RE: Iran busts US-linked internet spy gang
Sid Badakhsh
Thanks,
Sid
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:14:47 -0400
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Ben Khosrownia
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Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 6:45:03 AM
Subject: RE: Iran busts US-linked internet spy gang
Bench
Just a correction. His name is Batebi NOT Abtahi. The latter was also arrested after the election, but he was descent enough to regret his unlawful campaign. Please, take a look at the following two pictures of the former:
ترحم بر پلنگ تيز دندان ... ستمکاری بود بر گوسفندان
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Mohamad Purqurian
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Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Iran busts US-linked internet spy gang
Did you notice the name of one of these guys Abtahi. You know the guy who said he was imprisoned in Iran because his picture was taken by one of the U.S. magazines when he held a blood stained shirt. The same guy who now works for VOA! The same guy who recently gave an interview about how he was abused by the Iranian gov. and then filmed himself as he escaped Iran via the Kurdish area in Iraq. These guys all turn out to be spies for the U.S. Gov.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Ben Khosrownia wrote:
There are a lot more of such criminals that Iran ought to arrest and put away for life.
Ben
From: Sid Badakhsh
Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 6:45:03 AM
Subject: RE: Iran busts US-linked internet spy gang
Thank you Iran! I hope they keep this up and obliterate every one of these
bastards who are willing to sell their nation to the highest bidder.
These people are not civilized and do not deserve to be treated as civilized
people! They need to be crushed and I am glad Iranian authorities are finally
coming to the same conclusion.
Thanks,
Sid
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:14:47
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Subject: Fwd: Iran busts US-linked internet spy gang
From: massy
kazem alamdari
Massy Homayouni
تجمع مقابل منزل مهدی کروبی "در اعتراض به اقدامات سران فتنه" (گزارش تصویری)، برنا
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Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 12:40:44 AM
Subject: State vandalism
State vandalism. Is it another step toward military dictatorship?
فیلم حمله به منزل مهدی کروبی + یک روز بعد
http://news.gooya.com/didaniha/archives/2010/03/101874.php
http://news.gooya.com/didaniha/archives/2010/03/101867.php
Massy Homayouni
"It does not appear that there is widespread violence, but the security forces are apparently being harassed, having firecrackers thrown at them from rooftops or alleys. Also, there are widespread reports that pictures of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and President Ahmadinejad have been distributed and are being lit on fire all over the major cities."
I guess it is also common sense to obtain and quote information from NCRI?
Regards
Massy
11:05 PM (GMT, Iran UTC+3:30)
We’re back. I’ll be trying to wrap up the news of the day and supplying some videos, so stay tuned, but let me try to sum up what has happened in Iran.
There were protests, there were some clashes, and there were some arrests, but to characterize tonight as a major protest event is inaccurate. The buzz about today has always been that there would not be organized anti-government protests, and as a result some might characterize tonight as a very small victory for the Green Movement. People did show their resistance to the regime.
But this was far from a game-changing evening. The Green Movement didn’t rise up tonight, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t there. The fact that there is so much news to sort through tonight is a testament to the fact that this is far from over.
5:46 PM (GMT, Iran UTC+3:30)
According to an opposition website, at least 83 have been injured tonight in Iran. Also, there are confirmed reports of more than 60 fire department responses already.
It does not appear that there is widespread violence, but the security forces are apparently being harassed, having firecrackers thrown at them from rooftops or alleys. Also, there are widespread reports that pictures of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and President Ahmadinejad have been distributed and are being lit on fire all over the major cities.
5:04 PM (GMT, Iran UTC+3:30)
At least three people have been arrested in Enghelab Square, Tehran.
Also, in the video below, uploaded earlier today, you can see a protester spray-painting “Death to Khamenei” on a wall in Tabriz.
4:44 PM (GMT, Iran UTC+3:30)
The National Council of Resistance of Iran (that has ties with the PMOI) is reporting the following unconfirmed report:
NCRI – At 8:30 a.m. local time today, the young people confronted the State Security Forces (SSF) on the eastern side of Azadi Square by throwing stones.
The SSF agents Monday evening removed several large posters of the regime’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei from Azadi Square and Arya Shahr in fear of the young people to set fire to them.
Groups of suppressive forces are stationed throughout Azadi Street.
3:47 PM (GMT, Iran UTC+3:30)
Latest on Twitter:
RT@homylafayette: News of clashes north of Hemmat Highway, Ghods township, Tehran. Fireworks thrown at security forces.RT @homylafayette: News of clashes north of Hemmat Highway, Ghods township, Tehran. Fireworks thrown at security forces.
3:37 PM (GMT, Iran UTC+3:30) False Positives
The news out of Iran is spotty, and this is being compounded by the nature of the Fire Festival celebration. There are reports of smoke, loud explosions, and chants all over Iran – BUT these are all part of the celebration itself.
However, the reports are the security is very tight. Also, this report just came in:
RT @homylafayette: Second source: heavy clashes in Enghelab Square. Still not dark, but already explosions everywhere. #iranelection
There is little evidence of sustained clashes between revelers and security forces, but I’ll be keeping an eye on the situation there all day.
3:05 PM (GMT, Iran UTC+3:30)
The latest pictures from Iran’s Chaharshanbeh Suri, the Feast of Fire:
There are reports of sporadic clashes, and that the government has stopped the sale of gasoline (presumably because of its flammable effects).
2:49 PM (GMT, Iran UTC+3:30)
I’m following some of the developments in Iran. They’re coming fast a furious, so let’s get started.
Yesterday, the Iranian government announced that it was banning Iran’s largest pro-reform political party, Mosharekat. Also, yesterday reformist leader Mehdi Karroubi’s apartment complex was attacked (see video, courtesy of Enduring America, below).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-miller/common-sense-in-iran_b_501157.html
James Miller
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Posted: March 16, 2010 02:15 PM
Common Sense In Iran
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In January, 1776, Thomas Paine wrote a small pamphlet called Common Sense. He argued that the King of England had injured the colonial people, and the only option left for the colonists was to sever this broken trust and institute a government of their own. Within months his words had convinced tens of thousands that the King had broken his social contract; and so the American people declared independence to establish a government free from tyranny.
Since the American Revolution, democracy has swept across the entire globe wherever the freedom to share ideas has been permitted. Often, however, it has taken the acts of brave men and women to spread the ideology of democracy, and with it the hope of freedom, because the ability to speak freely is not always and everywhere a guaranteed right.
Today, the youth of Iran have declared their own ideological revolution. They are tired of their failed theocratic state, of the illusion of democracy, and of cultural and international isolation. To them, the legacy of the Islamic Revolution of 1979 is oppression instead of freedom. The economy of Iran is suffering because of the government's unwillingness to cooperate with the international community. Women are told what they can wear, what they can say, what they can and cannot do. The rights of men are only marginally better. People are often imprisoned, and sometimes stoned to death, for breaking these rules. However, the largest obstacle from seeing change in Iran is that journalists who report on this situation are thrown in prison (in fact, 1/3 of all journalists in prison, all over the world, are in Iran). Without the voices of dissent, the Iranian Regime has felt empowered to trample the rights of its citizens.
And so the young Iranians used the power that they believed they had, and they voted for change. They awoke on June 13th to find that the allegations of fraud were now painfully confirmed. Ahmadinejad, the man who represents everything that the youth of Iran are not, was again president. How could this be? How is it possible Ahmadinejad had a massive disapproval rating, and yet could win with a huge majority of the votes?
So, the Iranian government had failed the people, once again, and now they had only one option left. They took to the streets.
And they've paid the price for wanting freedom. Thousands have been arrested or detained since June 2009. Over 400 people have been publicly executed last year alone. At least 30 people have been killed on the streets. The government is cracking down on the people for religious and ideological differences, and as the New York Times pointed out last week, the problem is just getting worse.
And it will continue to get worse as long as their story remains untold. The success of the Iranian people has been hindered because their Thomas Paine has been silenced. The government is suppressing speech, slowing and censoring the Internet, and stopping text-messaging services, while denying Iranians the right to assembly. Without effective communication, and with government supporters ready to imprison, hang, or bludgeon any opponents, the transition from a theocratic despotism to an enlightened democracy in the heart of the Middle East will be painfully slow.
I've been following the opposition to the Iranian regime since before the first votes were cast last June. I've been part of a global network of journalists, s, and Iranian expatriates who have been trying to tell the story of the true Iran, trying to give voice to the Iranian people. We've been trying to remind the world that all that the youth of Iran want is prosperity, and freedom.
And who are these Iranians? The average age of an Iranian is 28, and the majority of the people there are less than 35 years old, making Iran one of the youngest countries on the globe. The old wars and injustices are material from their history books. In their eyes, Israel was a problem their grandparents faced. The economic colonialism of the Shah was their parent's battle. The Iran-Iraq War is a distant memory of their childhood. What they know now is that the possibilities for the world in the 21st century are bright, and their own government's refusal to change is dimming that future. They are religious and non-religious, Muslim and non-Muslim, men and women, young and even sometimes old, and they are EXACTLY the kind of people that we need now. They desire a free, secular, cooperative Iran that can be a political, economic, and intellectual partner with the global community.
This message is catching on. Last week, the Obama administration loosened sanctions on certain communications technologies. It seems that their idea is to let software and hardware into the country, in the hopes that the people there will be able to use it to give voice to their story. However, as long as the government of Iran controls the Internet of Iran, the opposition to the regime will only be, at best, one step ahead of their oppressors.
We've spent seven years trying to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people, when we've already won the Iranians. War will ruin these prospects. The rest of the world needs to help the Iranian people get Internet access, free from their government's tyranny, and then we can watch while Iran sets itself free. It won't happen overnight, because there isn't an ocean between the Iranian people and their tyrants, but if the Iranians can broadcast their voice, then Common Sense tells us they will find their independence.
James Miller is the creator of Dissected News, where you can follow the latest developments in Iran.
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I am not sure why you would call it "state vandalism"- it is pathetic that everything is blamed on the state. Again, as someone who just came back from Iran, I witnessed this by trend by the people I came in contact with and was dumbfounded. I beg your indulgence to give some examples.
A couple I know who have 3 sons and are what you would call "taghouti", or Westernized, had their middle son kidnapped. I did not learn of this until their son was safely returned to them. He is 15 - but it appears that there was an identity mistake and he was taken for someone else either for ransom or because the people who took him had a bone to pick with the parents of the intended victim. This is the first I had come across such thing but course we know of kidnappings. The people I was in touch with were saying: "death to this regime for us not to have any security" or "morde shoore in regime ro bebaran ke amniyat nadarim." I was dumbfounded. I said why do you blame it on the regime? And they said if the country was safe they would not kidnap my son and others in the room agreed. I told them do you have any idea how many people in America get kidnapped? And they told me why do you stay in America in the most sarcastic voice imaginable.
On another occasion the guy from the city turned off the water in the building where I was staying saying they had not paid the bill. When they showed they had in fact paid, they immediately turned on the bill. According to a more informed - and perhaps more reasonable person, the government has computerized the system and there are glitches. But the abuse I heard was just too much for my ears. it was all Ahmadinejad and the IRI. At this point I was too intimidated to say that mistakes happen. I do not get intimidated in this country, even though I think that Mossad may come after me, or the CIA, but in Iran, well, they are vicious.
Back home in the U.S., my husband once assured that I was a little over my jetlag asked if he could talk to me. He said he did not want to talk to me because he knew in Iran I was facing some personal issues that were unpleasant. In 2006 we had sold a house and paid all the taxes etc. but it seems that there was a mix up. A notice had come for us to pay taxes. My husband had called twice to explain this but without success. In my absence a lien had been placed against our current home. After a third call, finally he managed to explain to a live person that there was nothing due and apparently by the end of the month the lien is supposed to be lifted. Imagine the same scenario in Iran. I think that the TB&G as some call them here would have set the government offices on fire!!
Frankly, as I said in my observations of the people in Tehran, or those I came in contact with, I am truly disgusted with the way people behave, but more so, with the way people think they know what is going on there. Most decent Iranians, and I say decent, do not want us and the Imperial US to interfere with Iran and their lives. So all the Chalabis can take a hike. The best we can do is to make sure that Iran is not attacked - sanctions hurt them, but stay out of their lives. Who the hell are we to decide what is best for them.
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Subject: State vandalism
Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich
It would be interesting to know when Mr. Miller was last in Iran - or at least where he gets his information. True, the Tehranis are firmly against Ahamdinejad -- but if you speak to the maids in the households as I did, once they feel unthreatened, they will tell you that all their relatives voted for Ahmadinejad because he took roads and gas to their villages. I am guessing this adds up to far more votes than the Tehranis. Now many don't like the idea of the poor having a voice, but isn't this the definition of a "revolution"?
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Reza Shirazi
rich and their representatives don't want it to pass while all the poor want it passed
Reza Shirazi
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Subject: RE: Common Sense In Iran
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:04:13 -0700
Massy Homayouni
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Bakhtiarnejad, Esfandiar
Soraya Jaan,
I think the more you/we replay to folks like "Kazim Agha" and the like, the more we qualify their rumors. These folks' job is to distract us from addressing the real issue. Their job is to propagate "misinformation, intentional misinterpretation of issues and circulate rumors", a tactic effectively being used by the Israel and U.S.
If you think I am wrong. Just wait til "Kazim Agha" reads my note and starts his usual propaganda stuff. I have nothing against him or others in this group, but they are not hear to help, they are here to disunite and mislead and derail our energy.
Esfandiar,
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Subject: Re: State vandalism
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Subject: RE: State vandalism
I am not sure why you would call it "state vandalism"- it is pathetic that everything is blamed on the state. Again, as someone who just came back from Iran , I witnessed this by trend by the people I came in contact with and was dumbfounded. I beg your indulgence to give some examples.
A couple I know who have 3 sons and are what you would call "taghouti", or Westernized, had their middle son kidnapped. I did not learn of this until their son was safely returned to them. He is 15 - but it appears that there was an identity mistake and he was taken for someone else either for ransom or because the people who took him had a bone to pick with the parents of the intended victim. This is the first I had come across such thing but course we know of kidnappings. The people I was in touch with were saying: "death to this regime for us not to have any security" or "morde shoore in regime ro bebaran ke amniyat nadarim." I was dumbfounded. I said why do you blame it on the regime? And they said if the country was safe they would not kidnap my son and others in the room agreed. I told them do you have any idea how many people in America get kidnapped? And they told me why do you stay in America in the most sarcastic voice imaginable.
On another occasion the guy from the city turned off the water in the building where I was staying saying they had not paid the bill. When they showed they had in fact paid, they immediately turned on the bill. According to a more informed - and perhaps more reasonable person, the government has computerized the system and there are glitches. But the abuse I heard was just too much for my ears. it was all Ahmadinejad and the IRI. At this point I was too intimidated to say that mistakes happen. I do not get intimidated in this country, even though I think that Mossad may come after me, or the CIA, but in Iran , well, they are vicious.
Back home in the U.S. , my husband once assured that I was a little over my jetlag asked if he could talk to me. He said he did not want to talk to me because he knew in Iran I was facing some personal issues that were unpleasant. In 2006 we had sold a house and paid all the taxes etc. but it seems that there was a mix up. A notice had come for us to pay taxes. My husband had called twice to explain this but without success. In my absence a lien had been placed against our current home. After a third call, finally he managed to explain to a live person that there was nothing due and apparently by the end of the month the lien is supposed to be lifted. Imagine the same scenario in Iran . I think that the TB&G as some call them here would have set the government offices on fire!!
Frankly, as I said in my observations of the people in Tehran , or those I came in contact with, I am truly disgusted with the way people behave, but more so, with the way people think they know what is going on there. Most decent Iranians, and I say decent, do not want us and the Imperial US to interfere with Iran and their lives. So all the Chalabis can take a hike. The best we can do is to make sure that Iran is not attacked - sanctions hurt them, but stay out of their lives. Who the hell are we to decide what is best for them.
From: kazem alamdari [mailto:kala...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:41 AM
To: CASMII-D...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Ben Khosrownia; Sid Badakhsh; Esfandiar Bakhtiarnejad; Reza Vatandoust; Reza Shirazi; Reza Saidi; Faramrz Takesh; Laal Irangroup1; Kamaal Irangroup2; Soraya Sepahpour
Subject: State vandalism
Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich
NO - not common sense - peaceful protests. This is why America backs it, especially since it is PEACEFUL.
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Ben Khosrownia
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Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 10:05:48 AM
Subject: RE: State vandalism
I am not sure why you would call it "state vandalism"- it is pathetic that everything is blamed on the state. Again, as someone who just came back from Iran , I witnessed this by trend by the people I came in contact with and was dumbfounded. I beg your indulgence to give some examples.
A couple I know who have 3 sons and are what you would call "taghouti", or Westernized, had their middle son kidnapped. I did not learn of this until their son was safely returned to them. He is 15 - but it appears that there was an identity mistake and he was taken for someone else either for ransom or because the people who took him had a bone to pick with the parents of the intended victim. This is the first I had come across such thing but course we know of kidnappings. The people I was in touch with were saying: "death to this regime for us not to have any security" or "morde shoore in regime ro bebaran ke amniyat nadarim." I was dumbfounded. I said why do you blame it on the regime? And they said if the country was safe they would not kidnap my son and others in the room agreed. I told them do you have any idea how many people in America get kidnapped? And they told me why do you stay in America in the most sarcastic voice imaginable.
On another occasion the guy from the city turned off the water in the building where I was staying saying they had not paid the bill. When they showed they had in fact paid, they immediately turned on the bill. According to a more informed - and perhaps more reasonable person, the government has computerized the system and there are glitches. But the abuse I heard was just too much for my ears. it was all Ahmadinejad and the IRI. At this point I was too intimidated to say that mistakes happen. I do not get intimidated in this country, even though I think that Mossad may come after me, or the CIA, but in Iran , well, they are vicious.
Back home in the U.S. , my husband once assured that I was a little over my jetlag asked if he could talk to me. He said he did not want to talk to me because he knew in Iran I was facing some personal issues that were unpleasant. In 2006 we had sold a house and paid all the taxes etc. but it seems that there was a mix up. A notice had come for us to pay taxes. My husband had called twice to explain this but without success. In my absence a lien had been placed against our current home. After a third call, finally he managed to explain to a live person that there was nothing due and apparently by the end of the month the lien is supposed to be lifted. Imagine the same scenario in Iran . I think that the TB&G as some call them here would have set the government offices on fire!!
Frankly, as I said in my observations of the people in Tehran , or those I came in contact with, I am truly disgusted with the way people behave, but more so, with the way people think they know what is going on there. Most decent Iranians, and I say decent, do not want us and the Imperial US to interfere with Iran and their lives. So all the Chalabis can take a hike. The best we can do is to make sure that Iran is not attacked - sanctions hurt them, but stay out of their lives. Who the hell are we to decide what is best for them.
Sid Badakhsh
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/17/sadam-hussein-al-hussami_n_503193.html
With the reality of 2% success rate of the drone program, you can see how reliable this report is as well as the news medium such as Huffington post that published this kind of crap for the consumption of the American public. This reminds me of the TV program 24 where the government maintains a copy of the brain functions of every individual in America in their fictitious database ready to be retrieved at a touch of a computer button by Jack Bauer!
If one believes the fantasy of Jack Bauer's world in TV program 24 , then you have no choice but to believe the accuracy of America's drone program in eliminating Alqueda as well as the reliability of what Mr Miller writes about Iran.
Thanks,
Sid
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:11:52 -0400
Subject: Re: [CASMII-Discussion] RE: Common Sense In Iran
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kazem alamdari
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Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 10:42:33 PM
Subject: Re: State vandalism
جوابی را که به آقای علمداری داده بودید خواندم این جواب مرا یاد شعری از حافظ انداخت که می گوید :
ای بسا گر محک تجربه آید به میان تا سیه روی شود هرکه در او غش باشد
و یا یاد مولانا می افتم که بر سر افراد به ظاهر عالم و دانشمند فریاد میزند که :
علم کز تو ترا به نستاند جهل از آن علم به بود بسیار
کسانی مانند علمداری ها که به قول ضرب المثل خودمان انگور نشده مویز شده اند با عدم شناخت و آگاهی نسبت به فرهنگ مردم کشورشان شمشیر برداشته ومردم ایران را مقصر در آنچه که به سرشان آمده میداند که بخشی از این صحبت میتواند درست باشد اما یک بعدی بودن آن و ندیدن عوامل متعدد عقب ماندگی ملت ها بیشتر از آنکه نا آگاهانه باشد مغرضانه است بخصوص با موضع گیری این افراد در مواردمختلف میتوان به نیت واقعی آنها پی برد.
مقایسه به جایی که شما در مورد بحث مربوط به کروبی کردید تنها موردی از موارد متعدد است . این فرومایگان چشمهایشان را به روی کشتار میلیونی انسانها که به شکل سازمان یافته و سیستماتیک انجام میشود می بندند و اشک تمساح برای ندامی ریزند . آنها هیچگونه واکنشی به کشته شدن صدها ندا که همه روزه در منطقه انجام میشود نمیدهند . آنها کشته شدن زن حامله مسلمان در دادگاه آلمان با ضربات چاقو در مقابل چشم شوهر و فرزندش را ابدا در جایی مطرح نمی کنند. چرا که در جهان بینی علمداری ها " این انسانهای بی فرهنگ بر اثر نداشتن فرهنگ است که می میرند " و البته نه حملات امپریالیست . اینان با مسخره گرفتن واژه امپریالیست از یک بچه ده ساله عراقی هم در زمینه تفکر سیاسی عقب مانده تر هستند چرا که این بچه ها دیگر نیاز ندارند در کتاب لغات به دنبال کلمه امپریالیست بگردند با گوشت و پوستشان این پدیده را احساس کرده اند اگر چه آنها مدرک " دکترا" ندارند و کتاب قطوری هم در مورد " فرهنگ انسانها " ننوشته اند."
هنرمندان "فرومایه این تفکر غیرانسانی امثال شهره آغداشلوها میشوند که می باید برای اظهار نظر در مورد وضعیت زنان ایران مورد مصاحبه قرار گیرند و این زن حقیر که در رویای قدم زدن بر فرش قرمز سراز پا نمی شناخت تا برای هموطنانش " افتخار" بیافریند با بی شرمی تمام فیلم سنگسار را به روی صحنه میبرد که مسلما او نیز نسبت به کشتار ، تجاوز ، صدها هزار زن و دختر در مناطق جنگ زده که با نقشه قبلی و سیستماتیک انجام میشود هیچ واکنشی نشان نمیدهد و اشک تمساح می ریزد برای مواردی که در یک روستا بر اثرجهل و نا آگاهی زمانی در کشوری اتفاق می افتد و یا امثال مخملباف ها که زمانی مذهبی دو آتیشه میشوند بدون آنکه آگاه به دین خود داشته باشند و سیر تکاملی آن را ببینند و باز مانندهمان مثال که انگورنشده مویز شده اند به ابتذال روی می آورد و کعبه آمالشان میشود هالیود که ما میدانیم این صنعت بازوی فرهنگ فکری و مادی صهیونیستها است.
هرکه شد از همزبانی جدا بی نوا شد گرچه دارد صد نوا
بنابراین بر مبنای اصل علمی کشف حقیقت از میان واقعیت میتوان ثابت کرد دلایل فرهنگ والای مردم ایران به چه دلیل است و با بدست آوردن این سر نخ میتوان کشف کرد که چه اتفاقی در قرنها پیش افتاد که ایران به مرکز دانشمندان متعدد از قرن سوم تا هفتم تبدیل میشود . . روشن شدن این واقعیت علاوه بر اینکه به ما کمک میکند تا بتوانیم به دنیا نشان دهیم که برای حل معضلات بشری راه حل داریم واز طرف دیگرمیتوان ملت ها را متوجه این حقیقت کرد که آنها نیزبا بازنگری در فرهنگ اصیل خود میتوانند به گنجهای متعددی دست پیداکنند. و از طرف دیگر میتوان به امثال هانتیگتونها و شاگردانشان علمرداری ها ثابت کرد که مسبب اصلی از بین بردن فرهنگ راستین ملت ها چه کسانی بوده اند و به چه شیوه هایی اینکار را انجام داده اند تا بدینوسیله بتوان با روشن کردن حقایق دهان این یاوه گویان و ضد بشرها را بست و انان را به ذباله دان تاریخ فرستاد و در پی برپائی جامعه عدالتخواه که لیاقت انسان است قدم برداشت .با سپاس
م.ن
Ben Khosrownia
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Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 4:15:36 PM
Subject: Re: State vandalism
kazem alamdari
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"Criticism is the beginning of a change for the betterment..."So much trash in one email!!Ben
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Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 7:22:41 PM
Subject: Re: State vandalism
mahvash n
. اما حدس میزنم آقای علمداری جواب ایمل من را میدهند ( که کل آن را هم پاک کرده اند اگر دراین مورد اشتباه میکنم لطفا من را تصحیح بفرمائید.) آیا کسی میداند چرا ایشان رو در رو صحبت نمیکند ؟ آیا ایشان مشگلی دارند که طرف صحبشان و کسی که ایشان را به چالش می کشد خانم باشد ؟ ( از محتوی کلام اینگونه بر می آید )
مسلما رفتار اجتماعی انسانها نشانه شخصیت نهانی آنهاست و خط سیاسی افراد و موضع گیری آنها در جریانات تاریخی نیز نشان دهنده پایگاه طبقاتیشان است .و به قول معروف تا مرد سخن نگفته باشد عیب و هنرش نهفته باشد .
آقای علمداری امثال شماها و شیرین عبادی ها فقط یک مشگل دارید ... چرا ایران در را به سوی غرب باز نمیکند ؟ چرا تسلیم نمیشود ؟ مشگل شما این است که چرا یک بچه آهنگر دکتر شده و اینطور مقابل " انسانهای متمدن " و شیک و آلامد غربی ایستاده است ؟
خانم عبادی که مثلا ادعا کردند که کارشان فقط " صلح " و " حقوق بشر " است و به کار " سیاست " کار ندارند در مواقع حساس حملات روانی صهیونیستها و امپریالیست آمریکا به ایران و تهدید همه روزه به ایران ایشان کشور به کشور راه می افتند و تقاضای تحریم ایران را دارند . زمانی که کلینتون ده سال عراق را تحریم کرد پانصد هزار نفر ازبین رفتند و حتما خانم عبادی " صلح طلب " و دوست عالیقدرشان آقای علمداری هم خواهان چنین فاجعه ای برای مردم ایران هستند( البته این صحبت ها هیاهوی کیهان است و دروغ است به گفته آقای علمداری)
آقای علمداری یادتان رفته آمریکا به بهانه واهی " حمله تروریستی به برجها " و دروغ بزرگ که صدام سلاح اتمی دارد دو کشور را تصرف کرد و بیش از یک میلیون نفر را کشت ؟ ( گزارش صد دانشمند در مورد یازده سپتامبر را بخوانید که این کار را خود زنی دانسته اند ) آیا ایران حق ندارد در جائیکه محاصره است و می خواهند ایران را بگیرند کاری انجام دهد ؟ مردم می باید مثل تو و امثال شیرین عبادی باشند و خواهان تسلیم باشند ؟
مردم نمی باید از دست حرکات کروبی و موسوی و دارو دسته اش و افعی بزرگ که ایران را تا مرز خطر تصرف پیش برد عصبانی باشند ؟ آقای علمداری البته " مردم " از نظر شما انسانهای متمدن غرب هستند که پول تکس میدهند و همه روزه با پول آنها انسانهای بیگناه کشته میشوند و اعتراضی همی نمیکنند ..... البته امثال شماها در زمان مصدق هم همین کار را کردید.....گزارشی را که در مجله تایم عکس مصدق را انداخته بود و او را "دیکتاتور " قلمداد کرده بودند مطالعه کنید آیا شباهتی در آن نمی بینید ؟
در فرهنگ فکری سلطه گران دفاع از منافع ملی کشورهای محاصره و یا مورد تجاوز قرار گرفته یعنی " دیکتاتوری " حفاظت از مرزهای کشور " یعنی " نظامی شدن " کشور اما تصرف دو کشور برای نفت و گسترش امپراطوری یعنی " جنگ با تروریست " .
و " برقراری دمکراسی " آقای علمداری از قصرتان بیرون بیائید در جائیکه بر مبنای پروژه " نظم نوین جهانی" سردمداران جنایتکار به کشورگشائی مشغول هستند شما از نظم و ترتیب و قانون آنهم در کشوری که محاصره نظامی است و میلیونها دلارنیز صرف جنگ نرم و انقلاب مخملی میشود حرف میزنید ؟ فریبکاری تا چه حد ؟
البته خودتان هم اظهار کرده اید که " کامنت ها " را نمی خوانید و " ارزش جواب دادن " هم ندارد . درست است ارزشهای شما در جای دیگر محک میخورد . مسلما شما ارزشی برای توده مردم قائل نیستید و فرهنگ مورد قبول شما همین فرهنگی است که در حال حاضر به نسل کشی مشغول است فرهنگ مورد قبول شما قانون جنگلی است که حق با آن است که زورش بیشتر است یعنی صاحبان زر و زور و تزویر ...( ببخشید اگر باز صحبت ها کیهانی شد ) ایکاش به جای اینکه مدام برچسب بزنید و کیهان را زیر سئوال ببرید در مورد مواضع کیهان بحث کنید . جالب است که این شیوه کار سیاستهای متجاوز است یک لولو خرخره درست می کنند ( مانند بن لادن ) و یک گروه ( القاعده ) و بعد کشورها را مورد تجاوز قرار میدهند و هر کسی حرف میزند می چسبانند به آن گروه ها. حالا شما هم مثل ماکت کوچک این رویه هستید . بگوئید کیهان چه کرده و چه گفته ؟ موضوع را روشن کنید تا بحث را بتوان جلو برد. اگر چه که شما فقط با کسانی بحث می کنید که در "شان و منزلت شما باشند " .
واقعیت این است که دنیا در حال مبارزه و جنگ برای عدالت است و شما هم حق دارید که مبارزه خود را جلو ببرید همانطور که عدالتخواهان مقابل شما ایستاده اند اما لااقل شمشیر را از رو ببندید و مبارزه کنید اما وقتی دم از "حقوق بشر" و" انسانیت" و" صلح می زنید کار خود را مشگل می کنید . مورد آخر اینکه دست از شعاربی محتوی و پوچ " دمکراسی " بردارید و به تئوریسین های نئو کان توصیه کنید واژه دیگری را انتخاب کنند . مردم صدمه دیده دنیا قرنها است که معنای " دمکراسی " را در بمباران های شیمائی ناکازاکی و هیروشیما در اشغال نظامی کشورها و به خاک و خون کشیدنشان فهمیده اند. محرومین جهان میدانند که می باید به زور از حلقوم دزدان بزرگ و حامیانشان حق و حقوق خود را بیرون بکشند. بدون عدالت صحبت از حقوق بشر و دمکراسی فریبی بیش نیست و اگر شما هنوز قادر به فهم این مسئله نیستید اکثریت قریب به اتفاق مردم محروم دنیا و قربانیان سیستم ضد بشر حاکمیت سرمایه این امر را به خوبی فهمیده است .
م.ن
Massy Homayouni
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Massy Homayouni
reza...@gmail.com
Ben Khosrownia
From: kazem alamdari <kala...@yahoo.com>
To: kala...@yahoo.com; mahvash n <mahva...@gmail.com>; reza...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: State vandalism
Ben Khosrownia
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Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 10:45:42 PM
Subject: Re: State vandalism
reza...@gmail.com
خانم مهوشياداشت من ربطی به نوشته شما نداشتعلمداری
From: mahvash n <mahva...@gmail.com>
To: kazem alamdari <kala...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 10:45:42 PM
Subject: Re: State vandalism
kazem alamdari
To: kazem alamdari <kala...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 10:45:42 PM
Subject: Re: State vandalism
kazem alamdari
From: Massy Homayouni <ma...@phoenixinvests.com>
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Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 8:54:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CASMII-Discussion] Re: State vandalism
Bench
Dear Massy,
Let’s take Mr. Alamdari for what he says:
“I call this system a bad democracy, an extreme capitalism. I have always criticized this system and continue to do so, and try my best to change it.”
You, I and many readers know well how he has always yearned for an Iran to be a copycatter of the U.S. system. Just 4 months ago, he emailed me and John the following:
From: kazem alamdari
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:21 PM
To: Bench; John Wheat Gibson, Sr.
Subject: Re: Twists and Turns to Justify Repression.
Here in the US press is privately owned, therefore relatively free. In Islamic Republic, all TVs and Radios are state owned enterprises, therefore, government censors the real news and facts and fabricates their own.
In response John wrote:
“whoever controls the state controls the media. Both "state" and "media" are useful but not exact concepts… Even in the former USSR the ordinary people had a lot better chance of getting their letters to the editor published in the major newspapers, for example, than people in the US have.”
Sarastically, he was also a victim of this so called “bad democracy” to defame you, I and others for criticizing it!! He never hesitated to distribute manufactured video clips against IRI, let alone outright lies and distortions.
He loves anti IRI critics and wants me to stop distributing anything pro-IRI. To be sarcastic, he means well NOT wanting pro IRI materials be distributed in a “bad democracy”, but it is okay to call IRI critics in Iran, e.g. Ziba Kalam, “supporter of the IRI”
Nonetheless, let’s put all things behind, end this sad chapter of our history by the end of this year, and move forward.
Happy New Year.
Peace,
Mohamad Purqurian
On
Behalf Of kazem
alamdari
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: [LaaL Msg# 7842] Re: [CASMII-Discussion] Re: State vandalism
I call this system a bad democracy, an extreme capitalism. I have always criticized this system and continue to do so, and try my best to change it. I believe that the US policy in the ME is determined by Israel. Like the IRI, Israel doesn't want a normal relation between the US and Iran.
If any one likes to hear a critical view of a supporter of the IRI on how the demands of the 1979 revolution were diverted, listen to this debate on IRI TV.
Alamdari
From: Massy Homayouni
Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 8:54:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CASMII-Discussion] Re: State vandalism
I also forgot one critical element a state who lies to its citizens and wages illegal wars across the globe to feed its military industrial complex, violates its own laws and torutures and imprisons not only its own citizens but innocent people in other countries. Please add this to the list.
What is the best definition to describe such a system?
Thanks
Massy
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Massy Homayouni wrote:
What do you call it when a group of "high powered corporations" own the news papers and broadcast what the State wants you to hear, when our journalists are bought and paid to publish state policy, corporations buy our representatives to represent their interest and not the people, corporations and insurance companies dictate our healthcare system, a foreign government agency dictates our foreign policy, laws are established by the state as they wish to over ride the U.S. constitution and rights of the citizens of this country, only a few highly selected people can run for president, a convoluted electoral system determines who the president of a country is and not majority vote, the judicial system represents corporate interests and lobbyists and not the people, and so on and so on and so on....
What kind of a system would you call this?
Thanks
Massy
Ben Khosrownia
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Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 2:12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [CASMII-Discussion] Re: State vandalism