Holly?/ABMAR19

[Ashwini Bhatia]

I had photographed another similar plant a while ago intending to share but could not do so. Yesterday I found another specimen near the town and photographed it. It looks like a European Holly. I am not sure what it is though. Please advise.

17 March 2015

Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP

750m

Thanks.

Ashwini

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

‎Ilex‎ species so far in efi

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Thanks, Varun ji.

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From: Varun Sharma
Date: 23 March 2015 at 12:45
Subject: RE: [efloraofindia:218299] Holly?/ABMAR19
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Dear Sir,

 

It is difficult to predict exact species just from leaves, but resembles more to Ilex aquifolium L..

 

Kind regards,

 

Varun

[Narain Singh Chauhan]

To me it looks like Ilex dipyrena from the structure of leaves.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Navendu ji.

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From: navendu page
Date: 23 March 2015 at 14:55
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:218299] Holly?/ABMAR19
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

It does look like a species of Ilex

Navendu

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Pappadi ji.

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From: RR Pappadi <rrpa...@gmail.com>
Date: 23 March 2015 at 19:21
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:218299] Holly?/ABMAR19
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>

Ushadi had identified the photo of a sample I had uploaded to be that of Ilex cornuta and Vijayasankar seemed to have agreed to it. The present one by Ashwini Bhatia looks a bit different to my inexperienced eye.:D

[Ashwini Bhatia]

Thank you Varun ji. I also suspect it to be closer to Ilex aquifolium but is it found in India in the wild? The other option suggestion by Dr Chauhan is Ilex dipyrena but the leaves in my sample seem harder and more pointed than the pictures of I. dipyrena on the internet. But pictures are not the best judge and I could be looking at I. dipyrena.

Thank you Navendu ji and Pappadi ji for your advise.

Thanks and regards,

Ashwini

Thanks, Varun ji.

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[Narain Singh Chauhan]

Pictures from internet can not  always tell  you the true story. Since you have access to the original specimen , that too live in the vicinity of Dharamsala,you can very well compare with description given in Flora Simlensis by Collet .

[Ashwini Bhatia]

I agree with you completely Dr Chauhan and I will do as you advised.

Thanks and regards,

Ashwini

[Ashwini Bhatia]

Dear Dr Chauhan,

I finally got my copy of the Flora Simlensis today and I took it to the actual plant. I am not certain if I can say with confidence that I can now identify it correctly. The spikes on my sample are very hard and raised (please see the profile picture). I agree with you that since this is found here at this altitude, it most likely is Ilex dipyrena. If I am correct it should soon be flowering and we can get a better idea then. My sample is young and small and may not flower but I will search again.

Thanks.

Ashwini

On 24-Mar-2015, at 1:21 pm, Narain Singh Chauhan <nscha...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Narain Singh Chauhan]

Dear Ashwani Bhatia, 

You will find the tree in flowering stage in the forests around and above Dharamsala. It can alsoi be found easily while moving around Dalhousie.

[Ushadi Micromini]

Ashwini where in the world did you buy this old book from

available now?

usha di

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Ashwini Bhatia <ash...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote:

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[Ushadi Micromini]

I just found it on amazon.com

wonderful

usha di

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