Fwd: Request for the identification

[J.M. Garg]

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From: Sanjeet <sanjeet...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 October 2017 at 10:50
Subject: Request for the identification
To: jmg...@gmail.com

Dear Garg Sir

Need your help for the identification of this plant.

strobilanthes ?

Thanking You

Regards

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Sanjeet Kumar (PhD, DELF)

Institute of Bio-Resources and Sustainable Development

Imphal, Manipur (Dept. of Biotechnology, Govt. of India)

President

Ambika Prasad Research Foundation

Bhubaneswar, Odisha

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Managing Editor

Journal of Biodiversity and Conservation

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[J.M. Garg]

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From: Sanjeet <sanjeet...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 October 2017 at 10:50
Subject: Request for the identification
To: jmg...@gmail.com

Dear Garg Sir

Need your help for the identification of this plant.

strobilanthes ?

Thanking You

Regards

--

Sanjeet Kumar (PhD, DELF)

Institute of Bio-Resources and Sustainable Development

Imphal, Manipur (Dept. of Biotechnology, Govt. of India)

President

Ambika Prasad Research Foundation

Bhubaneswar, Odisha

www.aprf.org.in

Managing Editor

Journal of Biodiversity and Conservation

www.aprfjournal.org.in

 

[J.M. Garg]

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From: John Wood
Date: 13 October 2017 at 16:49
Subject: Re: Request for the identification
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

I am puzzled by this. It  is certainly not Strobilanthes atropurpurea. The arrangement of the stamens looks odd for Strobilanthes (Although 2 long, 2 short is okay) though the habit and corolla shape seem okay. There are relatively few Strobilanthes with 4 exserted stamens. Are there more photos or is there a specimen available which could be photographed?

Regards

John Wood

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Sent: 13 October 2017 06:45
To: efloraofindia
Cc: sanjeet...@gmail.com
Subject: Fwd: Request for the identification

 

Does not matches with images at Strobilanthes atropurpureus. Pl. check comparative images at ‎Strobilanthes

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From: Sanjeet <sanjeet...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 October 2017 at 10:50
Subject: Request for the identification
To: jmg...@gmail.com

Dear Garg Sir

Need your help for the identification of this plant.

strobilanthes ?

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I am puzzled by this. It  is certainly not Strobilanthes atropurpurea. The arrangement of the stamens looks odd for Strobilanthes (Although 2 long, 2 short is okay) though the habit and corolla shape seem okay. There are relatively few Strobilanthes with 4 exserted stamens. Are there more photos or is there a specimen available which could be photographed. Regards John Wood

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Dr. Wood.

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From: John Wood
Date: 20 October 2017 at 14:04
Subject: Re: Request for the identification
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

The situation hasn't changed. I cannot recognise it. It may be Strobilanthes but I would like to see more photos or a photo of a dried specimen or, ideally, a specimen.

Regards

John Wood

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Sent: 20 October 2017 08:40
To: efloraofindia
Cc: Sanjeet

[J.M. Garg]

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: 14 October 2017 at 14:29
Subject: Fwd: More pic sending
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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From: Sanjeet <sanjeet...@gmail.com>

Date: 14 October 2017 at 13:53
Subject: More pic sending
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear sir

Pls do find

Regards

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:02 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Dr. Wood.

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From: John Wood

Date: 13 October 2017 at 16:49

Subject: Re: Request for the identification
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

I am puzzled by this. It  is certainly not Strobilanthes atropurpurea. The arrangement of the stamens looks odd for Strobilanthes (Although 2 long, 2 short is okay) though the habit and corolla shape seem okay. There are relatively few Strobilanthes with 4 exserted stamens. Are there more photos or is there a specimen available which could be photographed?

Regards

John Wood

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Sent: 13 October 2017 06:45
To: efloraofindia
Cc: sanjeet...@gmail.com

Subject: Fwd: Request for the identification

Does not matches with images at Strobilanthes atropurpureus. Pl. check comparative images at ‎Strobilanthes

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From: Sanjeet <sanjeet...@gmail.com>
Date: 13 October 2017 at 10:50
Subject: Request for the identification
To: jmg...@gmail.com

Dear Garg Sir

Need your help for the identification of this plant.

strobilanthes ?

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[J.M. Garg]

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: 14 October 2017 at 14:28
Subject: Fwd: More pic sending
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>

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From: Sanjeet <sanjeet...@gmail.com>
Date: 14 October 2017 at 13:53
Subject: More pic sending
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear sir

Pls do find

[J.M. Garg]

Based on the imbedded image from Sikkim below, I think it appears close to images at Strobilanthes cordifolia (Vahl) J. R. I. Wood (Images by A. Lalithamba (id by Mark Carine))

Pl. confirm.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

But it seems to be highly variable species as can be seen from different set of images at Strobilanthes cordifolia (Vahl) J. R. I. Wood

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From: Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com>
Date: 30 October 2017 at 13:55
Subject: Re: Request for the identification
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

It is not Strobilanthes cordifolia 

regards

A.Lalithamba

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dr, Mark Carine ji,

Pl. see the detailed discussion at thread Stenosiphonium confertum Nees

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From: Mark Carine
Date: 30 October 2017 at 14:08
Subject: RE: Request for the identification
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear J.M. Garg,

 

Apologies, I do not recall providing a det for this plant? This really is John Wood’s area of expertise so I would follow his det.

 

All good wishes,

 

Mark

 

 

Dr Mark Carine

Principal Curator-in-Charge, Algae, Fungi and Plants Division

Department of Life Sciences

The Natural History Museum

Cromwell Road

London

SW7 5BD

United Kingdom

 

Tel: 020 7942 5541

 

From: J.M. Garg [mailto:jmg...@gmail.com]
Sent: 30 October 2017 08:04
To: efloraofindia
Cc: Sanjeet; Lalithamba Avadhanam

Subject: Fwd: Request for the identification

 

Based on the imbedded image from Sikkim below, I think it appears close to images at Strobilanthes cordifolia (Vahl) J. R. I. Wood (Images by A. Lalithamba (id by Mark Carine))

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dr. Mark.

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From: Mark Carine
Date: 30 October 2017 at 14:28
Subject: RE: Request for the identification
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear J.M. Garg,

 

Many thanks. S. cordifolia is a variable species in terms of pubescence. S. confertum was previously described from the Courtallus Hills for a densely pubescent form that woul match your plant but reliably differentiating taxa based on this character is not possible.

 

Kind regards,

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

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From: Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com>
Date: 30 October 2017 at 17:04
Subject: Re: Request for the identification
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Thank you Gargji,

The pubescence, leaf, bract are confusing to me. The image clarity is also not clear . Hence thank you for the clarifications. In our area it is abundant.

thank you

regards

A.Lalithamba

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Dr. Wood.

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From: John Wood
Date: 30 October 2017 at 18:03
Subject: Re: Request for the identification
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

I have now worked this out, having discovered it comes from Mizoram. It is Strobilanthes affinis (Griff.) J.R.I.  Wood & J.R.Benn. (=Strobilanthes acrocephela T. Anderson).

Regards

John Wood

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>

Sent: 30 October 2017 08:04
To: efloraofindia
Cc: Sanjeet; Lalithamba Avadhanam

Subject: Fwd: Request for the identification

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

I am a bit confused from Dr. Mark's reply.

What dies she exactly mean about your plant ?

On 30 October 2017 at 19:29, Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Gargji , finally it is found different from Strobilanthes cordifolia 

regards

A.Lalithamba