Another Urticaceae ABAUG2016/50

[Ashwini Bhatia]

This large-leaved (many leaves were more than a foot long) plant very likely belongs to Urticaceae. The leaves were shiny, each long-stalked pair perpendicular to the next one on the stem and had no stinging hairs. Stipules were prominent with new flowers beginning to come out from the leaf axils. Please help with the ID.

Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1750m

18 August 2016.

Thanks.

Ashwini

[J.M. Garg]

Very nice images, Ashwini ji.

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

Thank you Mr Garg.

On 20 Aug 2016, at 09:18, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Very nice images, Ashwini ji.

On 19 August 2016 at 22:44, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

This large-leaved (many leaves were more than a foot long) plant very likely belongs to Urticaceae. The leaves were shiny, each long-stalked pair perpendicular to the next one on the stem and had no stinging hairs. Stipules were prominent with new flowers beginning to come out from the leaf axils. Please help with the ID.

Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1750m

18 August 2016.

Thanks.

Ashwini

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[ash...@ashwinibhatia.com]

Could this be Maoutia puya? Please advise.

Thanks.

Ashwini 

On 20-Aug-2016, at 9:18 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Very nice images, Ashwini ji.

On 19 August 2016 at 22:44, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

This large-leaved (many leaves were more than a foot long) plant very likely belongs to Urticaceae. The leaves were shiny, each long-stalked pair perpendicular to the next one on the stem and had no stinging hairs. Stipules were prominent with new flowers beginning to come out from the leaf axils. Please help with the ID.

Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1750m

18 August 2016.

Thanks.

Ashwini

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

Some more images from yesterday of the inflorescence to help with the ID.

Thanks.

Ashwini

[J.M. Garg]

Wonderful display.

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Could this be Maoutia puya? Please advise. Thanks. Ashwini

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[gurinder goraya]

Dears, 

Kindly check for Boehmeria platyphylla.

Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Could this be Maoutia puya? Please advise. Thanks. Ashwini

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Date: 19 August 2016 at 22:44
Subject: [efloraofindia:249649] Another Urticaceae ABAUG2016/50
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This large-leaved (many leaves were more than a foot long) plant very likely belongs to Urticaceae. The leaves were shiny, each long-stalked pair perpendicular to the next one on the stem and had no stinging hairs. Stipules were prominent with new flowers beginning to come out from the leaf axils. Please help with the ID.

Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1750m

18 August 2016.

Thanks.

Ashwini

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

Thank you Dr Goraya. I am confused between B. platyphylla and Maoutia puya. I am not sure of the difference.

Flora of Pakistan differs with FOI site in treating B. platyphylla as a different species and not as synonym of B. macrophylla. I am not sure which route to follow.

Regards,

Ashwini

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Ashwini ji.

Pl. see Boehmeria for details.

Problem arises as no one (FOC, FOP, FON or Floras of India) wants to state when they have published a particular volume of their flora in their efloras. That's why decision becomes difficult which one to follow. However, FOC appears to be the latest.

Boehmeria platyphylla D.Don (Tropical Africa, Pakistan eastwards to China and Japan) (syn. of Boehmeria macrophylla Hornem. as per The Plant List (published in 2014) & FOC). GRIN (updated in 2004) also supports this.

But now Catalogue of Life (released in 2016) says it to be syn. of Boehmeria virgata var. macrostachya (Wight) Friis & Wilmot-Dear & Boehmeria macrophylla (Thunb.) Hornem. is given as a syn. of Boehmeria virgata subsp. macrophylla (Hornem.) Friis & Wilmot-Dear

[J.M. Garg]

Further FOC say that Maoutia puya is found in Bhutan, China, NE India, Nepal, Sikkim, Vietnam & we do not have it in efi so far.

However, IBIS Flora states it to be found in HP.

To me images appears quite close to images at Boehmeria macrophylla

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

Thank you Mr Garg. Looking now at the inflorescence, I too think this is B. platyphylla (or B. macrophylla). 

Harder Singh and M. Sharma also note the presence of Maoutia puya in Chambs district.

A couple of new photos from the day before when I visited to check on the developing flowers are attached here for reference.

Thanks.

Ashwini

On 9 Sep 2016, at 10:56, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Further FOC say that Maoutia puya is found in Bhutan, China, NE India, Nepal, Sikkim, Vietnam & we do not have it in efi so far.

However, IBIS Flora states it to be found in HP.

To me images appears quite close to images at Boehmeria macrophylla

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Date: 26 August 2016 at 08:55
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:250094] Another Urticaceae ABAUG2016/50
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Some more images from yesterday of the inflorescence to help with the ID.

Thanks.

Ashwini

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

I am sorry about the typos (again inserted by my computer). It’s Harinder Singh in Chamba in Flora of Chamba District.

On 9 Sep 2016, at 13:48, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

Thank you Mr Garg. Looking now at the inflorescence, I too think this is B. platyphylla (or B. macrophylla). 

Harder Singh and M. Sharma also note the presence of Maoutia puya in Chambs district.

A couple of new photos from the day before when I visited to check on the developing flowers are attached here for reference.

Thanks.

Ashwini

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[J.M. Garg]

Now it is confirmed.

[Ashwini Bhatia]

And this should then be B. macrophylla var. rotundifolia. Please advise.

On 9 Sep 2016, at 13:59, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Now it is confirmed.

On 9 September 2016 at 13:48, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

Thank you Mr Garg. Looking now at the inflorescence, I too think this is B. platyphylla (or B. macrophylla). 

Harder Singh and M. Sharma also note the presence of Maoutia puya in Chambs district.

A couple of new photos from the day before when I visited to check on the developing flowers are attached here for reference.

Thanks.

Ashwini

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[J.M. Garg]

On further checking in Flora of Bhutan & Nepal checklist, I think these last three images should be of Boehmeria ternifolia as per high resolution specimens at

NHN  GBIF

Now it is confirmed.

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Date: Mon, 25 Sept 2023 at 17:51
Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:250094] Another Urticaceae ABAUG2016/50
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Cc: Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com>, DineshValke <dinesh...@gmail.com>

Taking it as Boehmeria virgata var. macrostachya (Wight) Friis & Wilmot-Dear as per discussions at Dinesh ji' s Flickr images of Boehmeria macrophylla ¿ var. scabrella ?

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Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 at 08:55
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Some more images from yesterday of the inflorescence to help with the ID.

Thanks.

Ashwini

On 25 Aug 2016, at 06:47, ash...@ashwinibhatia.com wrote:

Could this be Maoutia puya? Please advise.

Thanks.

Ashwini 

On 20-Aug-2016, at 9:18 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Very nice images, Ashwini ji.

On 19 August 2016 at 22:44, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

This large-leaved (many leaves were more than a foot long) plant very likely belongs to Urticaceae. The leaves were shiny, each long-stalked pair perpendicular to the next one on the stem and had no stinging hairs. Stipules were prominent with new flowers beginning to come out from the leaf axils. Please help with the ID.

Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1750m

18 August 2016.

Thanks.

Ashwini

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Date: Mon, 25 Sept 2023 at 17:51
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Cc: Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com>, DineshValke <dinesh...@gmail.com>

Taking it as Boehmeria virgata var. macrostachya (Wight) Friis & Wilmot-Dear as per discussions at Dinesh ji' s Flickr images of Boehmeria macrophylla ¿ var. scabrella ?

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To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

Some more images from yesterday of the inflorescence to help with the ID.

Thanks.

Ashwini

On 25 Aug 2016, at 06:47, ash...@ashwinibhatia.com wrote:

Could this be Maoutia puya? Please advise.

Thanks.

Ashwini 

On 20-Aug-2016, at 9:18 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Very nice images, Ashwini ji.

On 19 August 2016 at 22:44, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

This large-leaved (many leaves were more than a foot long) plant very likely belongs to Urticaceae. The leaves were shiny, each long-stalked pair perpendicular to the next one on the stem and had no stinging hairs. Stipules were prominent with new flowers beginning to come out from the leaf axils. Please help with the ID.

Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1750m

18 August 2016.

Thanks.

Ashwini

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