Should we change our mailing list

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Antoine Sabot-Durand

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Jun 4, 2012, 10:57:06 AM6/4/12
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Hi guys,

Now we're working on Java-Social mailing list / Google group. Don't you think it would be better to create and agorava-dev ml and keep this one when Java Social will be a reality ?


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Werner Keil

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Jun 4, 2012, 11:19:58 AM6/4/12
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I guess for many topics including JIRA, etc. an "agorava-dev" list might seem better. We should keep this as an "Umbrella", not only for future JSRs related to Social or JSON-B.

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Werner

rajma...@gmail.com

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Jun 4, 2012, 11:07:19 AM6/4/12
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+1  :)

my view is lets have agorava-dev and when we launch we can have a agorava-user or agorava
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Antoine Sabot-Durand

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Jun 5, 2012, 11:03:07 AM6/5/12
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Ok, do we stick to google group or do we choose another service for our ML ? Suggestions ?

Antoine SABOT-DURAND

rajma...@gmail.com

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Jun 5, 2012, 11:06:51 AM6/5/12
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Google +1 !!! most of the people use Google. 

Pete Muir

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Jun 5, 2012, 11:28:30 AM6/5/12
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My only caution with google groups, is that, afaik, exporting the ML is not possible. So, if in the future you plan to move somewhere else, you can't pull over your old data easily.

This is why, for jdf, we choose to use a mailman mailing list (which stores data in a industry standard format, mbox), and front it with nabble. http://www.jboss.org/jdf/forums/jdf-users/

This was very easy to do.

Antoine Sabot-Durand

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Jun 5, 2012, 11:48:34 AM6/5/12
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Thanks Pete. I think it's a good point.
Raj, everyone uses Google but there is no value added to have our ML hosted on Google group. On the contrary, some of us experienced delay in receiving email with java social.

Now perhaps that some of us don't use the group as mailing list but as a forum ? 

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Antoine 

Werner Keil

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Jun 6, 2012, 9:09:48 AM6/6/12
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@Pete could we have similar forums for Agorava at jboss.org or use Nabble directly in the agorava.org site?
There are also mailing lists at java.net, but I guess creating a project there just for that may be a bit redundant.

We would rather want people to know where to look, JSR-310 is a nightmare when it comes to that. 
It moved from java.net to SourceForge and then to GitHub. And each site even still has repositories, though some may be read-only or just mirrors now. Keeping java-social at java.net is fine. We could add any mailing list we want under that project, but I guess the Google Group has also established itself, and I would keep it as a general purpose forum.

Like JDF will cover more than just Agorava;-)

Werner

Antoine Sabot-Durand

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Jun 6, 2012, 8:42:12 PM6/6/12
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I think I found the best solution : keep using google groups for agorava-dev and having nabble archiving this group (nabble support Google Group). So Googlians are happy and we can have backup and avoid google locked-in.

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Antoine SABOT-DURAND


Le 5 juin 2012 à 17:28, Pete Muir a écrit :

Werner Keil

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Jun 7, 2012, 10:23:40 AM6/7/12
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OK, thanks, sounds good.
Will you create the the new agorava-dev group and invite or enter those actively involved here?

More than happy to help as admin there, too. If any of the admins of this group (at least we both should be) can set up a similar archive via Nabble for Java-Social, that sounds like a very good idea, too.

Thanks and Regards,
Werner
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