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Still not too early to get the ball rolling on 3.5, even ensuring everyone is aware of the intended roadmap (as we did for 3.4, even if the timeline was missed by a lot). Do agree though that the main code focus right now should be dealing with the 3.4.0 bugs.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Leo Lammerink <gws...@gmail.com> wrote:
Nothing decided yet as far as I know. Trying to get Jooml3.4 working and fixed where applicable. Next version will be Joomla 3.4.1 coming soon
Leo 8)
On 3/6/2015 10:21 PM, dgt41 wrote:
A 3.5-dev repo is already up! Roberto is gonna be the release master for 3.5! But what shall we expect from 3.5?--Decoupling of more components/modules/plugins? Which of them? Are we gonna introduce an installer builder a’la bootstrap?Layouts will be there! How extensive will this be?A new accessible admin template?More code from the framework?What else?What is the timeframe for all these?
PS I don’t know if this is a direct inquiry to Roberto or more a PLT thing, thus the post here…
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3.4.1 I'm hoping to get out next week to deal with the immediate 3.4.0 bugs. I believe Roberto is working on a blog post detailing his vision for 3.5 :)Kind Regards,
George
On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:44:14 PM UTC, Michael Babker wrote:
Still not too early to get the ball rolling on 3.5, even ensuring everyone is aware of the intended roadmap (as we did for 3.4, even if the timeline was missed by a lot). Do agree though that the main code focus right now should be dealing with the 3.4.0 bugs.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Leo Lammerink <gws...@gmail.com> wrote:
Nothing decided yet as far as I know. Trying to get Jooml3.4 working and fixed where applicable. Next version will be Joomla 3.4.1 coming soon
Leo 8)
On 3/6/2015 10:21 PM, dgt41 wrote:
A 3.5-dev repo is already up! Roberto is gonna be the release master for 3.5! But what shall we expect from 3.5?--Decoupling of more components/modules/plugins? Which of them? Are we gonna introduce an installer builder a’la bootstrap?Layouts will be there! How extensive will this be?A new accessible admin template?More code from the framework?What else?What is the timeframe for all these?
PS I don’t know if this is a direct inquiry to Roberto or more a PLT thing, thus the post here…
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But hey I'm writing that blog post!! :D
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I don't think v.3.5 is going to be something fast. Maybe using "epic" was wrong but I really hope to bring some parts that were required for a long time like the hability to fully customize the markup that Joomla outputs. I also think we have to also listen to the users and worry about what they want. A good example is the new media manager. Some of our efforts have to go in that direction if that's what people demands. But one thing I don't want to do is to release something that I'm not confident or that will damage next releases health. I'll try to check it and see if we can pulish it so it can be added. At this point I think is possible but I need time to evaluate it, discuss it and then create a plan for it. All that done in a transparent way so users can: See what is being considered. Send thoughts about it. Understand why something is set as "not ready" and then delayed to the next release. But hey I'm writing that blog post!! :D
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> Joomla 3.5 announcement I promised http://developer.joomla.org/news/614-joomla-3-5-update.htmlI think it's good that less things are being focused on at any one time. We can't focus on too many things and this is a good, if only subtle change in direction.However, I do question whether code reform can be done (speaking to the router) when there is no clear plan as to what that code reform might entail. Personally, I'd seriously considering freezing the API as of 3.4 and making the most of it, and then constructing a plan for how we want the code to eventually be. Otherwise we are just continuing on the same merry-go-round we've been on for the last 10 years (and more recently there have been a number of adhoc attempts at code reform that have all failed to really deliver - and I was a part of one of them). If that means putting the brakes on for a while, and just making sure the CMS gets less buggy, that's not a bad thing.
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Personally, I'd seriously considering freezing the API as of 3.4 and making the most of it
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Based on the discussions here and reviewing the existing "roadmap" there is some definite work needed on clarifying the "official" roadmap since it was last updated almost a year ago.
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