Re: ISKCON's "Astrologers" Are Simply Using Srila Prabhupada as Their Sugar Daddy

[Pratyatosa]

I'm simply pointing out a practical example. It's an easy to prove case of Western astrology working where "Vedic astrology" fails.

I have 3 children and 11 grand-children, so I have a little bit of experience along these lines. My wife and I controlled the sex of our last 2 children using this method.

Later on, when my daughter was pregnant, she told me that it will probably be a girl, because the moon was in a female sign, and sure enough, it was a girl!

I have also used this method to predict the sex of a few of my friend's children before they were born, and I was always right!

But it only works with Western tropical astrology. Why is that?

Ys, Ptd

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Miles Davis <dkris...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hmm. why are you bringing up the subject of procreation? PPd --- On Wed, 6/6/12, Pratyatosa <praty...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Pratyatosa <praty...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: ISKCON's "Astrologers" Are Simply Using Srila Prabhupada as Their Sugar Daddy To: "Miles" <dkris...@yahoo.com> Cc: "Urmila devi dasi/Dr. Edith Best" <urmilad...@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 7:36 AM Dear Patita Pavana Prabhu, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! If a child is conceived when the moon is in a male sign (Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius, and Aquarius) then that child will  be a boy. If the child is conceived when the moon is in a female sign (Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, and Pisces), then the child will be a girl. My experience is that this always holds true, and it serves as a very powerful tool for controlling the sex of our future children. But this only works using Western astrology, not the Hindu astrology being practiced by the ISKCON astrologers. How do you explain this? Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa

[Pratyatosa]

manvantar says:
12. June 2012 at 3:41 am
Vedic astrology is not just based on stars. It mostly mainly uses planets which are the material manifestations of the demigods in charge of controling various karmas. (<http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/?p=28223&cpage=1#comment-5804>)

Prabhupada: India’s material advancement is artificial. They are not fit for it.

Western astrological calculations are an exact science using the exact same calculations that astronomers use to calculate the positions of the sun, moon and planets. The ISKCON astrologers also use these exact same calculations, but they add an additional "fudge factor," the "ayanamsa," which seems to me like a childish attempt at one-upsmanship. The purpose of the ayanamsa is to force the 12 signs of the zodiac to line up with the traditional stellar star patterns which modern astronomers call "constellations."

According to <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayanamsa> Indian astrologers do not even agree on the value of the ayanamsa! ("...there are various values in use in India") Doesn’t this prove that the ayanamsa fudge factor is not scientific?

All that I am saying is that whereas the Western astrologers completely ignore the stars, the ISKCON astrologers take the positions of the stars into account, which is a completely unscientific concoction that doesn't seem to work very well.

I'm sure that the traditional Indian system of astrology has it's advantages, but why not try it without using the silly ayanamsa fudge factor? Then it should work even better, and would certainly be more scientific!

Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa

[milton...@gmail.com]

western astrologers are criminals because they judge wrong using silly method to compute coordinates without the use of ayanamsa. Vedic astrology is thousands of years old than western astrology , so who is wrong? Needless to say.

[milton...@gmail.com]

Also its is nonsense saying that naksatras have no effect by being so far from us , because the constellations that you use in western are at the same distance that naksatras are from us , since the nakshatras ARE part of the same constellations you use in your nonsense western astrology. For example beta scorpionis that is part of the constellation of scorpio.

Study a little more before saying nonsense.

On Wednesday, June 6, 2012 3:16:12 AM UTC-3, Pratyatosa wrote:

Dear Prabhus, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Concerning the recent flurry of articles by the ISKCON so-called Astrologers:

1. When Srila Prabhupada was personally running ISKCON, there was no such thing as an "ISKCON astrologer." No one dared to put themselves forward as an "astrologer" within ISKCON, because they knew that Srila Prabhupada would have put a stop to it.

2. After Srila Prabhupada's disappearance, however, certain self-motivated rascals decided to try to make Srila Prabhupada their sugar daddy in order to have an easy life of sense gratification, just like the Bhaktivedanta Archives rascals did.

3. They accomplished their nefarious deeds by flattering ISKCON's neophyte GBC/"guru"/sannyasis. Not all GBC/"guru"/sannyasis were fooled, however. One of them, in the early 80s, told me that he liked Western astrology better than the ISKCON "astrologers" brand of astrology!

4. Astrologers, according to the Vedic system, are supposed to be brahmanas. This means that they must not charge for their services. Since the ISKCON "astrologers" charge for their services, they are not brahmanas, and therefore, are not real astrologers.

5. My own knowledge of astronomy indicates that the version of astrology being practiced by the ISKCON "astrologers" makes no sense! How can stars that are light years away have any affect on us? Western astrology completely ignores the stars and bases everything on the Sun, moon and planets, which actually makes sense, because they are relatively nearby objects. Even the force of gravity of these objects affects planet earth, as is amply demonstrated by the tides.

6. My own experience with astrology also indicates that Western tropical astrology is superior. For example, if a child is conceived when the moon is in a male sign (Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius, and Aquarius) then that child will  be a boy. If the child is conceived when the moon is in a female sign (Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, and Pisces), then the child will be a girl. My experience is that this always holds true, and it serves as a very powerful tool for controlling the sex of our future children. But this only works using Western astrology, not the Hindu astrology being practiced by the ISKCON astrologers.

7. In the <http://harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/04-12/editorials8490.htm> article, Gaurakishor Prabhu says, "Although there is lots of assurance that ISKCON's astrologers are doing a good job, especially marriage counseling, many wonder why divorce rate statistics seems to be telling the opposite. ISKCON astrologers are using Jyotish (Indian) astrology as the starting basis for their calculations. Now, here we encounter an area of Jyotish which is very controversial and very important: Ayanamsa." His article confirms what I've been suspecting for years: The "ayanamsa" is a nonsense concoction!

8. ISKCON astrologers have proven over the years that they are unable to predict the future. Anyone with even a modicum of common sense can do a much better job of predicting the future than ISKCON's so-called astrologers!

9. No matter how many references they may give, the ISKCON "astrologers" who have responded to Gaurakishor Prabhu's article have not addressed the points made in point numbers 6 through 8 above. They have no explanation for the fact that Western astrology seems to work better than "Vedic astrology." Therefore, what is the use of all of their references and boring mumbo jumbo gobbledegook that no one bothers to read? No matter how much unintelligible gibberish they come up with, the fact remains: Vedic astrology doesn't work as well as Western astrology. "The proof of the pudding is in the tasting."

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[Pratyatosa]

According to <http://harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/04-12/editorials8490.htm>, the "ayanamsa" is simply a modern day concoction, and has nothing to do with the ancient science of Vedic astrology. It is obviously a feeble attempt at one-upmanship on the part of certain silly so-called brahmanas in India.

If all of the stars suddenly disappeared, it wouldn't affect Western astrology in the least. The signs of the zodiac are simply a way of naming the twelve 30 degree divisions of the ecliptic starting with the vernal equinox, which is one of the 2 intersections of the plain of the earth's orbit around the sun and the projection into space of the earth's equator. It has nothing to do with the stars.

Ys, Ptd

[Spirit Soul]

My own experience with astrology also indicates that Western tropical astrology is superior. For example, if a child is conceived when the moon is in a male sign (Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius, and Aquarius) then that child will  be a boy. If the child is conceived when the moon is in a female sign (Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, and Pisces), then the child will be a girl. My experience is that this always holds true, and it serves as a very powerful tool for controlling the sex of our future children. But this only works using Western astrology, not the Hindu astrology being practiced by the ISKCON astrologers.

My father married my mother on April 07. 1962 (Moon Sign for 07 April 1962 Taurus), I (baby boy) was born on January 07 1963, ie 9 months later. There something wrong in your theory.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:26 PM, <milton...@gmail.com> wrote:

Also its is nonsense saying that naksatras have no effect by being so far from us , because the constellations that you use in western are at the same distance that naksatras are from us , since the nakshatras ARE part of the same constellations you use in your nonsense western astrology. For example beta scorpionis that is part of the constellation of scorpio.

Study a little more before saying nonsense.

On Wednesday, June 6, 2012 3:16:12 AM UTC-3, Pratyatosa wrote:

Dear Prabhus, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Concerning the recent flurry of articles by the ISKCON so-called Astrologers:

1. When Srila Prabhupada was personally running ISKCON, there was no such thing as an "ISKCON astrologer." No one dared to put themselves forward as an "astrologer" within ISKCON, because they knew that Srila Prabhupada would have put a stop to it.

2. After Srila Prabhupada's disappearance, however, certain self-motivated rascals decided to try to make Srila Prabhupada their sugar daddy in order to have an easy life of sense gratification, just like the Bhaktivedanta Archives rascals did.

3. They accomplished their nefarious deeds by flattering ISKCON's neophite GBC/"guru"/sannyasis. Not all GBC/"guru"/sannyasis were fooled, however. One of them, in the early 80s, told me that he liked Western astrology better than the ISKCON "astrologers" brand of astrology!

4. Astrologers, according to the Vedic system, are supposed to be brahmanas. This means that they must not charge for their services. Since the ISKCON "astrologers" charge for their services, they are not brahmanas, and therefore, are not real astrologers.

5. My own knowledge of astronomy indicates that the version of astrology being practiced by the ISKCON "astrologers" makes no sense! How can stars that are light years away have any affect on us? Western astrology completely ignores the stars and bases everything on the Sun, moon and planets, which actually makes sense, because they are relatively nearby objects. Even the force of gravity of these objects affects planet earth, as is amply demonstrated by the tides.

6. My own experience with astrology also indicates that Western tropical astrology is superior. For example, if a child is conceived when the moon is in a male sign (Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius, and Aquarius) then that child will  be a boy. If the child is conceived when the moon is in a female sign (Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, and Pisces), then the child will be a girl. My experience is that this always holds true, and it serves as a very powerful tool for controlling the sex of our future children. But this only works using Western astrology, not the Hindu astrology being practiced by the ISKCON astrologers.

7. In the <http://harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/04-12/editorials8490.htm> article, Gaurakishor Prabhu says, "Although there is lots of assurance that ISKCON's astrologers are doing a good job, especially marriage counseling, many wonder why divorce rate statistics seems to be telling the opposite. ISKCON astrologers are using Jyotish (Indian) astrology as the starting basis for their calculations. Now, here we encounter an area of Jyotish which is very controversial and very important: Ayanamsa." His article confirms what I've been suspecting for years: The "ayanamsa" is a nonsense concoction!

8. ISKCON astrologers have proven over the years that they are unable to predict the future. Anyone with even a modicum of common sense can do a much better job of predicting the future than ISKCON's so-called astrologers!

9. No matter how many references they may give, the ISKCON "astrologers" who have responded to Gaurakishor Prabhu's article have not addressed the points made in point numbers 6 through 8 above. They have no explanation for the fact that Western astrology seems to work better than "Vedic astrology." Therefore, what is the use of all of their references and boring mumbo jumbo gobbledegook that no one bothers to read? No matter how much unintelligible gibberish they come up with, the fact remains: Vedic astrology doesn't work as well as Western astrology. "The proof of the pudding is in the tasting."

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[Pratyatosa]

How do you know that the moon was in Taurus at the exact moment of conception. The moon sign changes every 2 1/3 days. Are you mixing up the moon sign with the sun sign?

Ys, Ptd

On Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:58:03 PM UTC-4, Spirit Soul 108 wrote:

[Spirit Soul]

Well... moon was in Taurus till 10:52 PM that evening, i don't know the exact moment of conception, but i presume that that was before 10 pm.  No, i am not mixing.

[Pratyatosa]

According to <http://health.howstuffworks.com/pregnancy-and-parenting/pregnancy/conception/how-long-after-sex-does-conception-occur2.htm>, "Conception can occur as many as five days after sex or possibly longer." This is because, for one thing, the egg may not even be there yet.

Therefore, in order to control the sex of your future child:

1. Sex must be performed only once in a month.

2. At the time of the sex, the egg must already be there waiting. (There are very accurate methods for determining this at home.)

3. Using Western astrology, sex must occur near the beginning of the 2 1/3 day period that the moon is in the desired sign. (Male sign for a boy; female sign for a girl.)

Also, please keep in mind that no matter what method for calculating the "due date" is used, a normal birth could be a few days sooner or later.

Ys, Ptd

[rammohan das]

Dear Pratyatosa Prabhu,

thanks for taking up overdue ISKCON astrology issue!

My present understanding is that India's astrologer lodge was taken over by India's powerful astronomer lodge what is closely related with India's mathematicians. They captured and bought the astrologers with their "calculations" about how "Earth axis is always changing".

So these astronomers believe the earth's axis is always changing its position, "the ayanamsa changes slightly every year". They say in January 1, 1900 the ayanamsa was 22 degrees 27 minutes 59 seconds and today the ayanamsa is 23º 52' degrees.

Besides to increase confusion, there are various ayanamsas in use today. There are some disagreements on the actual measurement of the ayanamsa or longitudinal difference between the two zodiacs. The most popular and widely accepted ayanamsa in India was introduced by N.C. Lahiri. He calculates the precessional rate to be around 48 seconds per year.

Who is this N.C. Lahiri? A mayavadi, a muselman? To be precise, the so-called "Lahiri Ayanamsha" is a misnomer because N. C. Lahiri borrowed this Chitra-pakshiya Ayanamsha from its inventors Ketkar Brothers who propounded this idea three decades before him, and Lahiri never claimed any credit. But he popularized it due to his influence on Pt Jawaharlal Nehru who allowed Lahiri's ideas to dominate in reforming national calendar of India. According to this theory, the sidereal position of Spica (alpha-Virginis, assumed to be the ancient Chitra) should be exactly 180 degrees as stated in Suryasiddhanta, while both sidereal and tropical zodiacs should coincide at the time of zero ayanamsha. Although Suryasiddhanta and other ancient texts state that ayanamsha was zero in 499 AD (Mesha Samkranti), N C Lahiri insisted on Spica's identification as Chitra and concluded that Spica was the nearest bright star adjacent to 180 degrees, hence resting on Spica he concluded that tropical position of Spica being zero in 285 AD must be the zero point of Ayanamsha too.

I'm not sure if this is realy stated in Suryasiddhanta?

So actually here I'm stuck, as soon you present this to ISKCON's astrologers they come up with a counterstatement.
There has to be extent research in order to capture these people. Something like Sri Baladeva Vidyabhusana's commentary on Vedanta Sutra, Govinda-Bhasya, in order to defeat India's powerful astronomer lodge.

ys
rmd

[Pratyatosa]

Letter to: Devamaya -- Bombay 9 January, 1975:

Regarding astrology, you should not listen to any of these so-called astrologers—strictly avoid. Don't even see them. What is the use of seeing them? Astrology is meant for the materialist, but a spiritualist does not care for the future. Everything is dependent upon Krishna. So where is the necessity of astrology? The devotees' principle is, let there happen anything as Krishna desires. Let me remain sincere devotee, that's all. Pure devotee is never interested in this astrology.

(<http://prabhupadabooks.com/search.php?CB=&inputString=%22Regarding+astrology%2C+you+should+not+listen%22>)

[Ajit Krishna Dasa]

However, Prabhupada used astrologers himself. Especially in 1977 when his health deteriorated. He had two astrologers check his chart and they both recommended that he wear a blue sapphire. Prabhupada bought such a blue sapphire and had it made according to strict rules and regulations. 

My feeling is that Prabhupada argued against things as astanga-yoga, strict diets (like raw food), astrology etc. etc. mainly because he knew that kali-yuga people would be diverted from pure KC, and not so much because they were bad in themselves.  

[Melanie L Nagel]

Where it this confirmed that SP purchased a blue sapphire? (I can imagine one of his disciples doing this)? He famously remarked, "Let's call the astrologer and have dome fun!"

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[Ajit Krishna Dasa]

You can search the vedabase for Blue Sapphire and get the story. Prabhupada instructed them to consult two astrologers, and he gave very specific instructions as to how the whole process should be conducted. 

Hare Krishna, 

Ajit Krishna Dasa

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[Pratyatosa]

Dear Prabhus, Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Concerning the recent flurry of articles by the ISKCON so-called Astrologers:

1. When Srila Prabhupada was personally running ISKCON, there was no such thing as an "ISKCON astrologer." No one dared to put themselves forward as an "astrologer" within ISKCON, because they knew that Srila Prabhupada would have put a stop to it.

2. After Srila Prabhupada's disappearance, however, certain self-motivated rascals decided to try to make Srila Prabhupada their sugar daddy in order to have an easy life of sense gratification, just like the Bhaktivedanta Archives rascals did.

3. They accomplished their nefarious deeds by flattering ISKCON's neophite GBC/"guru"/sannyasis. Not all GBC/"guru"/sannyasis were fooled, however. One of them, in the early 80s, told me that he liked Western astrology better than the ISKCON "astrologers" brand of astrology!

4. Astrologers, according to the Vedic system, are supposed to be brahmanas. This means that they must not charge for their services. Since the ISKCON "astrologers" charge for their services, they are not brahmanas, and therefore, are not real astrologers.

5. My own knowledge of astronomy indicates that the version of astrology being practiced by the ISKCON "astrologers" makes no sense! How can stars that are light years away have any effect on us? Western astrology completely ignores the stars and bases everything on the Sun, moon and planets, which actually makes sense, because they are relatively nearby objects. Even the force of gravity of these objects affects planet earth, as is amply demonstrated by the tides.

6. My own experience with astrology also indicates that Western tropical astrology is superior. For example, if a child is conceived when the moon is in a male sign (Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius, or Aquarius), then that child will  be a boy. If the child is conceived when the moon is in a female sign (Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, or Pisces), then the child will be a girl. My experience is that this always holds true, and it serves as a very powerful tool for controlling the sex of our future children. But this only works using Western astrology, not the Hindu astrology being practiced by the ISKCON astrologers.

7. In the <http://harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/04-12/editorials8490.htm> article, Gaurakishor Prabhu says, "Although there is lots of assurance that ISKCON's astrologers are doing a good job, especially marriage counseling, many wonder why divorce rate statistics seems to be telling the opposite. ISKCON astrologers are using Jyotish (Indian) astrology as the starting basis for their calculations. Now, here we encounter an area of Jyotish which is very controversial and very important: Ayanamsa." His article confirms what I've been suspecting for years: The "ayanamsa" is a nonsense concoction!

8. In the <https://vicdicara.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/astounding-evidence-that-bhaktisiddhanta-sarasvati-used-the-tropical-zodiac/> article, Vic DiCara proves that "Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati used the tropical zodiac!" (No "ayanamsa" fudge factor nonsense!)

9. ISKCON astrologers have proven over the years that they are unable to predict the future. Anyone with even a modicum of common sense can do a much better job of predicting the future than ISKCON's so-called astrologers!

10. No matter how many references they may give, the ISKCON "astrologers" who have responded to Gaurakishor Prabhu's article have not addressed the points made in point numbers 6 through 9 above. They have no explanation for the fact that Western astrology seems to work better than "Vedic astrology." Therefore, what is the use of all of their references and boring mumbo jumbo gobbledegook that no one bothers to read? No matter how much unintelligible gibberish they come up with, the fact remains: Vedic astrology doesn't work as well as Western astrology. "The proof of the pudding is in the tasting."

[Pratyatosa]

I searched the VedaBase for "Blue Sapphire" and couldn't find one instance of Srila Prabhupada ever mentioning such a thing. It seems to be something that some of his disciples were hung up on.

On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 at 3:20:14 PM UTC-4, Ajit Krishna Dasa wrote:

You can search the vedabase for Blue Sapphire and get the story. Prabhupada instructed them to consult two astrologers, and he gave very specific instructions as to how the whole process should be conducted. 

Hare Krishna, 

Ajit Krishna Dasa

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:57 PM, 'Melanie L Nagel' via Prabhupadanuga wrote:

Where it this confirmed that SP purchased a blue sapphire? (I can imagine one of his disciples doing this)?  He famously remarked, "Let's call the astrologer and have some fun!"

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[Jasomatinandan das Cape Town]

Many thanks for your interesting discussion on astrology, a subject of interest to many devotees and much in need of clarification. I use the western tropical system since it seems to accurately describe character in my experience. There is a lot of room for speculation though, in astrology as a subject, so the discussion may go round in circles, excuse the pun.

YS Jasomatinandan das (Cape Town) 

 

[Pratyatosa]

You are very welcome, Jasomatinandan Prabhu.

IMHO, Krishna tricked these ignorant "Vedic astrology" rascals into using an unscientific, inferior system of astrology. If only they would drop this modern-day concoction of the "Ayanamsa," they might actually have something, but they are too proud to admit that they made a mistake.

Your servant, Pratyatosa Dasa

[Radha Ramana]

I'm a neophyte astrologer but I would like to relate my experience in this matter. When I showed my wife her software drawn chart she said it was wrong, her family astrologer had given her a completely different chart. Her family astrologer is from a village on the outskirts of Kolkata and does everything manually. I was curious to see what settings would produce her family astrologer's chart and lo and behold putting the ayanamsa to Tropical produced the chart. This proves that there are astrologers in India that use the a Tropical ayanamsa. Furthermore she went through a very difficult period in her life where the fathers business was stolen by communist politicians/thugs and they lost all their opulence, the father tried to start another business which failed and indirectly led to him leaving his body, putting the family in a very difficult position. This all happened in the Rahu dasa of her Tropical chart which makes sense but in her Siderial chart she is in her Moon dasa. 

My Gurumaharaja also doesn't take astrology seriously because he's seen many marriages predicted to succeed fail and many marriages predicted to fail succeed. How can we ever establish varnashrama when astrology is so inaccurate and has such a bad reputation. If you can't accurately predict varna and marriage then there will never be varnashrama. Astrological predictions can be empirically verified so I don't see why we don't adopt a more objective scientific approach to discovering why the predictions are inaccurate. 

[rainer hahn]

Radha Ramana Prabhu is right. Point is that present ISKCON followers are mad after astrology. Finding out whether a future couple can communicate with each other (compatible Mercury) is easy to find out without astrology. Finding out whether they consider each other physically attractive (compatible Mars) is also evident without using astrology. When it comes to compatible Moons it is different. Emotions can be held off. Even up to 2-3 years. But then the dam breaks. Incompatible Moon between husband and wife is devastating in so far because this type of incompatibility often takes it toll after one or two children are born. Same with Venus. So when it comes to compatibility between two birth charts when using sidereal zodiac or tropical zodiac in  50% of cases there are different results.  When a Jyotish astrologer says, yes, these two people are compatible for marriage, tropical zodiac says, no, these two are not compatible.

[Pratyatosa]

Here's an astrological prediction by Abhaya Mudra Dasi from May of 2016 that Trump would win: https://ebooks.iskcondesiretree.com/pdf/Astrological_Newsletter/THE_ASTROLOGICAL_NEWSLETTER_-_Issue-49_2016_May_18.pdf

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:24 PM rainer hahn <raine...@gmail.com> wrote:

Radha Ramana Prabhu is right. Point is that present ISKCON followers are mad after astrology. Finding out whether a future couple can communicate with each other (compatible Mercury) is easy to find out without astrology. Finding out whether they consider each other physically attractive (compatible Mars) is also evident without using astrology. When it comes to compatible Moons it is different. Emotions can be held off. Even up to 2-3 years. But then the dam breaks. Incompatible Moon between husband and wife is devastating in so far because this type of incompatibility often takes it toll after one or two children are born. Same with Venus. So when it comes to compatibility between two birth charts when using sidereal zodiac or tropical zodiac in  50% of cases there are different results.  When a Jyotish astrologer says, yes, these two people are compatible for marriage, tropical zodiac says, no, these two are not compatible.

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