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Whitney Bilyeu*
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative

> [96]281.433.4966

> <[1][2[98]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Asking questions is not rude. Insisting he doesn’t is.
> -Caryn Ann
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:23 AM Susan Hogarth via
> Lnc-business
>

> [3][1][100]919-906-2106


> On Aug 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM, <[2]Richard Longstreth
> via
> Lnc-business>
> wrote:
> But not enough to vote in favor of affirming them?
> I'm
> confused...
> Richard
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018, 22:58 Sam Goldstein via
> Lnc-business

> <[1][2][4][4[101]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I vote No.
> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly
> illustrate
> our
> position on Property Rights and I fully support
> them.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee

> [5][102]317-850-0726 Cell
> On [103]2018-08-15 06:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via


> Lnc-business
> wrote:
> > BALLOT CORRECTION: Expiration date is AUGUST 22,
> 2018.
> > My mind has been left in July. September will
> really
> throw it
> for a
> > loop.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Caryn Ann
> Harlos
>

> > <[1][2][3][6][5[104]]carynan...@gmail.com>

> [2][3][4][7][6][105]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.


> Votes are
>
> noted
> with a
> link to
> > the
> > actual ballot cast for verification. You can
> find
> the
> time
> that
> the
> > manual tally was last updated at the bottom of
> the
> sheet.
> >
> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> Committee
> Secretary
> -

> > [3][106]Caryn.Ann.[107] Har...@LP.org or[108]
> Secretary@L
> P.org.


> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -

> [109] LPe...@LP.org


> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> >
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> Committee
> Secretary
> -

> > [4][110]Caryn.Ann.[111] Har...@LP.org or[112]
> Secretary@L
> P.org.


> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -

> [113] LPe...@LP.org


> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >
>
> > 1.

> mailto:[4][5][8][7[114]]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 2.
> [5][6][9][8][115]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 3. mailto:[6[116]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 4. mailto:[7[117]]Caryn.An...@LP.org


> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR,
> HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [8][7][10][9[118]]richard.l...@lp.org
> [11][119]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[8][12][10[120]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[9][13][11[121]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 3. [10][14][12][122]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[11][15][13[123]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 5. [12][16][14][124]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. mailto:[13[125]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[14[126]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 8. mailto:[15][17][15[127]]richard.l...@lp.org
> References
> 1. tel:[18][128]919-906-2106
> 2. mailto:[16][19][16[129]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary

> - [17][130]Caryn.Ann.[131] Har...@LP.org or[132]
> Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[133]

> LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References

> 1. mailto:[20][17[134]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[21][18[135]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:[22][19[136]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 4. [23][20][137]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:[24][21[138]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [25][22][139]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto:[26][23[140]]richard.l...@lp.org
> 8. mailto:[27][24[141]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:[28][25[142]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 10. [29][26][143]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 11. mailto:[30][27[144]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [31][28][145]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. mailto:[32[146]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 14. mailto:[33[147]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 15. mailto:[34][29[148]]richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:[35][30[149]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto:[36[150]]Caryn.An...@LP.org


> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [37][31[151]]richard.l...@lp.org
> [152]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[32[153]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[33[154]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. tel:[155](919) 906-2106
> 4. mailto:[34[156]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 5. tel:[157](317) 850-0726
> 6. mailto:[35[158]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 7. [36][159]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto:[37[160]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 9. [38][161]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto:[39[162]]richard.l...@lp.org
> 11. tel:[163](931) 538-9300
> 12. mailto:[40[164]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 13. mailto:[41[165]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. [42][166]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto:[43[167]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 16. [44][168]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 17. mailto:[45[169]]richard.l...@lp.org
> 18. tel:[170](919) 906-2106
> 19. mailto:[46[171]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 20. mailto:[47[172]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 21. mailto:[48[173]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 22. mailto:[49[174]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 23. [50][175]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 24. mailto:[51[176]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 25. [52][177]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 26. mailto:[53[178]]richard.l...@lp.org
> 27. mailto:[54[179]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 30. mailto:[57[182]]carynan...@gmail.com
> 31. [58][183]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 32. mailto:[59[184]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 33. mailto:[60[185]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 34. mailto:[61[186]]richard.l...@lp.org
> 35. mailto:[62[187]]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 36. mailto:[63[188]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 37. mailto:[64[189]]richard.l...@lp.org


>
> --
> Whitney Bilyeu
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative

> [190]281.433.4966
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto[191]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto[192]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto[193]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto[194]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 7. mailto[197]:carynan...@gmail.com
> 8. [198]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 9. mailto[199]:richard.l...@lp.org
> 10. mailto[200]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 12. [202]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. mailto[203]:carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. [204]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto[205]:richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto[206]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto[207]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 18. mailto[208]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 21. mailto[211]:carynan...@gmail.com
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> 24. mailto[214]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 27. mailto[217]:carynan...@gmail.com
> 28. [218]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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> 30. mailto[220]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 33. mailto[223]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 40. mailto[230]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 54. mailto[244]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 59. mailto[249]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 60. mailto[250]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 61. mailto[251]:richard.l...@lp.org
> 62. mailto[252]:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 63. mailto[253]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 64. mailto[254]:richard.l...@lp.org
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:217-412-5973


> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:
> lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 5. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 6. tel:919-906-2106
> 7. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 8. tel:317-850-0726
> 9. tel:2018-08-15 06
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> 12. http://Caryn.An/
> 13. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 14. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 15. mailto: LPe...@LP.org
> 16. http://Caryn.An/
> 17. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 18. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 19. mailto: LPe...@LP.org
> 20. mailto:]carynan...@gmail.com


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> 22. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 23. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 24. mailto:]richard.l...@lp.org
> 25. tel:931.538.9300
> 26. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 29. mailto:]carynan...@gmail.com
> 30. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 31. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 32. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
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> 35. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 36. http://Caryn.An/
> 37. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 38. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
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> 41. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 51. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 52. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 53. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 54. mailto:]richard.l...@lp.org


> 55. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 56. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 57. mailto:]richard.l...@lp.org
> 58. tel:931.538.9300
> 59. mailto::lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 60. mailto::lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 61. tel:(919) 906-2106
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> 66. mailto::carynan...@gmail.com
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> 91. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 92. mailto::richard.l...@lp.org
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> 94. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 95. mailto::richard.l...@lp.org
> 96. tel:281.433.4966


> 97. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 98. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

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> 111. mailto: Har...@LP.org
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> 115. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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> 117. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 118. mailto:]richard.l...@lp.org
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> 126. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
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> 135. mailto:]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 188. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 189. mailto:]richard.l...@lp.org
> 190. tel:281.433.4966
> 191. mailto::lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 232. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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> 242. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 243. mailto::richard.l...@lp.org
> 244. mailto::lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 245. mailto::carynan...@gmail.com
> 246. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 247. mailto::carynan...@gmail.com
> 248. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 249. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 250. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 251. mailto::richard.l...@lp.org
> 252. mailto::lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 253. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 254. mailto::richard.l...@lp.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 21, 2018, 7:41:36 AM8/21/18
to Libertarian National Committee list, Caryn Ann Harlos
REMINDER - This ballot will expire on August 22, 2018.


I have noted the following (please inform me of any corrections):


Voting AYE: Adams, Harlos, Longstreth, Nekhaila, O’Donell, Smith

Voting NAY: Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hewitt, Hogarth, Mattson, Merced,
Phillips, Redpath, Sarwark, Van Horn

Express Abstentions: None

Not Voting: Hagan


For a current tally of 6-10.


Notes: Regional Alternate Adams’ aye vote is counted in the main tally as
Regional Representative Bilyeu has not voted. Regional Alternate Hogarth’s
nay vote is counted in the main tally as Regional Representative Lark has
not voted. Regional Alternate Olsen had voted aye but that vote was
superseded by Regional Representative Hewitt’s vote of nay. Regional
Alternate Bowden had voted nay for the record though Regional
Representative Longstreth’s aye vote is the one counted in the tally. Regional
Alternates Lee, Lyons, and Anderson have not recorded votes.


You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> nnha...@gmail.com
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 21, 2018, 8:32:46 AM8/21/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-08-14 18:07 Jeff Lyons-Region 8 Alternate, voted no. That's not
been noted.

Also, I see a yes vote for "yes" vote for Region &, but Whitney Bilyeu
hasn't voted. I'd think the Adams 'yes' vote would fall into the
Alternate column, and if Whitney doesn't vote, then be counted. But, I
think it should be indicated that the vote is from an Alternate.

Cheers,
EVH


---
Elizabeth Van Horn


On 2018-08-21 07:40, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> REMINDER - This ballot will expire on August 22, 2018.
>
> I have noted the following (please inform me of any corrections):
>
> Voting AYE: Adams, Harlos, Longstreth, Nekhaila, O’Donell, Smith
>
> Voting NAY: Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hewitt, Hogarth, Mattson,
> Merced, Phillips, Redpath, Sarwark, Van Horn
>
> Express Abstentions: None
>
> Not Voting: Hagan
>
> For a current tally of 6-10.
>
> Notes: Regional Alternate Adams’ aye vote is counted in the main
> tally as Regional Representative Bilyeu has not voted. Regional
> Alternate Hogarth’s nay vote is counted in the main tally as
> Regional
> Representative Lark has not voted. Regional Alternate Olsen had
> voted
> aye but that vote was superseded by Regional Representative Hewitt’s
> vote of nay. Regional Alternate Bowden had voted nay for the
> record
> though Regional Representative Longstreth’s aye vote is the one
> counted
> in the tally. Regional Alternates Lee, Lyons, and Anderson have not
> recorded votes.
>
> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

> [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

> [4]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Susan, if you are referring to my comment, that is not what I
> said at
> all. If someone believes in property rights and supports the
> resolution, I'm not sure why they would vote against it. Simple
> as
> that. Waste of time or not, it is a resolution before us and
> one
> that
> either you support or do not. If you think it is a waste of
> time,
> discourage similar resolutions in the future. This is balloted,
> however, and must be voted on. You (collective sense) either
> agree with
> it or you do not. There is no in between.
> Richard
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:30 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via
> Lnc-business

> <[1[4]][5]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Asking questions is not rude. Insisting he doesn’t is.
> -Caryn Ann
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:23 AM Susan Hogarth via
> Lnc-business

> <[1][2][4[7]][7]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I vote No.
> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly
> illustrate
> our
> position on Property Rights and I fully support
> them.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> [5][8]317-850-0726 Cell
> On [9]2018-08-15 06:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
> Lnc-business
> wrote:
> > BALLOT CORRECTION: Expiration date is AUGUST 22,
> 2018.
> > My mind has been left in July. September will
> really
> throw it
> for a
> > loop.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Caryn Ann
> Harlos

> > <[1][2][3][6[10]][8]carynan...@gmail.com>

> > [2][3][4][7][11][9]https://tinyur
> l.com/lncvoting. Votes are
> noted

> > 1. mailto:[4][5][8[20]][10]carynannha
> rl...@gmail.com
> > 2. [5][6][9][21][11]https://tinyurl.c
> om/lncvoting


> > 3. mailto:[6[22]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 4. mailto:[7[23]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR,
> HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [8][7][10[24]][12]richard.l...@lp.org
> [11][25]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[8][12[26]][13]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[9][13[27]][14]carynan...@gmail.com
> 3. [10][14][28][15]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[11][15[29]][16]carynan...@gmail.com
> 5. [12][16][30][17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 6. mailto:[13[31]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[14[32]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 8. mailto:[15][17[33]][18]richard.l...@lp.org


> References
> 1. tel:[18][34]919-906-2106

> 2. mailto:[16][19[35]][19]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary
> - [17][36]Caryn.Ann.[37] Har...@LP.org or[38]
> Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[39]
> LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References

> 1. mailto:[20[40]][20]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[21[41]][21]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:[22[42]][22]carynan...@gmail.com
> 4. [23][43][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:[24[44]][24]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [25][45][25]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto:[26[46]][26]richard.l...@lp.org
> 8. mailto:[27[47]][27]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:[28[48]][28]carynan...@gmail.com
> 10. [29][49][29]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 11. mailto:[30[50]][30]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [31][51][31]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 13. mailto:[32[52]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 14. mailto:[33[53]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 15. mailto:[34[54]][32]richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:[35[55]][33]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 17. mailto:[36[56]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [37[57]][34]richard.l...@lp.org
> [58]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto[59]:[35]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto[60]:[36]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 3. tel:[61](919) 906-2106

> 4. mailto[62]:[37]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 5. tel:[63](317) 850-0726

> 6. mailto[64]:[38]carynan...@gmail.com
> 7. [65][39]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto[66]:[40]carynan...@gmail.com
> 9. [67][41]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto[68]:[42]richard.l...@lp.org


> 11. tel:[69](931) 538-9300

> 12. mailto[70]:[43]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 13. mailto[71]:[44]carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. [72][45]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto[73]:[46]carynan...@gmail.com
> 16. [74][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 17. mailto[75]:[48]richard.l...@lp.org


> 18. tel:[76](919) 906-2106

> 19. mailto[77]:[49]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 20. mailto[78]:[50]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 21. mailto[79]:[51]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 22. mailto[80]:[52]carynan...@gmail.com
> 23. [81][53]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 24. mailto[82]:[54]carynan...@gmail.com
> 25. [83][55]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 26. mailto[84]:[56]richard.l...@lp.org
> 27. mailto[85]:[57]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 28. mailto[86]:[58]carynan...@gmail.com
> 29. [87][59]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 30. mailto[88]:[60]carynan...@gmail.com
> 31. [89][61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 32. mailto[90]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 33. mailto[91]:Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 34. mailto[92]:[62]richard.l...@lp.org
> 35. mailto[93]:[63]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 36. mailto[94]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 37. mailto[95]:[64]richard.l...@lp.org

> <[1][2[98]][66]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Asking questions is not rude. Insisting he doesn’t
> is.
> -Caryn Ann
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:23 AM Susan Hogarth via
> Lnc-business

> <[1][2][4][4[101]][68]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org>

> > <[1][2][3][6][5[104]][69]carynannh

> > [2][3][4][7][6][105][70]https://ti

> > 1. mailto:[4][5][8][7[114]][71]caryna
> nnha...@gmail.com
> > 2. [5][6][9][8][115][72]https://tinyu


> rl.com/lncvoting
> > 3. mailto:[6[116]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 4. mailto:[7[117]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM,
> OR,
> HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [8][7][10][9[118]][73]richard.l...@lp.org
> [11][119]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[8][12][10[120]][74]lnc-bus
> in...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[9][13][11[121]][75]carynan
> nha...@gmail.com
> 3. [10][14][12][122][76]https://tinyu
> rl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[11][15][13[123]][77]caryna
> nnha...@gmail.com
> 5. [12][16][14][124][78]https://tinyu
> rl.com/lncvoting


> 6. mailto:[13[125]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[14[126]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 8. mailto:[15][17][15[127]][79]richar
> d.long...@lp.org


> References
> 1. tel:[18][128]919-906-2106

> 2. mailto:[16][19][16[129]][80]lnc-bu
> sin...@hq.lp.org


> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary
> - [17][130]Caryn.Ann.[131] Har...@LP.org or[132]
> Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[133]
> LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References

> 1. mailto:[20][17[134]][81]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[21][18[135]][82]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:[22][19[136]][83]carynan...@gmail.com
> 4. [23][20][137][84]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:[24][21[138]][85]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [25][22][139][86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto:[26][23[140]][87]richard.l...@lp.org
> 8. mailto:[27][24[141]][88]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:[28][25[142]][89]carynan...@gmail.com
> 10. [29][26][143][90]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 11. mailto:[30][27[144]][91]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [31][28][145][92]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 13. mailto:[32[146]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 14. mailto:[33[147]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 15. mailto:[34][29[148]][93]richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:[35][30[149]][94]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 17. mailto:[36[150]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI,
> UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [37][31[151]][95]richard.l...@lp.org
> [152]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[32[153]][96]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[33[154]][97]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 3. tel:[155](919) 906-2106

> 4. mailto:[34[156]][98]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 5. tel:[157](317) 850-0726

> 6. mailto:[35[158]][99]carynan...@gmail.com
> 7. [36][159][100]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto:[37[160]][101]carynan...@gmail.com
> 9. [38][161][102]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto:[39[162]][103]richard.l...@lp.org


> 11. tel:[163](931) 538-9300

> 12. mailto:[40[164]][104]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 13. mailto:[41[165]][105]carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. [42][166][106]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto:[43[167]][107]carynan...@gmail.com
> 16. [44][168][108]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 17. mailto:[45[169]][109]richard.l...@lp.org


> 18. tel:[170](919) 906-2106

> 19. mailto:[46[171]][110]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 20. mailto:[47[172]][111]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 21. mailto:[48[173]][112]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 22. mailto:[49[174]][113]carynan...@gmail.com
> 23. [50][175][114]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 24. mailto:[51[176]][115]carynan...@gmail.com
> 25. [52][177][116]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 26. mailto:[53[178]][117]richard.l...@lp.org
> 27. mailto:[54[179]][118]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 28. mailto:[55[180]][119]carynan...@gmail.com
> 29. [56][181][120]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 30. mailto:[57[182]][121]carynan...@gmail.com
> 31. [58][183][122]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 32. mailto:[59[184]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 33. mailto:[60[185]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 34. mailto:[61[186]][123]richard.l...@lp.org
> 35. mailto:[62[187]][124]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 36. mailto:[63[188]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 37. mailto:[64[189]][125]richard.l...@lp.org


> --
> Whitney Bilyeu
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative
> [190]281.433.4966
> References

> 1. mailto[191]:[126]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto[192]:[127]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto[193]:[128]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto[194]:[129]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 5. mailto[195]:[130]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [196][131]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto[197]:[132]carynan...@gmail.com
> 8. [198][133]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 9. mailto[199]:[134]richard.l...@lp.org
> 10. mailto[200]:[135]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 11. mailto[201]:[136]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [202][137]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. mailto[203]:[138]carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. [204][139]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto[205]:[140]richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto[206]:[141]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto[207]:[142]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 18. mailto[208]:[143]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 19. mailto[209]:[144]carynan...@gmail.com
> 20. [210][145]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 21. mailto[211]:[146]carynan...@gmail.com
> 22. [212][147]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 23. mailto[213]:[148]richard.l...@lp.org
> 24. mailto[214]:[149]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 25. mailto[215]:[150]carynan...@gmail.com
> 26. [216][151]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 27. mailto[217]:[152]carynan...@gmail.com
> 28. [218][153]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 29. mailto[219]:[154]richard.l...@lp.org
> 30. mailto[220]:[155]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 31. mailto[221]:[156]richard.l...@lp.org
> 32. mailto[222]:[157]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 33. mailto[223]:[158]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 34. mailto[224]:[159]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 35. mailto[225]:[160]carynan...@gmail.com
> 36. [226][161]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 37. mailto[227]:[162]carynan...@gmail.com
> 38. [228][163]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 39. mailto[229]:[164]richard.l...@lp.org
> 40. mailto[230]:[165]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 41. mailto[231]:[166]carynan...@gmail.com
> 42. [232][167]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 43. mailto[233]:[168]carynan...@gmail.com
> 44. [234][169]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 45. mailto[235]:[170]richard.l...@lp.org
> 46. mailto[236]:[171]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 47. mailto[237]:[172]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 48. mailto[238]:[173]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 49. mailto[239]:[174]carynan...@gmail.com
> 50. [240][175]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 51. mailto[241]:[176]carynan...@gmail.com
> 52. [242][177]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 53. mailto[243]:[178]richard.l...@lp.org
> 54. mailto[244]:[179]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 55. mailto[245]:[180]carynan...@gmail.com
> 56. [246][181]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 57. mailto[247]:[182]carynan...@gmail.com
> 58. [248][183]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 59. mailto[249]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 60. mailto[250]:Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 61. mailto[251]:[184]richard.l...@lp.org
> 62. mailto[252]:[185]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 63. mailto[253]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 64. mailto[254]:[186]richard.l...@lp.org
> References
> 1. tel:217-412-5973
> 2. mailto:[187]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:
> [188]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:][189]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 5. mailto:][190]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 6. tel:919-906-2106
> 7. mailto:][191]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 8. tel:317-850-0726
> 9. tel:2018-08-15 06

> 10. mailto:][192]carynan...@gmail.com
> 11. [193]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.
> 12. [194]http://Caryn.An/


> 13. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 14. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 15. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

> 16. [195]http://Caryn.An/


> 17. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 18. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 19. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

> 20. mailto:][196]carynan...@gmail.com
> 21. [197]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 22. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 23. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 24. mailto:][198]richard.l...@lp.org
> 25. tel:931.538.9300
> 26. mailto:][199]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 27. mailto:][200]carynan...@gmail.com
> 28. [201]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 29. mailto:][202]carynan...@gmail.com
> 30. [203]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 31. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 32. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 33. mailto:][204]richard.l...@lp.org
> 34. tel:919-906-2106
> 35. mailto:][205]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 36. [206]http://Caryn.An/


> 37. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 38. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 39. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

> 40. mailto:][207]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 41. mailto:][208]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 42. mailto:][209]carynan...@gmail.com
> 43. [210]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 44. mailto:][211]carynan...@gmail.com
> 45. [212]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 46. mailto:][213]richard.l...@lp.org
> 47. mailto:][214]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 53. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

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> 61. tel:(919) 906-2106
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> 63. tel:(317) 850-0726
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> 72. [232]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 73. mailto::[233]carynan...@gmail.com
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> 87. [246]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 88. mailto::[247]carynan...@gmail.com
> 89. [248]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 90. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 91. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 92. mailto::[249]richard.l...@lp.org
> 93. mailto::[250]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 94. mailto::Caryn.An...@LP.org
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> 96. tel:281.433.4966
> 97. mailto:][252]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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> 99. mailto:][254]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 100. tel:919-906-2106
> 101. mailto:][255]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 102. tel:317-850-0726
> 103. tel:2018-08-15 06

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> 106. [258]http://Caryn.An/


> 107. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 108. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 109. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

> 110. [259]http://Caryn.An/


> 111. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 112. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 113. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

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> 115. [261]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 116. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 117. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

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> 123. mailto:][266]carynan...@gmail.com
> 124. [267]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 125. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 126. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

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> 133. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

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> 147. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

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> 150. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
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> 152. tel:931.538.9300
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> 169. mailto:][299]richard.l...@lp.org


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> 177. [306]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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> 181. [310]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 182. mailto:][311]carynan...@gmail.com
> 183. [312]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 184. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 185. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 186. mailto:][313]richard.l...@lp.org
> 187. mailto:][314]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 188. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 189. mailto:][315]richard.l...@lp.org
> 190. tel:281.433.4966
> 191. mailto::[316]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 192. mailto::[317]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 193. mailto::[318]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 194. mailto::[319]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 195. mailto::[320]carynan...@gmail.com
> 196. [321]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 197. mailto::[322]carynan...@gmail.com
> 198. [323]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 199. mailto::[324]richard.l...@lp.org
> 200. mailto::[325]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 201. mailto::[326]carynan...@gmail.com


>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary

> - [327]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.


> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>

> 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

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> 7. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

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> 195. http://Caryn.An/
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> 227. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com

> 240. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

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> 251. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 252. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 253. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
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lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 21, 2018, 9:10:11 AM8/21/18
to Elizabeth Van Horn, Libertarian National Committee list, Caryn Ann Harlos
As I said explained before, the alternate vote goes in the primary column
until the primary votes. That is how I always record them so Adams vote is
in the correct place. The votes in the alternate column are not counted.

It is indicated the vote is from an alternate by the underline. If you
look in column one you will that the person who’s vote is being counted is
underlined. (For reference see Lark/Hogarth which is the same situation as
Bilyeu/Adams).

Lyons did not vote. If you see a vote for him please provide a link. If
you are referring to this:

http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014899.html

You cannot pre-vote. There was no ballot yet.

Thus everything is in fact recorded correctly as I reported.

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 6:32 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabet...@lp.org>
wrote:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 21, 2018, 11:57:01 AM8/21/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Jeff Lyons
Sorry, I called this a waste of time. Yet, here we still are. Still
NO.


On 2018-08-21 09:09, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> As I said explained before, the alternate vote goes in the primary
> column until the primary votes. That is how I always record them so
> Adams vote is in the correct place. The votes in the alternate
> column
> are not counted.
> It is indicated the vote is from an alternate by the underline. If
> you
> look in column one you will that the person who’s vote is being
> counted
> is underlined. (For reference see Lark/Hogarth which is the same
> situation as Bilyeu/Adams).
> Lyons did not vote. If you see a vote for him please provide a
> link.
> If you are referring to this:

> [1]http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014899.html

> > [1][3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> >
> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:21 PM, erin.adams--- via
> Lnc-business

> > <[1[4]][5][7]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > Asking questions is not rude. Insisting he doesn’t
> is.
> > -Caryn Ann
> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:23 AM Susan Hogarth via
> > Lnc-business

> > <[1][2][4[7]][7][9]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org>

> > > <[1][2][3][6[10]][8][10]carynannha
> rl...@gmail.com>

> > > [2][3][4][7][11][9][11]https://tinyur
> > [12]l.com/lncvoting. Votes are

> > [13]rl...@gmail.com
> > > 2.
> [5][6][9][21][11][14]https://tinyurl.c


> > om/lncvoting
> > > 3.
> mailto:[6[22]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > > 4.
> mailto:[7[23]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > --
> > Richard Longstreth
> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT,
> NM,
> OR,
> > HI, UT,
> > WA,
> > WY)
> > Libertarian National Committee
> >

> [8][7][10[24]][12][15]richard.l...@lp.org
> > [11][25]931.538.9300
> > References
> > 1. mailto:[8][12[26]][13][16]lnc-
> busi...@hq.lp.org
> > 2. mailto:[9][13[27]][14][17]carynann
> har...@gmail.com
> > 3. [10][14][28][15][18]https://
> tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 4. mailto:[11][15[29]][16][19]carynan
> nha...@gmail.com
> > 5. [12][16][30][17][20]https://
> tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> > 6. mailto:[13[31]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 7. mailto:[14[32]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 8. mailto:[15][17[33]][18][21]richard
> .longs...@lp.org


> > References
> > 1. tel:[18][34]919-906-2106

> > 2. mailto:[16][19[35]][19][22]lnc-
> busi...@hq.lp.org


> > --
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> Committee
> > Secretary
> > - [17][36]Caryn.Ann.[37] Har...@LP.org or[38]
> > Secr...@LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[39]
> > LPe...@LP.org
> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> > References

> > 1. mailto:[20[40]][20][23]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 2. mailto:[21[41]][21][24]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 3. mailto:[22[42]][22][25]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 4. [23][43][23][26]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 5. mailto:[24[44]][24][27]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 6. [25][45][25][28]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 7. mailto:[26[46]][26][29]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 8. mailto:[27[47]][27][30]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 9. mailto:[28[48]][28][31]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 10. [29][49][29][32]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 11. mailto:[30[50]][30][33]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 12. [31][51][31][34]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> > 13. mailto:[32[52]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 14. mailto:[33[53]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 15. mailto:[34[54]][32][35]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 16. mailto:[35[55]][33][36]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> > 17. mailto:[36[56]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > --
> > Richard Longstreth
> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI,
> UT,
> > WA,
> > WY)
> > Libertarian National Committee

> > [37[57]][34][37]richard.l...@lp.org
> > [58]931.538.9300
> > References
> > 1. mailto[59]:[35][38]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 2. mailto[60]:[36][39]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> > 3. tel:[61](919) 906-2106

> > 4. mailto[62]:[37][40]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> > 5. tel:[63](317) 850-0726

> > 6. mailto[64]:[38][41]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 7. [65][39][42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 8. mailto[66]:[40][43]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 9. [67][41][44]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 10. mailto[68]:[42][45]richard.l...@lp.org


> > 11. tel:[69](931) 538-9300

> > 12. mailto[70]:[43][46]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 13. mailto[71]:[44][47]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 14. [72][45][48]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 15. mailto[73]:[46][49]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 16. [74][47][50]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 17. mailto[75]:[48][51]richard.l...@lp.org


> > 18. tel:[76](919) 906-2106

> > 19. mailto[77]:[49][52]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 20. mailto[78]:[50][53]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 21. mailto[79]:[51][54]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 22. mailto[80]:[52][55]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 23. [81][53][56]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 24. mailto[82]:[54][57]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 25. [83][55][58]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 26. mailto[84]:[56][59]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 27. mailto[85]:[57][60]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 28. mailto[86]:[58][61]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 29. [87][59][62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 30. mailto[88]:[60][63]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 31. [89][61][64]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> > 32. mailto[90]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 33. mailto[91]:Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 34. mailto[92]:[62][65]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 35. mailto[93]:[63][66]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 36. mailto[94]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 37. mailto[95]:[64][67]richard.l...@lp.org

> > <[1][2[98]][66][69]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > Asking questions is not rude. Insisting he
> doesn’t
> > is.
> > -Caryn Ann
> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:23 AM Susan Hogarth
> via
> > Lnc-business

> > <[1][2][3[99]][67][70]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org>

> > <[1][2][4][4[101]][68][71]lnc-
> busi...@hq.lp.org>

> > > [2][3][4][7][6][105][70][73]https:
> //ti
> > [74]nyurl.com/lncvoting.

> > [75]nnha...@gmail.com
> > > 2.
> [5][6][9][8][115][72][76]https://
> tinyu
> > [77]rl.com/lncvoting
> > > 3. mailto:[6[116]]Caryn.Ann.
> Har...@LP.org
> > > 4. mailto:[7[117]]Caryn.Ann.
> Har...@LP.org


> > --
> > Richard Longstreth
> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS,
> MT, NM,
> > OR,
> > HI, UT,
> > WA,
> > WY)
> > Libertarian National Committee

> > [8][7][10][9[118]][73][78]richard.
> longs...@lp.org


> > [11][119]931.538.9300
> > References
> > 1. mailto:[8][12][10[120]][74]lnc-bus

> > [79]in...@hq.lp.org


> > 2. mailto:[9][13][11[121]][75]carynan

> > [80]nha...@gmail.com
> > 3. [10][14][12][122][76][81]https://tinyu
> > [82]rl.com/lncvoting


> > 4. mailto:[11][15][13[123]][77]caryna

> > [83]nnha...@gmail.com
> > 5. [12][16][14][124][78][84]https://tinyu
> > [85]rl.com/lncvoting


> > 6.
> mailto:[13[125]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 7.
> mailto:[14[126]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 8. mailto:[15][17][15[127]][79]richar

> > [86]d.long...@lp.org


> > References
> > 1. tel:[18][128]919-906-2106
> > 2. mailto:[16][19][16[129]][80]lnc-bu

> > [87]sin...@hq.lp.org


> > --
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> Committee
> > Secretary
> > - [17][130]Caryn.Ann.[131] Har...@LP.org
> or[132]
> > Secr...@LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> -[133]
> > LPe...@LP.org
> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> > References

> > 1. mailto:[20][17[134]][81][88]lnc-
> busi...@hq.lp.org
> > 2. mailto:[21][18[135]][82][89]lnc-
> busi...@hq.lp.org
> > 3. mailto:[22][19[136]][83][90]caryna
> nnha...@gmail.com
> > 4. [23][20][137][84][91]https://
> tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 5. mailto:[24][21[138]][85][92]caryna
> nnha...@gmail.com
> > 6. [25][22][139][86][93]https://
> tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 7. mailto:[26][23[140]][87][94]richar
> d.long...@lp.org
> > 8. mailto:[27][24[141]][88][95]lnc-
> busi...@hq.lp.org
> > 9. mailto:[28][25[142]][89][96]caryna
> nnha...@gmail.com
> > 10. [29][26][143][90][97]https://
> tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 11. mailto:[30][27[144]][91][98]caryna
> nnha...@gmail.com
> > 12. [31][28][145][92][99]https://
> tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> > 13. mailto:[32[146]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 14. mailto:[33[147]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 15. mailto:[34][29[148]][93][100]richar
> d.long...@lp.org
> > 16. mailto:[35][30[149]][94][101]lnc-
> busi...@hq.lp.org


> > 17. mailto:[36[150]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > --
> > Richard Longstreth
> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM,
> OR,
> HI,
> > UT,
> > WA,
> > WY)
> > Libertarian National Committee

> > [37][31[151]][95][102]richard.l...@lp.org
> > [152]931.538.9300
> > References
> > 1. mailto:[32[153]][96][103]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 2. mailto:[33[154]][97][104]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> > 3. tel:[155](919) 906-2106

> > 4. mailto:[34[156]][98][105]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> > 5. tel:[157](317) 850-0726
> > 6.

> mailto:[35[158]][99][106]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 7. [36][159][100][107]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 8.
> mailto:[37[160]][101][108]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 9. [38][161][102][109]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 10. mailto:[39[162]][103][110]richard.
> longs...@lp.org


> > 11. tel:[163](931) 538-9300

> > 12. mailto:[40[164]][104][111]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 13.
> mailto:[41[165]][105][112]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 14. [42][166][106][113]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 15.
> mailto:[43[167]][107][114]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 16. [44][168][108][115]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 17. mailto:[45[169]][109][116]richard.
> longs...@lp.org


> > 18. tel:[170](919) 906-2106

> > 19. mailto:[46[171]][110][117]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 20. mailto:[47[172]][111][118]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 21. mailto:[48[173]][112][119]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 22.
> mailto:[49[174]][113][120]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 23. [50][175][114][121]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 24.
> mailto:[51[176]][115][122]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 25. [52][177][116][123]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 26. mailto:[53[178]][117][124]richard.
> longs...@lp.org
> > 27. mailto:[54[179]][118][125]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 28.
> mailto:[55[180]][119][126]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 29. [56][181][120][127]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 30.
> mailto:[57[182]][121][128]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 31. [58][183][122][129]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> > 32. mailto:[59[184]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 33. mailto:[60[185]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 34. mailto:[61[186]][123][130]richard.
> longs...@lp.org
> > 35. mailto:[62[187]][124][131]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> > 36. mailto:[63[188]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 37. mailto:[64[189]][125][132]richard.
> longs...@lp.org


> > --
> > Whitney Bilyeu
> > Libertarian National Committee
> > Region 7 Representative
> > [190]281.433.4966
> > References

> > 1. mailto[191]:[126][133]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 2. mailto[192]:[127][134]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 3. mailto[193]:[128][135]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 4. mailto[194]:[129][136]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 5. mailto[195]:[130][137]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 6. [196][131][138]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 7. mailto[197]:[132][139]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 8. [198][133][140]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 9. mailto[199]:[134][141]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 10. mailto[200]:[135][142]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 11. mailto[201]:[136][143]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 12. [202][137][144]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 13. mailto[203]:[138][145]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 14. [204][139][146]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 15. mailto[205]:[140][147]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 16. mailto[206]:[141][148]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 17. mailto[207]:[142][149]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 18. mailto[208]:[143][150]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 19. mailto[209]:[144][151]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 20. [210][145][152]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 21. mailto[211]:[146][153]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 22. [212][147][154]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 23. mailto[213]:[148][155]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 24. mailto[214]:[149][156]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 25. mailto[215]:[150][157]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 26. [216][151][158]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 27. mailto[217]:[152][159]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 28. [218][153][160]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 29. mailto[219]:[154][161]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 30. mailto[220]:[155][162]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 31. mailto[221]:[156][163]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 32. mailto[222]:[157][164]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 33. mailto[223]:[158][165]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 34. mailto[224]:[159][166]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 35. mailto[225]:[160][167]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 36. [226][161][168]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 37. mailto[227]:[162][169]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 38. [228][163][170]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 39. mailto[229]:[164][171]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 40. mailto[230]:[165][172]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 41. mailto[231]:[166][173]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 42. [232][167][174]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 43. mailto[233]:[168][175]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 44. [234][169][176]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 45. mailto[235]:[170][177]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 46. mailto[236]:[171][178]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 47. mailto[237]:[172][179]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 48. mailto[238]:[173][180]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 49. mailto[239]:[174][181]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 50. [240][175][182]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 51. mailto[241]:[176][183]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 52. [242][177][184]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 53. mailto[243]:[178][185]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 54. mailto[244]:[179][186]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 55. mailto[245]:[180][187]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 56. [246][181][188]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 57. mailto[247]:[182][189]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 58. [248][183][190]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> > 59. mailto[249]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 60. mailto[250]:Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 61. mailto[251]:[184][191]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 62. mailto[252]:[185][192]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 63. mailto[253]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 64. mailto[254]:[186][193]richard.l...@lp.org
> > References
> > 1. tel:217-412-5973
> > 2. mailto:[187][194]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 3. mailto:
> > [188][195]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 4. mailto:][189][196]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 5. mailto:][190][197]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 6. tel:919-906-2106
> > 7. mailto:][191][198]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> > 8. tel:317-850-0726
> > 9. tel:2018-08-15 06

> > 10. mailto:][192][199]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 11. [193][200]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting.
> > 12. [194][201]http://Caryn.An/


> > 13. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> > 14. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> > 15. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

> > 16. [195][202]http://Caryn.An/


> > 17. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> > 18. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> > 19. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

> > 20. mailto:][196][203]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 21. [197][204]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> > 22. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 23. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 24. mailto:][198][205]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 25. tel:931.538.9300
> > 26. mailto:][199][206]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 27. mailto:][200][207]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 28. [201][208]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 29. mailto:][202][209]carynan...@gmail.com
> > 30. [203][210]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> > 31. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 32. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 33. mailto:][204][211]richard.l...@lp.org
> > 34. tel:919-906-2106
> > 35. mailto:][205][212]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> > 36. [206]
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014899.html
> 2. mailto:elizabet...@lp.org
> 3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

> 8. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 10. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 11. https://tinyur/
> 12. http://l.com/lncvoting
> 13. mailto:rl...@gmail.com
> 14. https://tinyurl.c/


> 15. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 17. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 18. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

> 21. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 22. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 23. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 29. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 30. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 31. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 32. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 33. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 34. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 35. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 36. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 37. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 38. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 39. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 40. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 47. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 48. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

> 51. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 52. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 53. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 59. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 60. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 61. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 62. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 63. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 64. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 65. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 66. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 67. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 68. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 69. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 70. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 71. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 72. mailto:ar...@gmail.com
> 73. https://ti/
> 74. http://nyurl.com/lncvoting
> 75. mailto:nnha...@gmail.com
> 76. https://tinyu/
> 77. http://rl.com/lncvoting
> 78. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 79. mailto:in...@hq.lp.org
> 80. mailto:nha...@gmail.com
> 81. https://tinyu/
> 82. http://rl.com/lncvoting
> 83. mailto:nnha...@gmail.com
> 84. https://tinyu/
> 85. http://rl.com/lncvoting
> 86. mailto:d.long...@lp.org
> 87. mailto:sin...@hq.lp.org
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> 89. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 90. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 91. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 92. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 93. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 94. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 95. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 96. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 97. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 98. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 99. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 100. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 101. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 102. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 103. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 104. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 105. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 106. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 107. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 108. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 109. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 110. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 111. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 112. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 113. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

> 116. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 117. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 118. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 119. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 126. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 127. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 128. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 129. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 130. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 131. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 132. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 133. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 134. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 135. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 136. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 137. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 138. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 139. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 140. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 141. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 142. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 143. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 144. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 145. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 146. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 147. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 148. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 149. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 150. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 151. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 152. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 153. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 154. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 155. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 156. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 157. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 158. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 159. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 160. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 161. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 162. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 163. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 164. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 165. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 166. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 169. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 170. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 171. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 172. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 173. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 174. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 175. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 176. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 177. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 178. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 179. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 180. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 181. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 182. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 183. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 184. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 185. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 186. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 187. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 188. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 189. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 190. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 191. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 192. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 193. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 194. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 195. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 196. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 197. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 198. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 199. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 200. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 201. http://Caryn.An/
> 202. http://Caryn.An/

> 207. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 208. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

> 211. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 212. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
>
> Hidden links:
> 214. http://Caryn.An/

--
In Liberty,
Jeff Lyons

Region 8 Alternate
(Acting Region 8 Rep)

Libertarian Assoc. of MA
Membership Director
http://www.lpmass.org/join

Daniel Fishman for Auditor
Campaign Manager
http://www.AuditMassachusetts.com

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 21, 2018, 12:05:58 PM8/21/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Jeff Lyons
Clarification:

I meant sorry for not responding in a more timely manner, or too timely
a manner since the ballot had not opened yet, but because of the
inherent waste of time that this is. Not sorry to be voting NO. Again.
I have been busy the last week trying to get Libertarians elected, by
talking to Libertarians, Democrats, Republicans, and Independents, at
almost a dozen different events on the campaign trail in the past five
days. Some people seem to think this resolution will "help" activists
on the ground. I find it ridiculous that a bunch of Libertarians who
don't think a central government should be making decisions that effect
each of the states unequally, should have its central body pass a
resolution that effects each of the states unequally. You're worried
about the Republicans calling us soft on the left? I'm just as worried
about the Democrats calling us soft on the Right. The answer? Not the
LNC's problem. Have your state affiliate make its own resolution if you
need it so bad. Win your own facebook arguments. Our ideas are so
good, they don't have to be mandatory. Enough with the theatrics. Get
to work. This bickering is pointless.

-Jeff Lyons
Region 8 Alt.

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 21, 2018, 12:18:31 PM8/21/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, brent...@lp.org
Mr. Lyons,

I just wanted to point out that while this resolution initially was
responded to with "bickering", things have calmed down over the past few
days on this list. I have not seen as much "bickering" here or on
social media the past few days. So why restart it by making this kind
of statement about the issue? There was just a reminder with current
vote tally listed and deadline to vote noted sent by the Secretary.
That's pretty common practice. I think most of us who wanted to see
this resolution pass have accepted that it is not going to pass and have
moved on. But voting is still open.... And I think most of us on this
body are working to get Libertarians elected... Yet your response to
the email makes it seem as though all we are doing is bickering about
this resolution.... I would ask this body to stay calm and carry on...
Thanks!

In Liberty,
K. Brent Olsen, Psy.D.
Alternate, Region 4

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 21, 2018, 1:03:14 PM8/21/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Caryn Ann Harlos
My email was a routine reminder I do for each ballot and have from the
beginning.

Last term Starchild commented that reminders would be helpful and I agreed.

*Everyone* on this list has been very busy doing other things that I am
sure we could all recite.

While I have your attention- please consider donating to Brandon Phinney
this week

PhinneyNH.com

-Caryn Ann
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

unread,
Aug 21, 2018, 8:39:34 PM8/21/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Tim Hagan
I vote no.

---
Tim Hagan
Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee

On 2018-08-21 04:40, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> REMINDER - This ballot will expire on August 22, 2018.
>
> I have noted the following (please inform me of any corrections):
>
> Voting AYE: Adams, Harlos, Longstreth, Nekhaila, O’Donell, Smith
>
> Voting NAY: Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hewitt, Hogarth, Mattson,
> Merced, Phillips, Redpath, Sarwark, Van Horn
>
> Express Abstentions: None
>
> Not Voting: Hagan
>
> For a current tally of 6-10.
>
> Notes: Regional Alternate Adams’ aye vote is counted in the main
> tally as Regional Representative Bilyeu has not voted. Regional
> Alternate Hogarth’s nay vote is counted in the main tally as
> Regional
> Representative Lark has not voted. Regional Alternate Olsen had
> voted
> aye but that vote was superseded by Regional Representative Hewitt’s
> vote of nay. Regional Alternate Bowden had voted nay for the
> record
> though Regional Representative Longstreth’s aye vote is the one
> counted
> in the tally. Regional Alternates Lee, Lyons, and Anderson have not
> recorded votes.
>
> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:

> [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

> [4]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Susan, if you are referring to my comment, that is not what I
> said at
> all. If someone believes in property rights and supports the
> resolution, I'm not sure why they would vote against it. Simple
> as
> that. Waste of time or not, it is a resolution before us and
> one
> that
> either you support or do not. If you think it is a waste of
> time,
> discourage similar resolutions in the future. This is balloted,
> however, and must be voted on. You (collective sense) either
> agree with
> it or you do not. There is no in between.
> Richard
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:30 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via
> Lnc-business

> <[1[4]][5]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Asking questions is not rude. Insisting he doesn’t is.
> -Caryn Ann
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:23 AM Susan Hogarth via
> Lnc-business

> <[1][2][4[7]][7]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I vote No.
> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles clearly
> illustrate
> our
> position on Property Rights and I fully support
> them.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> [5][8]317-850-0726 Cell
> On [9]2018-08-15 06:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
> Lnc-business
> wrote:
> > BALLOT CORRECTION: Expiration date is AUGUST 22,
> 2018.
> > My mind has been left in July. September will
> really
> throw it
> for a
> > loop.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Caryn Ann
> Harlos

> > <[1][2][3][6[10]][8]carynan...@gmail.com>

> > Article 7:
> >
> > ***
> >
> > The National Committee may adopt public policy
> resolutions
> by a
> ¾
> > vote
> > with previous notice or by unanimous consent
> without
> previous
> > notice.
> >
> > =============================================
> >
> > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual
> tally of
> votes
> here:

> > [2][3][4][7][11][9]https://tinyur

> rl...@gmail.com
> > 2. [5][6][9][21][11]https://tinyurl.c


> om/lncvoting
> > 3. mailto:[6[22]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> > 4. mailto:[7[23]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR,
> HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [8][7][10[24]][12]richard.l...@lp.org
> [11][25]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[8][12[26]][13]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[9][13[27]][14]carynan...@gmail.com
> 3. [10][14][28][15]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[11][15[29]][16]carynan...@gmail.com
> 5. [12][16][30][17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 6. mailto:[13[31]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 7. mailto:[14[32]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 8. mailto:[15][17[33]][18]richard.l...@lp.org


> References
> 1. tel:[18][34]919-906-2106

> 2. mailto:[16][19[35]][19]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary
> - [17][36]Caryn.Ann.[37] Har...@LP.org or[38]
> Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[39]
> LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References

> 1. mailto:[20[40]][20]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[21[41]][21]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:[22[42]][22]carynan...@gmail.com
> 4. [23][43][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:[24[44]][24]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [25][45][25]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto:[26[46]][26]richard.l...@lp.org
> 8. mailto:[27[47]][27]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:[28[48]][28]carynan...@gmail.com
> 10. [29][49][29]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 11. mailto:[30[50]][30]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [31][51][31]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 13. mailto:[32[52]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 14. mailto:[33[53]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 15. mailto:[34[54]][32]richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto:[35[55]][33]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 17. mailto:[36[56]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [37[57]][34]richard.l...@lp.org
> [58]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto[59]:[35]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto[60]:[36]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 3. tel:[61](919) 906-2106

> 4. mailto[62]:[37]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 5. tel:[63](317) 850-0726

> 6. mailto[64]:[38]carynan...@gmail.com
> 7. [65][39]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto[66]:[40]carynan...@gmail.com
> 9. [67][41]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto[68]:[42]richard.l...@lp.org


> 11. tel:[69](931) 538-9300

> 12. mailto[70]:[43]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 13. mailto[71]:[44]carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. [72][45]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto[73]:[46]carynan...@gmail.com
> 16. [74][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 17. mailto[75]:[48]richard.l...@lp.org


> 18. tel:[76](919) 906-2106

> 19. mailto[77]:[49]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 20. mailto[78]:[50]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 21. mailto[79]:[51]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 22. mailto[80]:[52]carynan...@gmail.com
> 23. [81][53]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 24. mailto[82]:[54]carynan...@gmail.com
> 25. [83][55]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 26. mailto[84]:[56]richard.l...@lp.org
> 27. mailto[85]:[57]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 28. mailto[86]:[58]carynan...@gmail.com
> 29. [87][59]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 30. mailto[88]:[60]carynan...@gmail.com
> 31. [89][61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 32. mailto[90]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 33. mailto[91]:Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 34. mailto[92]:[62]richard.l...@lp.org
> 35. mailto[93]:[63]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 36. mailto[94]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 37. mailto[95]:[64]richard.l...@lp.org

> <[1][2[98]][66]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Asking questions is not rude. Insisting he doesn’t
> is.
> -Caryn Ann
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:23 AM Susan Hogarth via
> Lnc-business

> <[1][2][4][4[101]][68]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org>


> wrote:
> I vote No.
> The LP Platform and Statement of Principles
> clearly
> illustrate
> our
> position on Property Rights and I fully
> support
> them.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee

> [5][102]317-850-0726 Cell
> On [103]2018-08-15 06:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
> Lnc-business
> wrote:
> > BALLOT CORRECTION: Expiration date is
> AUGUST
> 22,
> 2018.
> > My mind has been left in July. September
> will
> really
> throw it
> for a
> > loop.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 3:56 AM, Caryn
> Ann
> Harlos
> > <[1][2][3][6][5[104]][69]carynannh

> > Article 7:
> >
> > ***
> >
> > The National Committee may adopt public
> policy
> resolutions
> by a
> ¾
> > vote
> > with previous notice or by unanimous
> consent
> without
> previous
> > notice.
> >
> >
> =============================================
> >
> > You can keep track of the Secretary's
> manual
> tally
> of
> votes
> here:

> > [2][3][4][7][6][105][70]https://ti
> nyurl.com/lncvoting.

> Votes are
> noted
> with a
> link to
> > the
> > actual ballot cast for verification. You
> can
> find
> the
> time
> that
> the
> > manual tally was last updated at the bottom
> of the
> sheet.
> >
> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> Committee
> Secretary
> -

> > [3][106]Caryn.Ann.[107] Har...@LP.org
> or[108]
> Secretary@L
> P.org.

> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> -

> [109] LPe...@LP.org


> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> >
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> Committee
> Secretary
> -

> > [4][110]Caryn.Ann.[111] Har...@LP.org
> or[112]
> Secretary@L
> P.org.

> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> -

> [113] LPe...@LP.org


> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >

> > 1. mailto:[4][5][8][7[114]][71]caryna
> nnha...@gmail.com
> > 2. [5][6][9][8][115][72]https://tinyu
> rl.com/lncvoting


> > 3. mailto:[6[116]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> > 4. mailto:[7[117]]Caryn.An...@LP.org


> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM,
> OR,
> HI, UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [8][7][10][9[118]][73]richard.l...@lp.org

> [11][119]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[8][12][10[120]][74]lnc-bus


> in...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[9][13][11[121]][75]carynan

> nha...@gmail.com
> 3. [10][14][12][122][76]https://tinyu
> rl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[11][15][13[123]][77]caryna
> nnha...@gmail.com
> 5. [12][16][14][124][78]https://tinyu
> rl.com/lncvoting


> 6. mailto:[13[125]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 7. mailto:[14[126]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 8. mailto:[15][17][15[127]][79]richar
> d.long...@lp.org
> References
> 1. tel:[18][128]919-906-2106


> 2. mailto:[16][19][16[129]][80]lnc-bu
> sin...@hq.lp.org

> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> Secretary

> - [17][130]Caryn.Ann.[131] Har...@LP.org or[132]

> Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[133]


> LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References

> 1. mailto:[20][17[134]][81]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[21][18[135]][82]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:[22][19[136]][83]carynan...@gmail.com
> 4. [23][20][137][84]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:[24][21[138]][85]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [25][22][139][86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto:[26][23[140]][87]richard.l...@lp.org
> 8. mailto:[27][24[141]][88]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:[28][25[142]][89]carynan...@gmail.com
> 10. [29][26][143][90]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 11. mailto:[30][27[144]][91]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [31][28][145][92]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 13. mailto:[32[146]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 14. mailto:[33[147]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 15. mailto:[34][29[148]][93]richard.l...@lp.org


> 16. mailto:[35][30[149]][94]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 17. mailto:[36[150]]Caryn.An...@LP.org


> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI,
> UT,
> WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee

> [37][31[151]][95]richard.l...@lp.org
> [152]931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[32[153]][96]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[33[154]][97]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 3. tel:[155](919) 906-2106

> 4. mailto:[34[156]][98]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 5. tel:[157](317) 850-0726

> 6. mailto:[35[158]][99]carynan...@gmail.com
> 7. [36][159][100]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto:[37[160]][101]carynan...@gmail.com
> 9. [38][161][102]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto:[39[162]][103]richard.l...@lp.org


> 11. tel:[163](931) 538-9300

> 12. mailto:[40[164]][104]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 13. mailto:[41[165]][105]carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. [42][166][106]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto:[43[167]][107]carynan...@gmail.com
> 16. [44][168][108]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 17. mailto:[45[169]][109]richard.l...@lp.org


> 18. tel:[170](919) 906-2106

> 19. mailto:[46[171]][110]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 20. mailto:[47[172]][111]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 21. mailto:[48[173]][112]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 22. mailto:[49[174]][113]carynan...@gmail.com
> 23. [50][175][114]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 24. mailto:[51[176]][115]carynan...@gmail.com
> 25. [52][177][116]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 26. mailto:[53[178]][117]richard.l...@lp.org
> 27. mailto:[54[179]][118]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 28. mailto:[55[180]][119]carynan...@gmail.com
> 29. [56][181][120]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 30. mailto:[57[182]][121]carynan...@gmail.com
> 31. [58][183][122]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 32. mailto:[59[184]]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 33. mailto:[60[185]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 34. mailto:[61[186]][123]richard.l...@lp.org
> 35. mailto:[62[187]][124]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 36. mailto:[63[188]]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 37. mailto:[64[189]][125]richard.l...@lp.org
> --
> Whitney Bilyeu


> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative

> [190]281.433.4966
> References
> 1. mailto[191]:[126]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto[192]:[127]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto[193]:[128]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto[194]:[129]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 5. mailto[195]:[130]carynan...@gmail.com
> 6. [196][131]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. mailto[197]:[132]carynan...@gmail.com
> 8. [198][133]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 9. mailto[199]:[134]richard.l...@lp.org
> 10. mailto[200]:[135]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 11. mailto[201]:[136]carynan...@gmail.com
> 12. [202][137]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 13. mailto[203]:[138]carynan...@gmail.com
> 14. [204][139]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 15. mailto[205]:[140]richard.l...@lp.org
> 16. mailto[206]:[141]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto[207]:[142]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 18. mailto[208]:[143]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 19. mailto[209]:[144]carynan...@gmail.com
> 20. [210][145]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 21. mailto[211]:[146]carynan...@gmail.com
> 22. [212][147]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 23. mailto[213]:[148]richard.l...@lp.org
> 24. mailto[214]:[149]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 25. mailto[215]:[150]carynan...@gmail.com
> 26. [216][151]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 27. mailto[217]:[152]carynan...@gmail.com
> 28. [218][153]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 29. mailto[219]:[154]richard.l...@lp.org
> 30. mailto[220]:[155]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 31. mailto[221]:[156]richard.l...@lp.org
> 32. mailto[222]:[157]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 33. mailto[223]:[158]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 34. mailto[224]:[159]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 35. mailto[225]:[160]carynan...@gmail.com
> 36. [226][161]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 37. mailto[227]:[162]carynan...@gmail.com
> 38. [228][163]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 39. mailto[229]:[164]richard.l...@lp.org
> 40. mailto[230]:[165]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 41. mailto[231]:[166]carynan...@gmail.com
> 42. [232][167]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 43. mailto[233]:[168]carynan...@gmail.com
> 44. [234][169]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 45. mailto[235]:[170]richard.l...@lp.org
> 46. mailto[236]:[171]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 47. mailto[237]:[172]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 48. mailto[238]:[173]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 49. mailto[239]:[174]carynan...@gmail.com
> 50. [240][175]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 51. mailto[241]:[176]carynan...@gmail.com
> 52. [242][177]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 53. mailto[243]:[178]richard.l...@lp.org
> 54. mailto[244]:[179]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 55. mailto[245]:[180]carynan...@gmail.com
> 56. [246][181]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 57. mailto[247]:[182]carynan...@gmail.com
> 58. [248][183]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 59. mailto[249]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 60. mailto[250]:Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 61. mailto[251]:[184]richard.l...@lp.org
> 62. mailto[252]:[185]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 63. mailto[253]:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 64. mailto[254]:[186]richard.l...@lp.org
> References
> 1. tel:217-412-5973


> 2. mailto:[187]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:
> [188]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:][189]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 5. mailto:][190]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 6. tel:919-906-2106
> 7. mailto:][191]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org


> 8. tel:317-850-0726
> 9. tel:2018-08-15 06

> 12. [194]http://Caryn.An/


> 13. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 14. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 15. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

> 16. [195]http://Caryn.An/


> 17. mailto: Har...@LP.org
> 18. mailto: Secr...@LP.org.
> 19. mailto: LPe...@LP.org

> 20. mailto:][196]carynan...@gmail.com
> 21. [197]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 22. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 23. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 24. mailto:][198]richard.l...@lp.org
> 25. tel:931.538.9300


> 26. mailto:][199]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 27. mailto:][200]carynan...@gmail.com

> 28. [201]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 29. mailto:][202]carynan...@gmail.com
> 30. [203]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting


> 31. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 32. mailto:]Caryn.An...@LP.org

> 33. mailto:][204]richard.l...@lp.org
> 34. tel:919-906-2106


> 35. mailto:][205]lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 36. [206]http://Caryn.An/

> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary

> - [327]Caryn.Ann. Har...@LP.org or Secr...@LP.org.


> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>

> 8. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com

> 36. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 66. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 67. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 68. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 88. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 104. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 111. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 118. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 135. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 142. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 149. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 165. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 172. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 179. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 211. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 212. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 213. mailto:richard.l...@lp.org
> 214. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org

> 253. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 254. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 255. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 256. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 257. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

> 264. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 265. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

> 305. mailto:carynan...@gmail.com
> 306. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 21, 2018, 11:44:20 PM8/21/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, James Lark
Dear colleagues:

    I hope all is well with you.  I am writing in my capacity as Region
5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.

    As always, thanks for your work for liberty.

    Take care,
    Jim

    James W. Lark, III
    Professor, Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
    Professor, Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and
Society
    Affiliated Faculty, Department of Statistics
    University of Virginia

    Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
    University of Virginia

    Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
-----
> [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to the
> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> [2]Caryn.An...@LP.org orSec...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -LP...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1.https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 2.mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 22, 2018, 7:26:07 PM8/22/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair)
Dear LNC,

As I stated in my in the initial vote, my door would be open for the entire LNC and Membership to discuss many of the strong emotions and sentiments on both sides of this motion.

In doing so I have decided to change my vote to Yes. Although in doing so I want to reaffirm the following.

My door is open to everyone on anything you think is important for the LNC to consider. I do encourage people to reach out to me so I can be an ally in your efforts. Although, as originally stated if a motion seems rushed or creates an environment where good faith disagreement can't be had I'll be pushing against it.
I've spoken to many of you on both sides and from the members of this body, all I've seen is good faith and passionate sentiments behind every vote. I ask that members who read this please respect my fellow LNC members and realize disagreement isn't and shouldn't be personal or an end to a conversation.
I hope that in the weeks to come we can continue to focus on committee assignments and candidate support as I've seen so many exciting candidates make exciting moves and hit amazing milestones, to members reading please find the entire list at LP.org/candidates.
So hopefully, with all these lessons learned I want to show my appreciation for those whose passion for our core values led to them to putting forth this motion with my vote. While this motion may not be passed I want you to know I have heard your concerns and hope we can ALL forward together on the work that needs doing.
I also reiterate my statement the other day regarding people vs ideas. As a party we are always inclusive of people who want to be part of what we’re building, but I hope those people in their participation in the exchanges of ideas with other members always come closer to our core values and further away from bad ideas that revolve around the compulsion of others and closer to the non-violent individualist world that I know our diverse membership wants to march towards through the success of our party.

In Liberty,


Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> [1][1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to the
> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> [2]Caryn.Ann. [2]Har...@LP.org or [3]Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - [4]LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. [5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 2. [6]mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 2. mailto:Har...@LP.org
> 3. mailto:Secr...@LP.org
> 4. mailto:LPe...@LP.org
> 5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 22, 2018, 7:49:57 PM8/22/18
to Libertarian National Committee list, Caryn Ann Harlos
Thank you Alex, I echo your sentiments, and since there seems to be some
residual issues, if I went overboard in my defense or advocacy and crossed
a line with anyone, please accept my deepest apologies. You can always
call me and yell at me. I miss Daniel Hayes calling me and yelling at me.
Please know my motivation is simple raw passion for our principles.

Alex also echoes something that is a real big deal to me. OPPOSE IDEAS,
don't oppose PEOPLE. There are many reasons for this, but here are a few:

1. It de-personalizes
2. It honours the whole human being by realizing that they are more than
walking containers for ideas, that they are more than their ideas, and
their value transcends their ideas.
3. People change. Treating ideas and people as interchangeable "bakes" in
an idea in an identity which makes a meeting of the minds and souls
difficult.

-Caryn Ann

PS: I will be repeating this is a new thread later that has nothing to do
with this vote.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
Lnc-business <lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Dear LNC,
>
> As I stated in my in the initial vote, my door would be open for the
> entire LNC and Membership to discuss many of the strong emotions and
> sentiments on both sides of this motion.
>
> In doing so I have decided to change my vote to Yes. Although in doing
> so I want to reaffirm the following.
>
> 1. My door is open to everyone on anything you think is important for
> the LNC to consider. I do encourage people to reach out to me so I
> can be an ally in your efforts. Although, as originally stated if a
> motion seems rushed or creates an environment where good faith
> disagreement can't be had I'll be pushing against it.
> 2. I've spoken to many of you on both sides and from the members of
> this body, all I've seen is good faith and passionate sentiments
> behind every vote. I ask that members who read this please respect
> my fellow LNC members and realize disagreement isn't and shouldn't
> be personal or an end to a conversation.
> 3. I hope that in the weeks to come we can continue to focus on
> committee assignments and candidate support as I've seen so many
> exciting candidates make exciting moves and hit amazing milestones,
> to members reading please find the entire list at
> [1]LP.org/candidates.
> 4. So hopefully, with all these lessons learned I want to show my
> appreciation for those whose passion for our core values led to
> them to putting forth this motion with my vote. While this motion
> may not be passed I want you to know I have heard your concerns and
> hope we can ALL forward together on the work that needs doing.
> 5. I also reiterate my statement the other day regarding people vs
> ideas. As a party we are always inclusive of people who want to be
> part of what we’re building, but I hope those people in their
> participation in the exchanges of ideas with other members always
> come closer to our core values and further away from bad ideas that
> revolve around the compulsion of others and closer to the
> non-violent individualist world that I know our diverse membership
> wants to march towards through the success of our party.
>
> In Liberty,
>
> Alex Merced
> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
>
> On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:43 PM, James Lark via Lnc-business
> [1][1][3]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link
> to the
> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
> manual tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> [2]Caryn.Ann. [2][4]Har...@LP.org or [3][5]Secr...@LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - [4][6]LPe...@LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References
> 1. [5][7]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 2. [6][8]mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> References
> 1. [9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 2. [10]mailto:Har...@LP.org
> 3. [11]mailto:Secr...@LP.org
> 4. [12]mailto:LPe...@LP.org
> 5. [13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. [14]mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1. http://LP.org/candidates
> 2. mailto:lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org
> 3. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:Har...@LP.org
> 5. mailto:Secr...@LP.org
> 6. mailto:LPe...@LP.org
> 7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto:Har...@LP.org
> 11. mailto:Secr...@LP.org
> 12. mailto:LPe...@LP.org
> 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 14. mailto:Caryn.An...@LP.org
>



--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Har...@LP.org <Caryn.An...@LP.org> or Secr...@LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPe...@LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 22, 2018, 7:58:14 PM8/22/18
to lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org, Whitney Bilyeu
I will let my alternate's vote stand.




--
*Whitney Bilyeu*
Libertarian National Committee
Region 7 Representative
281.433.4966

lnc-...@hq.lp.org

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Aug 23, 2018, 4:29:43 AM8/23/18
to Libertarian National Committee list, Caryn Ann Harlos
Voting has ENDED for *Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION*


All names are listed alphabetically by surname.


Motion: Move to adopt the following resolution:


WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and therefore the
right of privatization of property as an extension of the individual;


WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party explicitly
supports the right to private property ownership, including the right to do
business utilizing that property as capital;


WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of individuals
to own private property including land, structures, natural resources and
other private space through homesteading, purchase, and other lawful

libertarian means;


WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not limited to land
and housing, does not require continual or personal use to exist as justly
owned property unless otherwise abandoned;


WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the Libertarian Party
since its inception;


THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property ownership
schemes, including the collectivization of property, unlawful usurpation of
property, and incorrect characterizations of private property, unless
otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, are incompatible with the
philosophy of the Libertarian Party.


Co-Sponsors: Caryn Ann Harlos, Richard Longstreth, Steven Nekhaila, Justin
O’Donnell, Joshua Smith


Voting AYE: *Adams*, Harlos, Longstreth, Merced, Nekhaila, O’Donell, Smith


Voting NAY: Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Hewitt, Lark, Mattson,
Phillips, Redpath, Sarwark, Van Horn


Express Abstention: None


No Vote Cast: None (see notes).


*With a final vote tally of 7-10 the motion FAILS.*


*Notes:* Regional Alternate *Adams*’ aye vote is counted in the main
tally as Regional Representative Bilyeu opted to waive her right to
vote. Regional
Alternate *Hogarth*’s nay vote is not counted in the main tally as Regional
Representative Lark recorded a vote. Regional Alternate *Olsen* had voted
aye but that vote was superseded by Regional Representative Hewitt’s vote
of nay. Regional Alternate *Lyons* had voted nay but that vote was
superseded by Regional Representative O’Donnell’s vote of aye. Regional
Alternate *Bowden* had voted nay for the record though Regional
Representative Longstreth’s aye vote is the one counted in the tally.
Regional

Alternates *Anderson, Lee,* and *Nanna* have not recorded votes.


You can view the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting. Votes are noted with a link to the actual
ballot cast for verification.


Please notify me of any discrepancies.






On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:57 PM Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business <
lnc-bu...@hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I will let my alternate's vote stand.
> --
> Whitney Bilyeu
> Libertarian National Committee
> Region 7 Representative
> 281.433.4966
>


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