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Before going online with changes of the must important part of the inat interface it would be useful to ask the inat community users what they think about. The active users in this google group represent only a tiny part of the inat community.
That's what we're doing right now. These changes are *not* live, they're only on a testing server for you to test before they go live. We actually make a pretty concerted effort to check in with you guys before making major changes like this (and by major I mean changes that involve a loss or change in functionality vs strictly visual changes), so I'm not sure where this complaint is coming from.
-ken-ichi
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Kent McFarland
Vermont Center for Ecostudies
PO Box 420 | Norwich, Vermont 05055
802.649.1431 x2
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The combine function assemble more photos under one species. This function could be more flexible.
1. Combine more media types to one species (photos, sounds, documents,..)
2. Combine many species observations to one location. The combine menu entry could be a selectbox > to one species, > to one location. This could be very useful.
Furthermore, to possibility to write comments for each photo is something I miss.
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This works fine for me. If you can provide specifics that might help
debug it, e.g. the actual photo you're uploading, the keyword you're
expecting to get converted to an identification, and what you're
actually seeing.
> I typed the species name into the box with the green box around it and the
> species name disappeared and went blank again. So I did it in the other box
> and the same thing happened. I assume this is a bug. Is the names lookup
> down on gorilla? [It did the same thing later when I edited the observation
> after I submitted it so I expect this is the case.]
Again, specifics would help because it works for me. What name are you
typing in? What browser are you using? What else is going on with the
photo? Are there other photos?
> How would I add a single observation without a photo or audio recording?
Click the "Add" button and choose "Observation without photo"
> I see that the keywords in my photos get automatically added as tags. How do
> I remove some of those or add new ones?
Working on it.
> And, please, let us add fields at the start
Considering it, just a tricky extra bit of UI.
> Will the new system capture field info automatically from the EXIF/IPTC of
> the photos like the current photo upload tool does?
It does, give it a try.
> I also agree with others that we need to announce this change more widely
> before it takes effect. It's a big change and even change for the better
> takes a while to get used to.
We will, when we're ready for it to replace the add obs form. Just not
there yet, clearly. I hope most of you will agree this is a marked
improvement over the old drag-and-drop uploader, since it does
everything that did and a lot more.
Todd Plummer
Kent McFarland
Vermont Center for Ecostudies
PO Box 420 | Norwich, Vermont 05055
802.649.1431 x2
how does the Soundcloud upload work now that Soundcloud no longer allows you to record sounds? i have this discssed here before, but never found a great solution that didnt involve at least 3 apps to upload a sound file.
Todd Plummer
Kent McFarland
Vermont Center for Ecostudies
PO Box 420 | Norwich, Vermont 05055
802.649.1431 x2
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Kent McFarland
Vermont Center for Ecostudies
PO Box 420 | Norwich, Vermont 05055
802.649.1431 x2
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OK, this old dog is trying to learn the new tricks and doing OK, surprisingly. I note that @kueda has said that working on the display order of images is "on the radar" so I'll just add I would welcome that as I often will post a certain image 1st which shows the main ID characters, then I add 2nd or 3rd images to illustrate specific points. Thanks, but I do like being able to load a bunch of images at once.
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Hey folks,
Here's something for you to play with over the weekend:
http://gorilla.inaturalist.org/observations/uploader
Username: preview
Password: 313phant
The slightly longer story: adding observations to iNat is... a mess.
The add obs form has always been one of the most frustrating parts of
the site for a lot of people, so frustrating that these days we
usually just tell people to use the app if they can. Way too much data
entry, especially when most of that information is increasingly
embedded in the photo that you're going to upload anyway. So we redid
it based largely on Flickr's version of the same, which we think is
pretty rad, and the result is what I linked above. We'd love your
feedback, keeping in mind these particulars:
1) We really want this to replace not just
http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/upload but also
http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/new, so please let us know if
anything *critical* to your workflow is missing. A lot of things are,
but most can still be added from the observation detail page and the
observation edit page. We're not promising to keep *all* the
functionality from http://www.inaturalist.org/observations/new, since
that page does a lot of niche, weird stuff that only a handful of
people use, but we would like to know who's using what.
2) This is just a test server, nothing you do on gorilla will get
saved to the main site
3) We are planning to add some more batch editing tools, like adding
to projects, but maybe not for the first release.
Many thanks to Joelle and Patrick for doing most of the work on this.
I'm pretty excited to get it out there. For the techies, we're using
Redux, React, and ES6 for the first time, and it's working out pretty
well for us, even though we've kind of bolted them on to the front of
our old-but-sturdy Rails-based ship.
-ken-ichi