Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25

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Anil Thakur

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Jun 27, 2016, 2:02:26 PM6/27/16
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Campanula cana
Shimla
March/April


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Anil Thakur

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One more photograph showing stigma.
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 28, 2016, 12:57:44 AM6/28/16
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Wonderful details, Anil ji.

Campanula cana
Shimla
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Thank you, Garg ji

Anil Thakur

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Style and Stigma visible very clearly



On 6/28/16, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wonderful details, Anil ji.
>
> On 27 June 2016 at 23:32, Anil Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Campanula cana
>> Shimla
>> March/April
>>
>>
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>>
>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur
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Thanks, Anil ji.
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I have my doubts about this coming with C.cana - see the posting I am about to make of an image taken in H.P. of what I
consider is C.cana.

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Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji.

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Apr 20, 2018, 3:02:51 AM4/20/18
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I think this may be Campanula pallida as per images and keys at Flora of China (Hypanthium obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly triangular, or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins), margin entire or rarely serrulate as per details at C. pallida)


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Apr 20, 2018, 11:11:12 PM4/20/18
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Thank you, Garg ji
Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity. 
Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) and included C. canescens and C. cana under this.

Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not erect as for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha mentioned in Flora Simlensis but with bluish flowers .

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On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think this may be Campanula pallida as per images and keys at Flora of China (Hypanthium obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly triangular, or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins), margin entire or rarely serrulate as per details at C. pallida)


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Campanula cana
Shimla
March/April


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Apr 21, 2018, 12:24:00 AM4/21/18
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Thanks, Anil ji.
After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very difficult to segregate. Keys in Flora of China are also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very close.
It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the time being.
May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with citations as mentioned in Flora Simlensis.
I think Tabish ji will also agree for this.

On 21 April 2018 at 08:40, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Garg ji
Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity. 
Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) and included C. canescens and C. cana under this.

Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not erect as for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha mentioned in Flora Simlensis but with bluish flowers .

Regards
On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think this may be Campanula pallida as per images and keys at Flora of China (Hypanthium obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly triangular, or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins), margin entire or rarely serrulate as per details at C. pallida)


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Campanula cana
Shimla
March/April


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Apr 21, 2018, 12:33:48 AM4/21/18
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Even Flora of China is not reliable is evident from corolla being mentioned as purple, blue-purple, or blue for C. pallida and blue, blue-purple, or violet for C. cana
There is no mention of white corolla at all.
Flora of Pakistan does not mention anything about Campanula cana
BSI has not released any flora on Campanulaceae so far.

Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 21, 2018, 1:06:29 AM4/21/18
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Thank you, Garg Ji

I'll do it in the evening. I'll try to go through all the FLORAS
available with me.

Regards


On 4/21/18, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even Flora of China
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> is not
> reliable is evident from corolla being mentioned as purple, blue-purple, or
> blue for *C. pallida*
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242421018> and
> blue, blue-purple, or violet for *C. cana*
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200022861>
> There is no mention of white corolla at all.
> Flora of Pakistan
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=105395> does
> not mention anything about *Campanula cana *
> BSI has not released any flora on Campanulaceae so far.
>
> On 21 April 2018 at 09:53, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Anil ji.
>> After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very difficult to
>> segregate. Keys in Flora of China
>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> are
>> also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very close.
>> *It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the time being.*
>> May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with citations as
>> mentioned in Flora Simlensis.
>> I think Tabish ji will also agree for this.
>>
>> On 21 April 2018 at 08:40, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur
>> <aniltha...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you, Garg ji
>>> Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity.
>>> Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) and
>>> included C. canescens and C. cana under this.
>>>
>>> Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not erect
>>> as
>>> for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha mentioned in
>>> Flora
>>> Simlensis but with bluish flowers .
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think this may be Campanula pallida
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/campanula/campanula-pallida>
>>>> as
>>>> per images and keys at Flora of China
>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395>
>>>> (Hypanthium
>>>> obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly
>>>> triangular,
>>>> or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins),
>>>> margin
>>>> entire or rarely serrulate as per details at *C. pallida*
>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242421018>)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Anil Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 27 June 2016 at 23:32
>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:245795] Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25
>>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Campanula cana
>>>> Shimla
>>>> March/April
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> India'.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> J.M.Garg
>>
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>>
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>> India'.
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>
>
>
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Apr 22, 2018, 8:27:33 AM4/22/18
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Thanks, Anil ji,
Awaiting your inputs pl. 

Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 22, 2018, 8:28:45 AM4/22/18
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Respected Garg Ji

As desired by you, I am posting the details of all the species of
Campanula found in H.P.

FLORA OF HIMACHAL PRADESH (Vol. 2) by H.J. Chowdhery & B.M. Wadhwa, 1984

1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson (Chamba and Kinnaur)
2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC. (from Shimla and Lahul & Spiti)
3. Campanula aristata Wall. (Chamba and L&S)
4. Campanula cana Wall. (Shimla and Kinnaur)
5. Campanula cashmeriana Royle (Chamba and L&S)
6. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. (Chamba,
Kangra, Kinnaur, Kullu, L&S, Shimla, Solan, Una i.e. from hills as
well as plains)
7. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S)
8. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur)

FLORA SIMLENSIS by Sir Henry Collett, 1902
1. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC.
2. Campanula colorata Wall. (now Campanula pallida Wall.) and also
included Campanula cana Wall. under this.
3. Campanula latifolia L.

FLORA OF BASHAHR (includes parts of Shimla and Kinnaur) by N.C. Nair, 1977
1. Campanula alsinoides Hook. F. & Thomson
2. Campanula argyrotricha Wall. ex A.DC.
3. Campanula cana Wall.
4. Campanula cashmeriana Royle
5. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall. and Campanula
ramulosa Wall.
6. Campanula latifolia L. (Shimla, Chamba, Kinnaur ans L&S)
7. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu (Shimla and Kinnaur)

FLORA OF SIRMAUR (Himachal Pradesh) by Harsimerjit Kaur & M. Sharma, 2004
1. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula benthamii
Wall. ex Kitam.
2. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall.

FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. Sharma, 2006
1. Campanula cana Wall.
2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula benthamii
Wall. ex Kitam.
3. Campanula pallida Wall. Syn. Campanula colorata Wall.

FLORA OF CHAMBA DISTRICT (Himachal Pradesh) by Harinder Singh & M. Sharma, 2006
1. Campanula cashmeriana Royle
2. Campanula dimorphantha Schweinf. mentioned syn. Campanula benthamii
Wall. ex Kitam.
3. Campanula pallida Wall. mentioned as syn. Campanula colorata Wall.
4. Campanula wattiana B.K.Nayar & Babu


REGARDS






On 4/21/18, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Anil ji.
> After going through all the posts in efi, I find them very difficult to
> segregate. Keys in Flora of China
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395> are
> also very confusing and there is no doubt that both are very close.
> *It will not be a bad idea to follow Flora Simlensis for the time being.*
> May I request you to pl. post full botanical names with citations as
> mentioned in Flora Simlensis.
> I think Tabish ji will also agree for this.
>
> On 21 April 2018 at 08:40, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Garg ji
>> Even I have some doubts regarding it's identity.
>> Flora Simlensis mentioned Campanula pallida (as syn. C. colorata) and
>> included C. canescens and C. cana under this.
>>
>> Plants I clicked were only 15cm in height and procumbent and not erect as
>> for C. palida. There is another species- C. argyrotricha mentioned in
>> Flora
>> Simlensis but with bluish flowers .
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Fri 20 Apr, 2018, 12:32 PM J.M. Garg, <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think this may be Campanula pallida
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/campanulaceae/campanula/campanula-pallida>
>>> as
>>> per images and keys at Flora of China
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105395>
>>> (Hypanthium
>>> obconic or campanulate, hispid; calyx lobes deltoid, narrowly
>>> triangular,
>>> or subulate, 2-8 mm, abaxially hispid (sometimes only along veins),
>>> margin
>>> entire or rarely serrulate as per details at *C. pallida*
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242421018>)
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Anil Thakur <aniltha...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: 27 June 2016 at 23:32
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:245795] Campanula cana ATJUNE2016/25
>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Campanula cana
>>> Shimla
>>> March/April
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With best Regards,
>>>
>>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur
>>>
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>
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>
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> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
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Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 22, 2018, 8:33:04 AM4/22/18
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Garg ji

Last Flora is of KULLU and not CHAMBA
CAMPANULA.docx

Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 22, 2018, 8:34:53 AM4/22/18
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CAMPANULA.docx

J.M. Garg

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Apr 22, 2018, 8:35:28 AM4/22/18
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Thanks, Anil ji.
I will follow Flora simlensis in this matter after seeing details closely of all posts in efi, till some one comes up with clear differences between the two. 

Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 22, 2018, 8:39:05 AM4/22/18
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Sir

Sir Henry Collett had included both under Campanula colorata.

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Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 22, 2018, 9:00:55 AM4/22/18
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Key from FLORA OF CHAMBA

1. Annual; flowers sessile, 0.4-0.8 cm long; calyx-lobes 1-4 mm long
.................

2. Erect, leaves subacute, calyx-lobes 1.5- 4 mm long ..............C.
dimorphantha (mentioned as syn. C. benthamii )

2. Decumbent, leaves obtuse, calyx-lobes 1 mm long .................. C. cana

1. Perrenial; flowers pedicelled, 0.7-1.3 cm long; calyx-lobes 4.5-8
mm long ...............................................................................................
C. pallida


Calyx-lobes in my samples are 7-8 mm long thus pointing towards
Campanula pallida. Flower colour in C. pallida is mentioned as
blur-purple adding to the confusion. Secondly, plants were small
hardly 15 cm and ascending and not erect as reported for C. pallida.

I believe now that my plant is C. pallida and not C. cana where
flowers are sessile, calyx-lobes 1 mm long, corolla 6-8 mm long and
leaves hardy 1 cm in length.


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J.M. Garg

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Apr 22, 2018, 9:42:54 AM4/22/18
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Thanks, Anil ji,
If we follow this key, all our posted plants are of Campanula pallida. 

Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 22, 2018, 9:56:09 AM4/22/18
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Yes, Garg ji

Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 22, 2018, 10:26:27 AM4/22/18
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Then all my posts are C. pallida !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Yes, Garg ji

J.M. Garg

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Apr 22, 2018, 11:03:50 AM4/22/18
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We should take all our posts as pallida, until somebody can prove that both are different in view of wide ranging confusions in different floras. 


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Yes, Garg ji

Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 22, 2018, 11:08:32 AM4/22/18
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Yes, Garg ji
Sir Henry Collett in Flora Simlensis considered C. cana and C. pallida as same and had put them under C. colorata.
It means, even he was not able to differentiate between them.

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Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 22, 2018, 11:10:00 AM4/22/18
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Should I go through Campanula species at efloraofindia??

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 22, 2018, 11:40:39 AM4/22/18
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Yes, you should and point out the corrections needed. 

Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 23, 2018, 1:40:47 AM4/23/18
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Garg Ji
Adding descriptions from FLORA OF CHAMBA
1.jpg
2.jpg

Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

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Apr 23, 2018, 1:48:39 AM4/23/18
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 23, 2018, 1:52:01 AM4/23/18
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Thanks, Anil ji

Tabish

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Apr 23, 2018, 10:46:59 AM4/23/18
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Thanks Anil ji, for such detailed feedback!
   Best wishes
   Tabish
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Apr 23, 2018, 1:08:37 PM4/23/18
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Thank you, Garg ji and Dr. Tabish ji

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