Debian with HP ProLiant DL120 G7
Aniruddha
ProLiant DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special
drivers necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and
Suse are supported although HP does have an Debian page.
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
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William Hopkins
> I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP
> ProLiant DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special
> drivers necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and
> Suse are supported although HP does have an Debian page.
> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
drivers built in to their kernels that aren't in the main tree.
I can't say for sure regarding models, but I've installed linux on hundreds of
HP servers so it's likely to work.
Your best bet is to give it a go and see!
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Camaleón
> On 07/07/11 at 05:17pm, Aniruddha wrote:
>> I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP ProLiant
>> DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special drivers
>> necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and Suse are
>> supported although HP does have an Debian page.
>> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
>
> IMO, linux is linux. I find it unlikely that RedHat and SuSE have custom
> drivers built in to their kernels that aren't in the main tree.
It's very common that in these servers, RAID controller drivers -for
instance- are only available for the supported OSes and specific kernel
version so careful with that.
> I can't say for sure regarding models, but I've installed linux on
> hundreds of HP servers so it's likely to work.
>
> Your best bet is to give it a go and see!
It looks to me that HP is Debian friendly when it comes to mid-range/high-
end server models (DL-3xx and upper) but for low-end models things change
a lot and depending on the user needs it can be a problem.
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Matt Richardson
> On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:25:19 -0400, William Hopkins wrote:
>
>> On 07/07/11 at 05:17pm, Aniruddha wrote:
>>> I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP ProLiant
>>> DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special drivers
>>> necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and Suse are
>>> supported although HP does have an Debian page.
>>> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
>>
>> IMO, linux is linux. I find it unlikely that RedHat and SuSE have custom
>> drivers built in to their kernels that aren't in the main tree.
>
> It's very common that in these servers, RAID controller drivers -for
> instance- are only available for the supported OSes and specific kernel
> version so careful with that.
>
>> I can't say for sure regarding models, but I've installed linux on
>> hundreds of HP servers so it's likely to work.
>>
>> Your best bet is to give it a go and see!
>
> It looks to me that HP is Debian friendly when it comes to mid-range/high-
> end server models (DL-3xx and upper) but for low-end models things change
> a lot and depending on the user needs it can be a problem.
>
I didn't see your model on the Debian wiki page, but I bet it works
anyway. I spoke to one of the HP open source people at a conference
and he more or less confirmed that despite the lack of official
support from HP, Debian runs on their hardware. For peace of mind, I
would look at the potentially odd stuff like the raid controller and
make sure you can either run it with open drivers or that a blob is
available for it.
http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant
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Camaleón
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Camaleón <noel...@gmail.com> wrote:
(...)
>>> I can't say for sure regarding models, but I've installed linux on
>>> hundreds of HP servers so it's likely to work.
>>>
>>> Your best bet is to give it a go and see!
>>
>> It looks to me that HP is Debian friendly when it comes to
>> mid-range/high- end server models (DL-3xx and upper) but for low-end
>> models things change a lot and depending on the user needs it can be a
>> problem.
>>
>>
> I didn't see your model on the Debian wiki page, but I bet it works
> anyway. I spoke to one of the HP open source people at a conference and
> he more or less confirmed that despite the lack of official support from
> HP, Debian runs on their hardware. For peace of mind, I would look at
> the potentially odd stuff like the raid controller and make sure you can
> either run it with open drivers or that a blob is available for it.
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant
I also think so but one thing is getting it running and another one is
making use of server's specific features, like the RAID controller (if
present).
For a normal use, there should be no problems or at least no more than
the usual ones.
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Aniruddha
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/14009_na/14009_na.HTML
The smart array might be a problem. But overall it should work. It is
especially good to know HP is aware and supportive of Debian. Here are
the specs in short:
* Intel® Xeon® E3-1220 (3.10GHz/4-core/8MB/80W,, 1333, Turbo 1/2/3/4) Processor
* HP Smart Array B110i
* HP NC112i 1-port Ethernet Server (Intel 82574L chipset)
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Camaleón
> Thanks for the help! I've got the complete specs here:
> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/14009_na/14009_na.HTML The
> smart array might be a problem. But overall it should work. It is
> especially good to know HP is aware and supportive of Debian. Here are
> the specs in short:
>
> * Intel® Xeon® E3-1220 (3.10GHz/4-core/8MB/80W,, 1333, Turbo 1/2/3/4)
> Processor
> * HP Smart Array B110i
> * HP NC112i 1-port Ethernet Server (Intel 82574L chipset)
Depending on your hard disk configuration, you may want to consider a
more powerful RAID card that provides additional raid levels plus battery
backup or at least adding the hot-plug advanced pack...
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frank thyes
> I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP
> ProLiant DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special
> drivers necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and
> Suse are supported although HP does have an Debian page.
> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
I have a lot of hp g7 boxes installed with squeeze using FAI.
Regards
Frank
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Aniruddha
> Depending on your hard disk configuration, you may want to consider a
> more powerful RAID card that provides additional raid levels plus battery
> backup or at least adding the hot-plug advanced pack...
>
samba fileserver. There is no need for 24/7 uptime
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Aniruddha
> On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 17:17 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
>
>> I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP
>> ProLiant DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special
>> drivers necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and
>> Suse are supported although HP does have an Debian page.
>> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
>
> I have a lot of hp g7 boxes installed with squeeze using FAI.
>
Thanks. It's good to know these servers work properly with Debian in
production :-)
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shawn wilson
On Jul 7, 2011 12:20 PM, "Camaleón" <noel...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
>
> I also think so but one thing is getting it running and another one is
> making use of server's specific features, like the RAID controller (if
> present).
>
To me that is one in the same. No raid, no disk, no install. But, have no fear - you'll have a good idea how long the install is liable to take once you try to start the install. If you don't see any usable disks it might take a bit longer :)
That said, I've never had a problem with ProLiant boxes. Though I don't have hundreds of installs on them (probably 50+) of just 3 models (spanning the years)... I can tell you everything you might to know about the dl360. I've had tons of gripes about Dell hardware though.
Camaleón
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Camaleón <noel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Depending on your hard disk configuration, you may want to consider a
>> more powerful RAID card that provides additional raid levels plus
>> battery backup or at least adding the hot-plug advanced pack...
>>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I will use this server as a no-frills samba
> fileserver. There is no need for 24/7 uptime
A RAID system is not just to have a 24/7 uptime but to prevent data loss
due to a hard disk malfunction.
But if you are not planning to make use of the embedded RAID controller
facility at all then it's fine. You've been already warned... ;-)
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Camaleón
> On Jul 7, 2011 12:20 PM, "Camaleón" <noel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>
>> I also think so but one thing is getting it running and another one is
>> making use of server's specific features, like the RAID controller (if
>> present).
>>
>>
> To me that is one in the same. No raid, no disk, no install. But, have
> no fear - you'll have a good idea how long the install is liable to take
> once you try to start the install. If you don't see any usable disks it
> might take a bit longer :)
If don't see any disk is when you start sweating :-P
> That said, I've never had a problem with ProLiant boxes. Though I don't
> have hundreds of installs on them (probably 50+) of just 3 models
> (spanning the years)... I can tell you everything you might to know
> about the dl360. I've had tons of gripes about Dell hardware though.
Yep, that's what I said before: Debian seems to be in love with HP mid-
range/high-end HP racked Proliant servers (DL-3xxx and upwards). The
problem could be with their low-end models, but again, if no RAID setup
is in mind, HP makes a very good hardware, I agree.
Stan Hoeppner
> On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 17:17 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
>
>> I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP
>> ProLiant DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special
>> drivers necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and
>> Suse are supported although HP does have an Debian page.
>> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
>
> I have a lot of hp g7 boxes installed with squeeze using FAI.
HP has many Proliant models with the "G7" suffix, and they all have
different chipsets under the hood. So this statement is totally
unhelpful to the OP.
Think "Civic EX", "Accord EX", etc.
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Stan Hoeppner
> I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP
> ProLiant DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special
> drivers necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and
> Suse are supported although HP does have an Debian page.
> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
The DL120 G7 has the Intel C200 chipset with 6 integrated SATA3 ports.
This is supported by the standard Debian kernels AFAIK with the latest
AHCI driver. Connect the 4 drive backplane to 4 of these ports and you
should be fine. If you have the "base" model, do not use the included
Smart Array B110i. It is a fakeraid solution and on top of that
requires an extra license key to enable it. Thus you're better off
using Linux software RAID.
If you want a fully supported real PCIe RAID card, buy an LSI and avoid
all the HP nonsense required to enable all the features that LSI (and
others) gives you out of the box.
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frank thyes
> On 7/7/2011 3:10 PM, frank thyes wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 17:17 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP
> >> ProLiant DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special
> >> drivers necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and
> >> Suse are supported although HP does have an Debian page.
> >> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
> >
> > I have a lot of hp g7 boxes installed with squeeze using FAI.
>
> HP has many Proliant models with the "G7" suffix, and they all have
> different chipsets under the hood. So this statement is totally
> unhelpful to the OP.
No it isn't. A "lot" implies for me different boxes and different chip
sets as well.
Frank
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shawn wilson
On Jul 8, 2011 8:14 PM, "Stan Hoeppner" <st...@hardwarefreak.com> wrote:
>
> HP has many Proliant models with the "G7" suffix, and they all have
> different chipsets under the hood. So this statement is totally
> unhelpful to the OP.
>
> Think "Civic EX", "Accord EX", etc.
>
Yes, that's why we weren't comparing g7's (generation 7), which is more along the lines of comparing model year cars. It seems that they started with g1 when HP got Compaq and have done a new generation about every year (I'm not a salesman so I'm probably wrong on this point, but wiki if you're really interested).
So, if someone compares a dl120g3 with a dl120g4 I might comment on using such an old box for a server but wouldn't expect the implied or written support to change much.
Dan
> I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP
> ProLiant DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special
> drivers necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and
> Suse are supported although HP does have an Debian page.
> http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
>
Hi,
Recently I installed Debian on a HP ProLiant ML110 G6. and I am very
happy with the performance.
I didn't install any driver, but I didn't install the X server. But I
also think the X-server should work out of the box. I tried an old
live Ubuntu CD distribution and the X-server worked fine.
Dan
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shawn wilson
On Jul 12, 2011 5:12 PM, "Dan" <gan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Aniruddha <mailing...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I wonder if anyone has experience with installing Debian on HP
> > ProLiant DL120 G7. Does it work out-of-the-box? Or are there special
> > drivers necessary to get these working? Officially only Red Hat and
> > Suse are supported although HP does have an Debian page.
> > http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/software/debian/index.html
> >
>
> Hi,
> Recently I installed Debian on a HP ProLiant ML110 G6. and I am very
> happy with the performance.
>
> I didn't install any driver, but I didn't install the X server. But I
> also think the X-server should work out of the box. I tried an old
> live Ubuntu CD distribution and the X-server worked fine.
>
I never really looked into it but have experienced issues with x on some models with the front vga port.