SK122OCT03-2016:ID

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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 3, 2016, 12:22:11 PM10/3/16
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Dear Members,

Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Chandragiri Hill Kathmandu on 19 September 2016 at 8200 ft.


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 3, 2016, 8:55:37 PM10/3/16
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Thanks, Saroj ji

J.M. Garg

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Oct 12, 2016, 6:17:31 AM10/12/16
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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Nidhan Singh

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Oct 18, 2016, 5:13:17 AM10/18/16
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Interesting, never seen...hope the id is concluded !!
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 26, 2016, 5:45:33 AM10/26/16
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 26, 2016, 7:38:21 AM10/26/16
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Thanks, Rawat ji.

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Looks like some species of Saussurea (Asteraceae). Flowerheads are young.
DSRawat Pantnagar

Dr D.S.Rawat
Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture & Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA
eflorapantnagar displaying wild flora of Pantnagar

C CHADWELL

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Oct 26, 2016, 8:46:02 AM10/26/16
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Nothing comes to mind.   Best to wait and see what flower-heads look like when open.

Plants are not always conveniently in flower (or fruit) when we come across them.  However, it
is worthwhile including images of each species at different stages of development within the
reference photos for that species - though one needs to be familiar with the plant first.

It is seldom worthwhile collecting pressed specimens of a plant not in flower or fruit to take to a herbarium
for identification - most will be rejected.  Hard enough and at times uncertain enough when flowers or fruit
are present.

My first job as a field botanist in the UK was as team-leader of a survey of riverside vegetation
in Wales.  Our objective was to attempt to record every flowering plant (and sometimes bryophytes)
along 500m stretches of riverbank.  It was hardest in the spring when most plants had not reached
flowering stage.  Fewer clues available than when a plant is in flower or fruit - although for the UK
there is now 'The Vegetative Key to the British Flora' - which I have not been able to get into using much
yet.

It is going to be an awfully long time before the flora of Nepal or the Himalaya as a whole will be known sufficiently
well for a comparable guide for identifying plants based upon leaf characteristics to be prepared! 


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk






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Saroj Kasaju

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Oct 26, 2016, 11:28:17 AM10/26/16
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Dear all,

Since it is not yet in a flowering stage leaves look like Himalaiella deltoidea (DC.) Raab-Straube (provisionally accepted name) syn: Saussurea deltoidea (DC.) Sch.Bip. (ambiguous synonym).

Request for validation please.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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J.M. Garg

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Nov 4, 2016, 6:20:24 AM11/4/16
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Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 6, 2017, 10:51:21 AM3/6/17
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Saussurea candolleana Wall. ex DC. (accepted name)  ???


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Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Mar 6, 2017, 11:32:26 PM3/6/17
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Thanks,  Saroj ji

J.M. Garg

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Mar 13, 2017, 12:24:51 PM3/13/17
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Does not matches with images at Saussurea candolleana
May be some other genera.

Saroj Kasaju

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Mar 13, 2017, 12:47:02 PM3/13/17
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It has become very difficult to identify this plant !

Enclosing  Nepal list if it could do some help for ID.

Saroj Kasaju

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Nov 19, 2017, 8:00:31 AM11/19/17
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Dear all,

Enclosing some images from the book Flora of Kathmandu Valley, Stainton
and some links for validation. 

Flora of Kathmandu Valley listed only one Saussurea deltoidea (DC.) Sch.Bip. 
around Kathmandu valley but the Plant List says Himalaiella deltoidea (DC.) Raab-Straub
is the accepted name .







Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 28, 2017, 3:43:08 AM11/28/17
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Somehow, not getting convinced.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 25, 2018, 7:35:59 AM6/25/18
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Dear Mr. Garg,

Any further opinion about this post.
I guess the ID is correct.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Dec 2, 2019, 3:06:58 AM12/2/19
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If these images in GBIF are correct, it should be Himalaiella deltoidea only.

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Saroj Kasaju

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Dec 2, 2019, 3:10:34 AM12/2/19
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Thank you Mr. Garg.
Saroj Kasaju
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