website

[Jeffrey Watts]

I'd like to get some feedback on the Ning site that I put together a couple of months ago.  It has some basic functionality, is manageable, and allows us to embed media and so forth.  The main things the site currently lacks is a link to the mailing list signup and the archives.

kulua-community.ning.com

Jeffrey.

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"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine

[Daniel Matthis]

Looks pretty interesting. Is the Ads frame there because of "Ning" or something you picked? I don't have a problem with it, just want to be clear as to it's purpose.

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- Daniel

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Daniel Matthis <daniel....@gmail.com> wrot

Looks pretty interesting. Is the Ads frame there because of "Ning" or something you picked? I don't have a problem with it, just want to be clear as to it's purpose.

I don't see any ads, but that said, I'd think the purpose of them is self-evident.  It's a free site.  The ads are funding it so you don't have to.  Here's a link for more information on how this business model can work:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_advertising

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Chris

[Daniel Matthis]

I understand how ads in general work. I just wanted to know if it was something that was part of "Ning" or something added. Glad to see your ad blocker is working though ;D

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- Daniel

[Jeffrey Watts]

Nah it's just Ning's way of making a living.  They provide the free service in exchange for the advertisement.

Jeffrey.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Daniel Matthis <daniel....@gmail.com> wrote:

Looks pretty interesting. Is the Ads frame there because of "Ning" or something you picked? I don't have a problem with it, just want to be clear as to it's purpose.

 

[Frank Wiles]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Jeffrey Watts<jeffrey...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like to get some feedback on the Ning site that I put together a couple
> of months ago.  It has some basic functionality, is manageable, and allows
> us to embed media and so forth.  The main things the site currently lacks is
> a link to the mailing list signup and the archives.
>
> kulua-community.ning.com

Looks good to me!

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Frank Wiles
Revolution Systems | http://www.revsys.com/
fr...@revsys.com | (800) 647-6298

[David Hageman]

Jeffrey Watts wrote:
> I'd like to get some feedback on the Ning site that I put together a
> couple of months ago. It has some basic functionality, is manageable,
> and allows us to embed media and so forth. The main things the site
> currently lacks is a link to the mailing list signup and the archives.

I think the site looks good.

Random musing - (this is not a criticism of anything you did Jeffrey, so
relax, you seem to be a bit edgy):

Anyone else getting tired of signing up to websites and posting the same
junk over and over again? Here is my standard profile picture. Here
is the standard description of myself.

We have a linkedin group. I am sure we could put together a facebook
group. Maybe it is just worthwhile to use one of those as a website for
KULUA instead of doing it all over again.

Like I said, random musing.

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[Jeffrey Watts]

I'm also willing to consider other sites similar to Ning, but I have some requirements:

* Must be hosted on a third party site - no dependencies on members
* Must be able to be administered by multiple people
* Must allow things like videos and events to be posted.
* Must be easy to set up and work with.

Jeffrey.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Frank Wiles <fr...@wiles.org> wrote:

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Jeffrey Watts<jeffrey...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like to get some feedback on the Ning site that I put together a couple
> of months ago.  It has some basic functionality, is manageable, and allows
> us to embed media and so forth.  The main things the site currently lacks is
> a link to the mailing list signup and the archives.
>
> kulua-community.ning.com

Looks good to me!

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[Scott Kahler]

Looks pretty good in lynx (thumbs up).

SK

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Jeffrey Watts <jeffrey...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Jim Ford]

Looks good to me as well.  Maybe we should get that kid back in here that was getting flamed about the website a couple of weeks back and ask him what he thinks.  :P

Jim

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Frank Wiles <fr...@wiles.org> wrote:

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, David Hageman <dhag...@dracken.com> wrote:

Random musing - (this is not a criticism of anything you did Jeffrey, so
relax, you seem to be a bit edgy):

Wow!  Smacked with the backhand!
 

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Chris

[Jeffrey Watts]

It's a valid concern, and a good suggestion.

It's up to you guys.  We can use a LinkedIn or Facebook group if you guys like.  I think the only things we need are:

* Be able to post event information.
* Be able to post media (like slides, videos, etc)
* Have a way to clearly point people towards the mailing list (and discourage conversations on that forum).

How feasible do you guys think it is to do that on a Facebook or LinkedIn group?

Jeffrey.

P.S.  I'm not really edgy, I'm just under a time crunch.  I looked back at the thread on AD and I think I misread some of your posts, so I'm sorry if I was a bit grumpy.  You wanted to discuss reasons, and I wanted solutions.  :)

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:15 PM, David Hageman <dhag...@dracken.com> wrote:

Jeffrey Watts wrote:
> I'd like to get some feedback on the Ning site that I put together a
> couple of months ago.  It has some basic functionality, is manageable,
> and allows us to embed media and so forth.  The main things the site
> currently lacks is a link to the mailing list signup and the archives.

I think the site looks good.

Random musing - (this is not a criticism of anything you did Jeffrey, so
relax, you seem to be a bit edgy):

Anyone else getting tired of signing up to websites and posting the same
 junk over and over again?  Here is my standard profile picture.  Here
is the standard description of myself.

We have a linkedin group.  I am sure we could put together a facebook
group.  Maybe it is just worthwhile to use one of those as a website for
KULUA instead of doing it all over again.

Like I said, random musing.

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[Dustin Decker]

I find LinkedIn is trying to look a bit more like Twitter these days, but is at least some form of professional.

Facecrack being the wild-WILD West of poor security (with the API essentially IGNORING all personal security settings for apps) I'd be less interested in utilizing it, and it will also stop at the Websense boundary for most professionals on a nine to five.

Give it a little longer, and Google Wave might be a better answer.

Kyrka

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"If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"
~ Alexander Solzhenitsyn

[Scott Kahler]

I think Ning is a good place for it. The other two sites really have another purpose to them and would make the Kulua group a secondary function. I myself would prefer to have it where it occupies it's own space.

[Jeffrey Watts]

That's a good point, Facebook is blocked by a lot of businesses (including mine).  I looked a bit at LinkedIn, their group setup seems very minimal.  Basically just a set of simple forums, which works for what they use it for.

What's the deal with Wave?  Google Sites is awful.

Jeffrey.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dustin Decker <dustin...@gmail.com> wrote:

I find LinkedIn is trying to look a bit more like Twitter these days, but is at least some form of professional.

Facecrack being the wild-WILD West of poor security (with the API essentially IGNORING all personal security settings for apps) I'd be less interested in utilizing it, and it will also stop at the Websense boundary for most professionals on a nine to five.

Give it a little longer, and Google Wave might be a better answer.

Kyrka

[Glenn Robuck]

Google Wave is interesting, but it's not too useful right now because there aren't enough people in it yet.  I have a beta invite, but they aren't allowing us to send out invites yet.

Still trying to figure out exactly what to do with it at this point.

Glenn

[Dustin Decker]

Yeah, I got in the Sandbox too... if you watch the preview video from their developer conference earlier this year, you'll see all the "promises" and such.  I like that it's open source, yadda yadda yadda... 

All that said, however... _today_ it's really just a signal-to-noise mess.

Google is doing anything they can to marginalize old business models - telephones is one of their favorites right now.

I get the impression if Wave becomes what they want it to be, a lot of social networking sites will slip off into the obscurity of MySpace... 

D.

[Dustin Decker]

Duh, I meant to include a link:

http://wave.google.com/

I _do_ wonder if there was a lit applause sign like a gameshow... or was it the cool-aid?

D.

[David Hageman]

Jeffrey Watts wrote:
> That's a good point, Facebook is blocked by a lot of businesses
> (including mine). I looked a bit at LinkedIn, their group setup seems
> very minimal. Basically just a set of simple forums, which works for
> what they use it for.
>

I didn't consider the blocking by businesses when I suggested it. That
is a fairly big deal.

[Rezty Felty]

"Facebook is blocked by a lot of businesses (including mine)."

Jeffrey!  A good SysAdmin like you, and you don't have an SSH tunnel set up to home so that your job can't tell you where you can and cannot surf?! ;)
Rezty Felty,
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[Jeffrey Watts]

Well to be honest I really don't need Facebook access during the day.  :)

J.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Rezty Felty <rfe...@kc-felty.net> wrote:

"Facebook is blocked by a lot of businesses (including mine)."

Jeffrey!  A good SysAdmin like you, and you don't have an SSH tunnel set up to home so that your job can't tell you where you can and cannot surf?! ;)

[Kyle Hutson]

> Well to be honest I really don't need Facebook access during the day.

I don't need it on my computer. That's why it's on my phone. :-)

[Kyrka]

Hehe... I flat out deactivated my account last week.
Thin, non-genuine, social-media relationships... blech.

[Steve Nordquist]

What, you don't trust Rupert Murdoch V to present you with formidable
resources for deciding what you think about New Zealand? (Which
account? ...is my other ponderance.)
Finally gave up on DeviantArt, eh?