"Klapper, David G." <david_...@med.unc.edu>: Dec 01 03:51PM Hi Ariel, This, from your former community where we all wish you well! Our Chevra Kadisha (Conservative 'upstairs' and 'Orthodox' downstairs synagogue) long ago opted to neither perform t'hara when faced with cremation nor bury 'cremains' in the Hebrew Cemetery. Of the three rabbis associated with our synagogue, only one has told me he would perform an actual funeral service (at the funeral home, not in the synagogue), although I believe that all would officiate at a future 'memorial' service, should the family desire such. I liked the bnai mitzvot/McDonalds analogy and would certainly agree that times are changing and we need to change with them - for instance, we have just opened a new section of the cemetery and have marked out an area where we, for the first time in the very long history of our synagogue and cemetery, will allow the burial of interfaith couples. But for the time being, we have not changed our stance regarding cremation and burial of 'cremains'. For what it's worth, the funeral home (not Jewish) where we prepare bodies (t'hara, shrouds, kosher coffin) is perfectly capable of washing, reading prayers (in English), dressing in shrouds, and placing the body in a kosher coffin - they do that for some of the other synagogues around here and they do it for unaffiliated Jews who have passed but the local synagogues are not notified. So, is a t'hara performed by non-Jews still a t'hara? David Klapper |
"Daniel Leger" <del...@verizon.net>: Dec 01 07:59PM -0500 I think David Klapper's post raises the conversation to another level. He asks if a tahara is a tahara if it is performed by non-Jews. The values which drive our pluralistic, community chevra to perform this mitzvah for anyone who asks (see my earlier post) are strongly connected to our desire to have members of our Jewish community care for each other in this most intimate of expressions of hesed. We do our best to educate through outreach programs and individual conversations, but that does not mean much when a Jew is faced with a death in the family if s/he has not had the opportunity to sensitively explore how being Jewish in 21st century America converges with all the possibilities offered by the cultural landscape, including much misinformation about ecology related to cremation. I recall that we recently performed a tahara for a met who was very obviously going to be dressed in a suit and placed in a fancy bronze casket for burial. We performed the tahara and did not interrogate anyone, although we were disappointed that we could not be the last ones to gently tuck him in. The only time I actively intervened in such a situation was when I was asked to conduct a funeral for a met. I was a chaplain in a hospice at the time and the man had been a patient of mine. He had pre-paid years earlier for his funeral arrangements which had not included tahara but had included a fancy metal casket. In preparing for his burial I met with the family and in talking with them they came to the conclusion that tahara and a simple wooden aron were the most appropriate way to show honor and to proceed. They appreciated the values underlying the actions. The funeral home was more difficult to convince since the arrangements were prepaid and expressed by the deceased himself, albeit years earlier. Ironically, due to the differences in costs over time, the revised plan (tahara and plain wood aron) required additional payment (this had nothing to do with the tahara - we charge no fee.) The family was comforted by having understood the traditional approach to burial in a manner that the deceased had not had the opportunity to learn during his lifetime. Again I wish to say that our over-riding attitude is respect and honor of the dead before us, and, as much as we possibly and respectfully can, responding to the request without judgment. We need to reach out and sensitively educate as early as we can, provide supportive comfort and not alienate and drive people away from our precious community by making demands at times of exquisite vulnerability. Dan Leger Pittsburgh From: jewish-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:jewish-...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Klapper, David G. Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 10:51 AM To: jewish-...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [jewish-funerals] Tahara and cremation Hi Ariel, This, from your former community where we all wish you well! Our Chevra Kadisha (Conservative 'upstairs' and 'Orthodox' downstairs synagogue) long ago opted to neither perform t'hara when faced with cremation nor bury 'cremains' in the Hebrew Cemetery. Of the three rabbis associated with our synagogue, only one has told me he would perform an actual funeral service (at the funeral home, not in the synagogue), although I believe that all would officiate at a future 'memorial' service, should the family desire such. I liked the bnai mitzvot/McDonalds analogy and would certainly agree that times are changing and we need to change with them - for instance, we have just opened a new section of the cemetery and have marked out an area where we, for the first time in the very long history of our synagogue and cemetery, will allow the burial of interfaith couples. But for the time being, we have not changed our stance regarding cremation and burial of 'cremains'. For what it's worth, the funeral home (not Jewish) where we prepare bodies (t'hara, shrouds, kosher coffin) is perfectly capable of washing, reading prayers (in English), dressing in shrouds, and placing the body in a kosher coffin - they do that for some of the other synagogues around here and they do it for unaffiliated Jews who have passed but the local synagogues are not notified. So, is a t'hara performed by non-Jews still a t'hara? David Klapper -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jewish-funerals" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to jewish-funera...@googlegroups.com <mailto:jewish-funera...@googlegroups.com> . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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Hi, all,
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