I cannot comment on the completeness or incompleteness of the list, as I am not a domain expert. I’m very happy to see Career Clusters in there, and also think (at the moment) that keeping English Language Development (I think of it more as English as a Second Language) and English Language Arts separate was a good idea. I had a comment or two on the Science sheet, and one on the Math sheet.
Speaking as a developer, you’re going to have to strike a balance between comprehensiveness, granularity, and ease of use. Our experience in Illinois has been that this is a difficult balance to find. Some in the working group wanted fine granularity, which was great until people tried to use it and were simply overwhelmed by the number of choices. In other areas, we found we needed to expand the list as it didn’t cover everything we needed it to (much as you all found out with your original subject list). How the list is presented to the user is key as well, so they don’t feel overwhelmed, yet can easily find what they’re looking for.
Good luck, I’ll follow the discussion and see how things develop. Thanks for all your work in putting this list together.
Jerome Grimmer
Applications Analyst,
Southern Illinois University Carbondale
"If you think you're too small to make a difference, you've never spent a night with a mosquito." - An African Proverb
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Joe,
Welcome to a mine field. Your lists seems like a good one, but there is no correct list. This is a big part of the problem, each taxonomy is crafted for some specific use or methodology. They have similar structures but different levels of granularity and ways to approach segmentation. None the less, having something everyone can point to, use and then extended is a really good idea. Perhaps mining all the subjects already published in the LR and seeing how common they are (Or are not) might be a good idea.
-Joshua Marks
Curriki
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At the beginning of this year we started actively supporting the EasyPublish tool, for publishers that wanted to put a set of resources into the Learning Registry without investing too much time or energy into the more technical ways of connecting their sites or tools to LR APIs. We also started working on a search widget to replace the one you now see on FREE.ed.gov and the Learning Registry website. Currently, all 3 of these share the same subject area directory, which we immediately found to be incomplete. For instance, Countries & Continents has sub-topics for 1) Africa, 2) Artic [sic], Antarctica, and 3) Other Countries and Continents.... and that's it.
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This is indeed a tricky matter. Attempting to categorize all human knowledge is not going to be easy or universally agreeable. I think the best approach is to leave this as a free-text field, let the user enter whatever they think is best, and treat it as one or more keywords/phrases. Otherwise you'll end up with a list that, at best, resembles a hierarchy of learning standards for every subject...and at worst, a site map of Wikipedia.
If you don't want to go free-text, then I'd say keep it simple--come up with a very broad, concise list of subjects that learning is generally divided up into, with maybe one layer of depth below that (e.g., algebra, calculus, etc., under Math), and you will have a good set of browsing-friendly topics that people aren't going to be overwhelmed by. I work with Jerome, and in our experience, as he indicated, having too many features (and scaring users off from using the tool at all) is often worse than having too few (and getting weaker granularity).
Apologies for the delay in posting this--We've been pretty swamped here.
During last week's dev call, I was asked to post the categories and tags the Illinois team is using for our metadata. We have that posted here:
http://ilsharedlearning.org/DevDoc/SitePages/OERMetadata.aspx
Note that not all of this is fully implemented yet--our project is still a work in progress. We're also considering dropping fields like Group Type, so this list is by no means final. But there's the information for anyone that would like it.
I think the longer-term solution is to put the URL into the subject/about tag or use the alignmentObject to reference a unique targetUrl for one or more applicable subject areas. (Phil Barker posted a good example of "about" with both a URL and label recently on the LRMI thread.) I think for this to be most effective the targetUrl must resolve to a page that is tagged with the (1) name of the subject code system / subject taxonomy / framework, (2) the subject label / node name, (3) a definition statement describing the subject. Search tools need both a unique identifier (url) for the subject within the context of a framework AND the human readable labels of the framework and the subject/topic within that framework.
Dear all,
I couldn't agree more on the vision expressed by Stuart.
Yet, for a number of understandable reasons, there is plenty of metadata already available (and more added every day) based on the traditional “term-based” approach, rather than the “concept-based” (or semantic, or linked data) approach.
Metadata enrichment is a potential solution to bridge from “term-based” (unstructured) metadata to “concept-based” (structured) metadata, basically (automatically / semi automatically) associating concepts (formal meaning) to terms (free text).
This technique could be used to enhance legacy metadata.
Possibly, it could be used also to simplify the tagging of new resources, by mapping terms to concepts in the tagging tool. Or, in this specific case, the tagging tool could just let the user select a formal vocabulary, navigate through it's structure and identify the (human readable) target concept?
Any comment/experience on that?
Thank you,
Renato
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