Lamiaceae (inc. Verbenaceae) Fortnight: Lamiaceae- Leucas for sp. confirmation. from, Coimbatore -BRS MAY01/24

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Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy

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May 5, 2015, 6:01:54 AM5/5/15
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Pl. find the attached file contain Photo for Id. confirmation.

Photo was taken during 2011.
Location: Anaikatti, Coimbatore.
Habitat: Wild
Habit: Herb.
 
Thanks

B. Rathinasabapathy
Ecologist



herb for id. flower 3 May.jpg
herb for id. flower May 2.jpg
BRS (NBNP) IMG_0166.JPG

J.M. Garg

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May 8, 2015, 6:58:13 AM5/8/15
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

From the Photos I guess it is Ocimeae group species, probably Orthosiphon or Plectranthus sp.
Sampath Kumar
 

Orthosiphon species in efi with keys 

Plectranthus species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available)

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May 8, 2015, 7:45:49 AM5/8/15
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Thanks, Kalidasa ji.

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Date: 8 May 2015 at 17:13
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:222789] Lamiaceae (inc. Verbenaceae) Fortnight: Lamiaceae- Leucas for sp. confirmation. from, Coimbatore -BRS MAY01/24
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This is belongs to the genus Orthosiphon 



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May 8, 2015, 7:58:46 AM5/8/15
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Leucas angularis Benth.

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J.M. Garg

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Thanks, Ramachandran ji.

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It is LEUCAS BIFLORA.

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J.M. Garg

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Thanks, Kunhikannan ji.


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It is Leucas angularis Benth. = (Syn: Leucas marrubioides Desf. var. pulneyensis Hook.f. )

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:49 PM, C Kunhikannan <kunhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
It is a species of Leucas


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J.M. Garg

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May 8, 2015, 11:46:46 PM5/8/15
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Thanks, Ajayan ji.

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sir seems to be Leucas biflora

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For me it looks like Leucas chinensis.

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J.M. Garg

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Leucas angularis Benth. - from Santhan ji.                                        

It is LEUCAS BIFLORA.--

With warm regards,
Dr. V. S. Ramachandran

 

It is Leucas angularis Benth. = (Syn: Leucas marrubioides Desf. var. pulneyensis Hook.f. ) 

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seems to be Leucas biflora- from Ajayan ji.  

For me it looks like Leucas chinensis.- from mahadeswara ji.

No efi page on Leucas angularis so far.

 

 


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May 15, 2015, 2:04:07 AM5/15/15
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Thanks, Jayanthi ji.

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Leucas biflora.
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Muthu Karthick

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May 15, 2015, 2:28:19 AM5/15/15
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Interesting plant. Its cannot be L.biflora.

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surajit koley

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May 15, 2015, 11:03:16 AM5/15/15
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Thank you for sharing an unknown species.
If it was my species I would have selected Leucas angularis Benth. out of the suggested ids.

Regards


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J.M. Garg

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Dear Garg ji,
looks like  L. biflora but has far more flowers than 4.
Leucas marrubioides Desf is my call.

Jui Pethe
Principal Investigator, (Fellow, SoRF, DST.)
Wild Vegetables study group.
Nature Conservation Society of Nashik.

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surajit koley

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May 26, 2015, 2:06:36 PM5/26/15
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Please let me first tell that I am no authority to any genus/species, all of you know I have no qualification so that I can claim slightest degree of authority. and for the new members as well as for all, my modified identity will automatically be appended in each mail.
Another point I would like to clarify is that as a general member I think I am expected to reply or express my view on certain ids. Sometimes I give opinion on my own, please ignore henceforth.

As per literature, mostly outdated, available with me -

  • Leucas biflora (Vahl) Sm.
number of flowers rejects the idea.

  • Leucas marrubioides Desf.
should have villous bracts often equalling the calyx tube; as can be seen in http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Horehound%20Leucas.html and in http://www.efloraofgandhinagar.in/herb/leucas-marrubioides

  • Leucas chinensis (Retz.) R. Br.
here I find problem. I think FoC should have authority on the description of this taxon, Smita Ji also pointed out that in another thread. The description of this taxon is not same in our country website like http://keralaplants.in/keralaplantsdetails.aspx?id=Leucas_chinensis. You can see calyx feature there clearly which is similar to http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000929492. On the other hand leaves of this species are sessile or sub-sessile, calyx different in FoC and in Taiwan My view is the images attached in this thread neither have Indian calyx nor have China's petiole.



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surajit koley

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May 26, 2015, 2:25:56 PM5/26/15
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I would also like to add that as per FBI -
  • L. marrubioides Desf. var. pulneyensis should have flexuous calyx teeth as long as the tube
  • L. angularis Benth. should have teeth very slender ciliate half as long as the tube
I fail to see above features also.

I cannot rule out Taiwan's L. chinensis entirely!

Thank you
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surajit koley

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Jun 10, 2015, 1:35:50 AM6/10/15
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To my understanding I agree with the suggested ID - Leucas angularis Wall. ex Benth.; the species is confined to Kerala and TN as per the monograph.

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