Saxifraga parnassifolia ABJUL01/12

[Ashwini Bhatia]

While looking for an old photograph in my backup hard disk, I came across a few plants I had photographed in 2014 and never edited them. I will share them in separate emails for your advice. This one, I think, is the Himalayan Saxifrage. I will look out for it this year for better photographs. Please advise.

Saxifraga parnassifolia—Himalayan Saxifrage

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1900m

31 August, 2014.

Thanks.

Ashwini

[Gurcharan Singh]

I think yes. Ignore/crop twig on the right which may cause confusion.

Better photos at 

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/WNZ8XPliu_c

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

You are right Dr Singh. These are again from 2014 when I did not know better. I hope to find these again to photograph them properly this time. 

Could the leaves on the right be of Oplismenus compositus?

Thanks and regards,

Ashwini

On 8 Jul 2016, at 21:14, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think yes. Ignore/crop twig on the right which may cause confusion.

Better photos at 

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/WNZ8XPliu_c

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089

http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

While looking for an old photograph in my backup hard disk, I came across a few plants I had photographed in 2014 and never edited them. I will share them in separate emails for your advice. This one, I think, is the Himalayan Saxifrage. I will look out for it this year for better photographs. Please advise.

Saxifraga parnassifolia—Himalayan Saxifrage

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1900m

31 August, 2014.

Thanks.

Ashwini

<_MG_7327_31Aug2014.jpg><_MG_7330_31Aug2014.jpg><_MG_7331_31Aug2014.jpg>

[J.M. Garg]

Lovely, Ashwini ji.

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

Thank you once again Mr Garg.

On 9 Jul 2016, at 09:28, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Lovely, Ashwini ji.

On 8 July 2016 at 20:27, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

While looking for an old photograph in my backup hard disk, I came across a few plants I had photographed in 2014 and never edited them. I will share them in separate emails for your advice. This one, I think, is the Himalayan Saxifrage. I will look out for it this year for better photographs. Please advise.

Saxifraga parnassifolia—Himalayan Saxifrage

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1900m

31 August, 2014.

Thanks.

Ashwini

<_MG_7327_31Aug2014.jpg><_MG_7330_31Aug2014.jpg><_MG_7331_31Aug2014.jpg>

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

These beautiful golden yellow flowers are plentiful at higher slopes. I am sharing some photos here.

Saxifraga parnassifolia

21 August 2016

Thanks.

Ashwini

On 9 Jul 2016, at 09:28, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Lovely, Ashwini ji.

On 8 July 2016 at 20:27, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

While looking for an old photograph in my backup hard disk, I came across a few plants I had photographed in 2014 and never edited them. I will share them in separate emails for your advice. This one, I think, is the Himalayan Saxifrage. I will look out for it this year for better photographs. Please advise.

Saxifraga parnassifolia—Himalayan Saxifrage

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1900m

31 August, 2014.

Thanks.

Ashwini

<_MG_7327_31Aug2014.jpg><_MG_7330_31Aug2014.jpg><_MG_7331_31Aug2014.jpg>

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[J.M. Garg]

Wonderful images!!!

On 25 August 2016 at 09:34, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

These beautiful golden yellow flowers are plentiful at higher slopes. I am sharing some photos here.

Saxifraga parnassifolia

21 August 2016

Thanks.

Ashwini

On 9 Jul 2016, at 09:28, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Lovely, Ashwini ji.

On 8 July 2016 at 20:27, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

While looking for an old photograph in my backup hard disk, I came across a few plants I had photographed in 2014 and never edited them. I will share them in separate emails for your advice. This one, I think, is the Himalayan Saxifrage. I will look out for it this year for better photographs. Please advise.

Saxifraga parnassifolia—Himalayan Saxifrage

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

1900m

31 August, 2014.

Thanks.

Ashwini

<_MG_7327_31Aug2014.jpg><_MG_7330_31Aug2014.jpg><_MG_7331_31Aug2014.jpg>

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[Nidhan Singh]

Excellent shots Ashwini Ji....!!

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[Ashwini Bhatia]

Thank you once again Nidhan Singh ji.

[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

You are correct, this is Saxifraga parnassifolia. So you have photographed this and S.moorcroftiana (from a higher elevation) in HP.  In addition to the differences between this and S.moorcroftiana given in 'Flowers of the Himalaya', the assorted images of both species posted on this site and my own images of S.moorcroftiana have shown clear differences.  S.parnassifolia has more rounded /circular petals with 2 noticeable 'appendages' at the base of petals. S.moorcroftiana does not have the appendages but typically markings on the interior of the petals which are narrower, a markedly different shape.

Both species are recorded for this region.  Other than that, I think, given that not only has there been confusion between the two species historically, that has continued to this day, as shown by the postings on this site, quoting what the floras and references have to say is pointless.  I feel I have built up the better understanding - thanks to viewing plants in the wild and the other images seen thanks to eFI.  This is superior to pressed specimens alone in herbaria.....

I think in light of your images and my better understanding of the differences between the two species, ALL previous records of both species need reviewing in herbaria and their distribution, altitudinally and geographically needs reviewing.

A clear lesson that one needs to check.  I could have assumed all the postings for S.parnassifolia were correct because the first ones were (and the last, this one) but others turned out to be S.moorcroftiana.

The images posted by yourself and others on eFI have been informative to complement characteristics observed on herbarium specimens - which is the future, to combine digital photos, living specimens in cultivation of known provenance and traditional pressed specimens.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji

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