Echinops cornigerus DC.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Sharing some pictures i guess is Echinops cornigerus DC. shot at Sangam Leh on 20 August 2016.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

We do not have it so far in efi. Pl. see comparative images at Echinops

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji.
In that case we need to have a rebook at our plants from Ladakh and Kashmir.

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From: "C CHADWELL" <chrischa...@btinternet.com>
Date: 3 Oct 2016 23:13
Subject: Re: Fwd: Echinops cornigerus DC.
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc:

For once I can quickly confirm this is Echinops cornigerus - the only species of the genus so

far correctly recorded from Ladakh.  'Flowers of Himalaya' say grazing grounds and stony slopes;

prominent in Ladakh - certainly in Upper Indus Valley to 4000m.  Also recorded for Kashmir and many

parts of Pakistan.

But, unfortunately, then things might become more complicated - just for a change (English humour)!

In 'Flora Simlensis' Collet has both E.cornigerus and E.niveus as common in Shimla, which seems

rather surprising.

He distinguishing between the two on the basis of the outer involucral bracts being numerous, soft, hair-like

& leaf-lobes broad in E.cornigerus whereas he says the involucral bracts are few, spathulate, spine-tipped with

leaf lobes linear in E.niveus.   There is a line drawing labelled as E.niveus.   I wonder if any confusion between the

two has occurred?

'Flowers of Himalaya' does not mention E.niveus, which according to Stewart has records from Hazara & Murree

but not Kashmir & 1300-2700m.

Stewart also lists E.echinatus but I did mention this as it seems to be a pains species (rarely found up to 1500m)

and with smaller heads.

It is surprising the E.cornigerus should be a 'new' species for the site given how prominent it is the Upper

Indus Valley - a plant which tourists would notice from their vehicles in open 'desert' areas.

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

http://www.shpa.org.uk/

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 3 October 2016, 12:54
Subject: Fwd: Echinops cornigerus DC.

[Saroj Kasaju]

Is it correct ID . Noticed already included in the efi !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju