ID needed for Leh Flowers 25a&b

Nudrat Sayed

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Oct 12, 2010, 2:16:58 PM10/12/10

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Hello all.

Please identify. Are these Chrysanthemum by any chance.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 12, 2010, 3:40:48 PM10/12/10

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May be Tanacetum stoliczkae (C.B. Clarke) Khan

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tanay bose

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Oct 12, 2010, 8:32:26 PM10/12/10

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Something new for me Nudrat Ji can you kindly give the altitude of the place it was growing, if you have it

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shrikant ingalhalikar

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Oct 13, 2010, 12:16:30 AM10/13/10

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Waldheimia tomentosa? Regards, Shrikant

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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 13, 2010, 12:55:48 AM10/13/10

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Waldheimia tomentosa (syn: Allardia tomentosa) has white tomentose leaves, not in this plant. Tanacetum stoliczkae (syn: Allardia stoliczkae) has glabrous leaves. The two are described one after another in FBI.

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Navendu

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Oct 13, 2010, 1:12:57 AM10/13/10

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I think this is Chrysanthemum pyrethroides

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On Oct 13, 9:55 am, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Waldheimia tomentosa (syn: Allardia tomentosa) has white tomentose leaves,
> not in this plant. Tanacetum stoliczkae (syn: Allardia stoliczkae) has
> glabrous leaves. The two are described one after another in FBI.
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> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

> <http://www.planetefleurs.fr/Systematique/Asteraceae/Walhhm02a.htm>

Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 13, 2010, 1:48:32 AM10/13/10

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Yes finally perhaps Navendu ji is right

Here is my specimen of Chrysanthemum richteria from Ladakh (FBI name for plant), the new names being Chrysanthemum pyrethroides (Kar. & Kir.) B. Fedsch. (Fl. Ind., 1995), or Richteria pyrethroides Kar. & Kir. (eFlora of Pakistan).

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Gurcharan Singh

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Oct 13, 2010, 1:49:48 AM10/13/10

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Here it is, I forgot to upload earlier.

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Pankaj Kumar

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Oct 13, 2010, 8:51:54 AM10/13/10

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Chrysanthemum pyrethroides
Pankaj

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JM Garg

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Sep 29, 2016, 3:59:57 AM9/29/16

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This appears to be closer to the images of Spathipappus griffithii (C.B.Clarke) Tzvelev synonym of Tanacetum griffithii (C.B.Clarke) Muradyan as below:

http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/118613.html

http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/118711.html

Pl. have a look.

Images of Pyrethrum pyrethroides are a bit common on net. Pl. have a look at the following links:

http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/150914.html

http://www.holubec.wbs.cz/10-2013-Kazakhstan-Kyrgyzstan.html

http://www.track.kz/flora.htm

In view I am leaning more towards Tanacetum griffithii (C.B.Clarke) Muradyan

Earlier feedback:

"I think this is Chrysanthemum pyrethroides
navendu"

"Yes finally perhaps Navendu ji is right

Here is my specimen of Chrysanthemum richteria from Ladakh (FBI name for plant), the new names being Chrysanthemum pyrethroides (Kar. & Kir.) B. Fedsch. (Fl. Ind., 1995), or Richteria pyrethroides Kar. & Kir. (eFlora of Pakistan).

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"Chrysanthemum pyrethroides
Pankaj"

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 29, 2016, 5:37:36 AM9/29/16

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GBIF gives Type specimen links of Pyrethrum pyrethroides (Kar. & Kir.) B.Fedtsch. ex Krasch. (syn:Chrysanthemum artemisiifolium Klatt; Chrysanthemum pyrethroides (Kar. & Kir.) B.Fedtsch.; Chrysanthemum richteria Benth. ; Chrysanthemum richteria Benth. ex Hook.f. ; Pyrethrum pyrethroides (Kar. & Kir.) B.Fedtsch.; Richteria pyrethroides Kar. & Kir.; Tanacetum pyrethroides (Kar. & Kir.) Muradyan; Tanacetum pyrethroides (Kar. & Kir.) Muradyan; Tanacetum pyrethroides (Kar. & Kir.) Sch.Bip.) as below:

Link 1 (Chrysanthemum artemisiifolium Klatt)

Link 2 (Richteria pyrethroides Kar. & Kir.)

If we go by the type specimen at Gbif, our posted plant is Pyrethrum pyrethroides (Kar. & Kir.) B.Fedtsch. ex Krasch.

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Sep 30, 2016, 12:43:03 AM9/30/16

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Thanks, Chadwell ji.

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Date: 30 September 2016 at 04:16
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:252457] Fwd: ID needed for Leh Flowers 25a&b
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OK

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Sep 30, 2016, 12:43:41 AM9/30/16

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Thanks, Chadwell ji.

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Date: 30 September 2016 at 04:20
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I note from the field notes for C.artemisifolium that it has been incorrectly included within Xizang (Tibet)

as is a Schlagintweit collection from Zanskar (Padam being the capital) - compounded by use by British

of "Western Tibet", most of which was never in 'Tibet' proper (at least not in recent centuries). I have

seen this in other US herbaria.

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Thanks, Chadwell ji.

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Yes, I am currently in agreement with such thinking.

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