Request ID of this garden Fern - 07/05/2015

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Ranjini Kamath

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May 7, 2015, 3:08:17 AM5/7/15
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Bangalore - 08/04/2015. Showing spores & fungus attack.
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Promila Chaturvedi

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May 10, 2015, 8:43:02 AM5/10/15
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I think it is stag horn fern-Platycerium bifurcatum.
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Bangalore - 08/04/2015. Showing spores & fungus attack.

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Ushadi Micromini

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May 10, 2015, 10:22:57 AM5/10/15
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Ranjini, your spores dx is correct

AND
fungus is really a bunched up colony/web  of what  i think is spider mites,  emerging,    look to the right end of the web, one is emerging


A plant pathologist can confirm it or refute  it

Gargji would know who to send it to.

usha

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Bangalore - 08/04/2015. Showing spores & fungus attack.

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Ranjini Kamath

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May 11, 2015, 1:02:40 AM5/11/15
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Thank you Promila Chaturvedi & Usha di For helping out..
 Regards

Dr Pankaj Kumar

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May 11, 2015, 9:56:02 PM5/11/15
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I would say this is Asplenium nidus, some how deformed !!
For sure not Platycerium!!
Pankaj

Ushadi Micromini

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May 12, 2015, 12:03:10 AM5/12/15
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Pankaj you are right about this being a bird's nest fern

and NOT a staghorn fern.



I have seen those bifurcated ends variants of staghorn fern  (they even have similar variants for the boston fern, i even bought one) for the last three or four years in the horticulture garden shows in the winter, brought in by the growers who come from Siliguri, Darjeeling and Assam

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but my question was about the critters in picture 4 , last pic.
do you know what they might be?
looking forward to your thoughts
usha di

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Pankaj Kumar

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May 12, 2015, 6:30:59 AM5/12/15
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They are mealybugs.
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Ushadi Micromini

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May 12, 2015, 8:24:38 AM5/12/15
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Oh, I thought mealy bugs were ussually white..
and I have a question about this one in th cirle

its longish, almost translucent...
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what is  it?
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Pankaj Kumar

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May 12, 2015, 8:28:28 AM5/12/15
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Juveniles.... :)

Ranjini Kamath

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May 12, 2015, 8:30:46 AM5/12/15
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Thank you,Pankaj Kumar & Usha di for the correction.Interesting to know these are Mealy-bugs.
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Ushadi Micromini

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May 12, 2015, 8:33:44 AM5/12/15
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:)

yes
after i had asked the question
did some life cycle  images and found it


amazing
they have such longish antennae when young but adults dont have them that long

right now a plumeria pudica in my balcony is being eaten alive, because i had neglected it for a week or so when i got sick..

they attack when one is down... bad crtitters


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Alka Khare

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May 12, 2015, 11:14:57 AM5/12/15
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Any home-made or organic remedy?

They have currently attacked some of my plants too, particularly the asters, I had to trim it down substantially today.

Thanks and regards
Alka Khare

Ranjini Kamath

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May 13, 2015, 2:22:38 AM5/13/15
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I had mealy bugs growing profusely on the underside of my potted Ficus Triangularis leaves. All I do is to spray [ strong spray ] the plant everyday - specially under the leaves.My bldng gardener's very down-to -earth advice - It works beautifully :)
  You could try it!!
Regards
  Ranjini Kamath

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Ranjini Kamath

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May 13, 2015, 3:02:16 AM5/13/15
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... Sorry, forgot to mention - spray with plain water.
  Ranjini Kamath

Pankaj Kumar

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May 13, 2015, 3:51:53 AM5/13/15
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Good good. Yes we also remove it manually as we don't use and inorganic chemicals in our garden. I don't know but even neem extract or may be eucalyptus oil should work!! 
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Pankaj Kumar

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May 13, 2015, 3:56:57 AM5/13/15
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My staffs say they do it manually. It's the best way. They also use Biokill. 
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Ranjini Kamath

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May 13, 2015, 8:42:03 AM5/13/15
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Thank you Pankaj ji for this useful information.
 Regards

Ushadi Micromini

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May 13, 2015, 8:53:03 AM5/13/15
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I use dishwashing detergent liquid 1/4 teaspoon to a liter of water and spray it and then  wash off with full speed garden hose.

it also washes away the "dew" dropped by the bugs.

I have in the past  added neem oil,did not do comparison research with soap  or soap and neem oil, so dont know if it did any wonders.

or if plant is in the in the house/balcony  bring it under the cold shower put it in a large plastic tub to take up the mud so it does not get splashed all over the BR floor.

works

and sometimes I just trim away the plant branches that are highly infested and throw in garbage, let the critters be happy in the garbage dump.

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Alka Khare

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May 14, 2015, 6:36:16 AM5/14/15
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Thanks everyone for your advice, I will try with the spray first with some detergent....

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J.M. Garg

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May 21, 2015, 3:25:03 AM5/21/15
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I would say this is Asplenium nidus, some how deformed !!

For sure not Platycerium!!
Pankaj                                         


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Ushadi Micromini

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May 21, 2015, 9:47:55 AM5/21/15
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its a birds' nest fern, making spores = healthy part of its life history

and infected= deformed (mealy bugs drink up the nutritional juice, sap) and invite other infections ...
hence looks a bit weird

I thought we had this solved
and Pankaj gave the binomial too

Usha di
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J.M. Garg

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May 21, 2015, 10:54:34 AM5/21/15
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Thanks, Dr. Chris.
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From: Chris Fraser-Jenkins
Date: 21 May 2015 at 19:01
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:223034] Request ID of this garden Fern - 07/05/2015
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Dear friends,
      It's a rather splendid cristate cultivar of Asplenium phylltidis.  It probably has a cv. name in Japan or somewhere, but I wonder what its first country of origin was.  Knowing that (or checking if the spores bear long spines) would decide between the two subspecies (or species) subsp. phyllitidis or subsp. malesicum.
     Many species of many genera are prized for their cristate, tasselled or plumose cultivars, which are due to genetic mutations in simple gene ratios.
      Cheers,
              Chris Fraser-Jenkins, shaking around in Kathmandu!


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