First Congressional Killing Since Jonestown
Sanders Kaufman
congress.
The first one was killed by anti-government Evangelical Christians prior to
the Jonestown massacre.
In that case, the Evangelicals wanted to create a Christian paradise in the
jungles of South America.
They went THAT far away because they believed their leaders who told them
that the United States government was out to get them.
When family members expressed concern, their congressman flew down to Guyana
to interview the members.
During the interviews, several members of the church told him they were
being held captive and begged him to take them with him.
As he was preparing to board his flight, Evangelicals with guns showed up
and murdered him, a member of the "lamestream" media and, of course, most of
the people who were being rescued.
Back at the church, the preacher told his congregation that they had to all
kill themselves.
Most did, the rest were murdered by church officials.
The second congressman was killed yesterday by Republicans in another
mass-murder shooting spree.
bbhack
All current indications are that the perp is a seriously mentally ill
leftist, redundant as that may be.
celtex
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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Al
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> Only two congressmen have been murdered on-the-job while serving in
> congress.
> The first one was killed by anti-government Evangelical Christians prior to
> the Jonestown massacre.
Jim Jones was a member of the Communist Party USA, and Jonestown was to
be his "Socialist Eden".
> In that case, the Evangelicals wanted to create a Christian paradise in the
> jungles of South America.
No, his intent was a socialist paradise, a collective. Kind of like a
far-left hippie commune.
> They went THAT far away because they believed their leaders who told them
> that the United States government was out to get them.
He was disgusted with the McCarthy hearings, and the marginalization of
communists in the US.
Basically, moron, you'd describe "God Damn America" Rev Wright as a
hard-core republican.
And to think they allow you near schoolchildren.
Bluesfan2U
Libertarian. Loughner displays libertarian leanings.
BobR
Poor Sanders, can't get even one single fact straight before posting
you lies.
Please try to at least get something right if nothing more than the
fact that the Congresswoman was NOT KILLED.
bbhack
Mein Kamph and Communist Manifesto are not on the fave shelf of most
libertarians.
Pepe Le Jew
Bluesfan2U <blues...@fun.ogr> wrote:
łAs I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with
the 2012 prophecy,˛ the former classmate, Caitie Parker, wrote in a
series of Twitter feeds Saturday. łI havenąt seen him since ą07 though.
He became very reclusive.˛
Pepe Le Jew
<1a887c19-1076-417d...@l24g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
BobR <re...@r-a-reed-assoc.com> wrote:
Perhaps, in his world, she was.
Anyone can see through his writings that he has a tenuous grasp on
reality. He's quite open about it.
BobR
No but they have become the working documents for most leftist
liberals.
Pepe Le Jew
<f2ad6261-6a8f-40b1...@s5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
BobR <re...@r-a-reed-assoc.com> wrote:
Not that they're aware of it.
Bluesfan2U
I've read the New Testament ... Does that make me a Christian?
What makes him a libertarian leaning madman are his opinions that the
government is bad, and that only gold or silver (not government backed
currency) is viable. All that is missing is the black helicopters.
Bluesfan2U
Four years in a young man's life, especially an unstable one, is a long
time. Besides, the author of those comments has yet to display that they
know the difference between left and right. Apparently some folks on
Usenet have that problem too.
Pepe Le Jew
Bluesfan2U <blues...@fun.ogr> wrote:
> bbhack wrote:
.
> > Mein Kamph and Communist Manifesto are not on the fave shelf of most
> > libertarians.
>
>
> I've read the New Testament ... Does that make me a Christian?
It would if you did something bad.
> What makes him a libertarian leaning madman are his opinions that the
> government is bad,
A very popular, patriotic position, during the Bush years.
> and that only gold or silver (not government backed
> currency) is viable. All that is missing is the black helicopters.
What's missing is any reference by him to any conservative politician or
public figure. No books by Beck, Bush, Palin... no mention of them.
What isn't missing is the rapid assurances from the left that they've
found the real perpetrator, and it's Sarah Palin. Again.
Like our President, they are perfectly wiling to present conjecture as
fact, for political gain and fundraising.
Pepe Le Jew
Bluesfan2U <blues...@fun.ogr> wrote:
A lot of people are blaming Sarah Palin. That seems a bit revealing.
Bluesfan2U
> In article <DOSdnfrsEKoYyrfQ...@giganews.com>,
> Bluesfan2U <blues...@fun.ogr> wrote:
>
>> bbhack wrote:
> .
>
>>> Mein Kamph and Communist Manifesto are not on the fave shelf of most
>>> libertarians.
>>
>> I've read the New Testament ... Does that make me a Christian?
>
>
> It would if you did something bad.
You have to be bad to be a Christian? Really?
>
>
>> What makes him a libertarian leaning madman are his opinions that the
>> government is bad,
>
> A very popular, patriotic position, during the Bush years.
Not patriotic.
>
>
>> and that only gold or silver (not government backed
>> currency) is viable. All that is missing is the black helicopters.
>
> What's missing is any reference by him to any conservative politician or
> public figure. No books by Beck, Bush, Palin... no mention of them.
He lives. We will have time to find out for sure.
>
> What isn't missing is the rapid assurances from the left that they've
> found the real perpetrator, and it's Sarah Palin. Again.
She contributed. So did Mike Savage, and the others.
>
> Like our President, they are perfectly wiling to present conjecture as
> fact, for political gain and fundraising.
You lie ... Oh, wait a minute. that's a right linger thing to yell.
Bluesfan2U
You hold her, and her rhetoric as well as the vitriol spewed by others
in right wing media harmless? Really? You really believe that their hard
tones and calls for "targeting and "reloading" and "eliminating"
moderates and left wingers to be a total waste of time.
Really?
BobR
> Pepe Le Jew wrote:
> > Bluesfan2U <bluesfa...@fun.ogr> wrote:
>
> >> Pepe Le Jew wrote:
> >>> the 2012 prophecy, the former classmate, Caitie Parker, wrote in a
> >>> He became very reclusive.
>
> >> Four years in a young man's life, especially an unstable one, is a long
> >> time. Besides, the author of those comments has yet to display that they
> >> know the difference between left and right. Apparently some folks on
> >> Usenet have that problem too.
>
> > A lot of people are blaming Sarah Palin. That seems a bit revealing.
>
> You hold her, and her rhetoric as well as the vitriol spewed by others
> in right wing media harmless? Really? You really believe that their hard
> tones and calls for "targeting and "reloading" and "eliminating"
> moderates and left wingers to be a total waste of time.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
And you are proving to be as big a nut case as the shooter and
Sanders.
bbhack
Not just, but a pathetic bedwetter with no facts at hand. Oooh ,
Michael Savage, oooh. May be a bot. There were better bots 15 years or
more ago.
Sanders Kaufman
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> Jim Jones was a member of the Communist Party USA, and Jonestown was to
> be his "Socialist Eden".
That's what the marketing brochures said.
But the reality was far more Republican than that.
Pepe Le Jew
Bluesfan2U <blues...@fun.ogr> wrote:
> Pepe Le Jew wrote:
> > In article <DOSdnfrsEKoYyrfQ...@giganews.com>,
> > Bluesfan2U <blues...@fun.ogr> wrote:
> >
> >> bbhack wrote:
> > .
> >
> >>> Mein Kamph and Communist Manifesto are not on the fave shelf of most
> >>> libertarians.
> >>
> >> I've read the New Testament ... Does that make me a Christian?
> >
> >
> > It would if you did something bad.
>
> You have to be bad to be a Christian? Really?
No, but if you did something bad and confessed you had read the entire
New Testament, you'd be first and foremost, a devout Christian in the
news reports. Likely a Palinite.
> >> What makes him a libertarian leaning madman are his opinions that the
> >> government is bad,
> >
> > A very popular, patriotic position, during the Bush years.
>
> Not patriotic.
That's not what the left said at the time.
> >
> >> and that only gold or silver (not government backed
> >> currency) is viable. All that is missing is the black helicopters.
> >
> > What's missing is any reference by him to any conservative politician or
> > public figure. No books by Beck, Bush, Palin... no mention of them.
>
> He lives. We will have time to find out for sure.
Ah, so you're hoping against hope that somewhere there's some sort of
actual connection between this nut and Palin, or Beck, or some other
leftist boogeyboo. The people Napolatino warned you about.
It's not looking good so far, have you got a backup hope? Maybe they'll
find a newspaper with an ad for Fox news or something equally damning in
his room.
> > What isn't missing is the rapid assurances from the left that they've
> > found the real perpetrator, and it's Sarah Palin. Again.
>
> She contributed. So did Mike Savage, and the others.
Oh, now we're bringing in another person with absolutely no known
connection. It's getting even deeper. I wonder if he was a Beatles fan?
> >
> > Like our President, they are perfey6ctly wiling to present conjecture as
> > fact, for political gain and fundraising.
>
> You lie ... Oh, wait a minute. that's a right linger thing to yell.
You do realize the President has, for instance, accused the Cambridge
Police without any factual basis, and accused the chamber of commerce
based on the baseless claim of a blogger, aren't you?
These are just two examples which directly support my contention, and
the response is to call me a liar. Where I come from, we'd say you done
run yourself up a stump, how's the view?
Pepe Le Jew
Bluesfan2U <blues...@fun.ogr> wrote:
In the context of elections, I'd say they're quite dangerous to
socialist democrats.
In the context of The Armies of pale Idahoans marching to terrorize
hapless tanned liberals, I'd say the threat is statistically not a
concern. Of course, the body count has been kept so low through the
valiant efforts of the DoJ, who identified the threat early on.
> Really? You really believe that their hard
> tones and calls for "targeting and "reloading" and "eliminating"
> moderates and left wingers to be a total waste of time.
>
> Really?
There is on the net the record of the Bush years, in words and images.
That is very hard to overlook when one is lectured on political civility
by a leftist.
But, given that a scant percentage of this country self-identify as
idiots, with the rest being conservative or right-leaning, one expects
to find wild-eyed crazy people, this is America, we encourage that
stuff. We pay people to entertain.
Likely not you though.
Pepe Le Jew
<1337ea69-8bf6-4f31...@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
bbhack <bbh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, the introduction of yet another co-conspirator is a flash of
brilliance, I'd not seen him implicated before this, it's a bit of a
game-changer. Alert the blogs.
I wouldn't be surprised if this goes straight to the top - Karl Rove -
in easily three degrees of separation. Bush will protected, as usual,
but history will Judge him, and what he drove Rush Limbaugh to tell
Palin what, and who, to do.
The only real question remaining is how much did the US Chamber of
Commerce pay this guy?
Al
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> "Al" <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:albert.finney000-58...@news.giganews.com...
>
> > Jim Jones was a member of the Communist Party USA, and Jonestown was to
> > be his "Socialist Eden".
>
> That's what the marketing brochures said.
That's what history says. But you're apparently going to use his own
words to prove he was not as he, and history, claim. This should be
interesting.
> But the reality was far more Republican than that.
Based of course on the absentee ballots from that mosquito-infested
holdout of utopian religious leftists, no doubt you counted them.
Or maybe you didn't notice that the major difference between Jim Jones
and your average Oak Cliff church was the extreme leftism? Hello?
Bluesfan2U
Moderate ones too, if Rep. Gabby Giffords is the test.
Sanders Kaufman
> Or maybe you didn't notice that the major difference between Jim Jones
> and your average Oak Cliff church was the extreme leftism? Hello?
Oh, I see - you're one of the Republicans who hates black people.
Pepe Le Jew
Bluesfan2U <blues...@fun.ogr> wrote:
You're adopting the false narrative that the shooter was politically
motivated, from the right.
Giffords was "targeted" by the democrat left, graphically and verbally
during the time that the shooter was forming his psychopathic negative
feelings, it wasn't Palin sending this nutjob telepathic messages via
obscure electoral graphics, it was the LEFT. Check your facts.
This is not the man the left has been waiting for, he's not one of the
massing right-wing militia tewwowists, he's a crazy person.
And within hours, other crazy people, like the editorial board of
America's premier newspaper, the Paramus Weekly Shopper, projected this
fantasy on to this crazy person, and the issue now is... Sarah Palin.
It causes me to reconsider Hinckley, Moore, Chapman and others who were
dismissed as crazy, they MAY have been similarly driven by Republican
campaign graphics.
HeyBub
Are you as sure about that as you were about Jared Lee Loughner's voter
registration?
Bluesfan2U
How is that false? Did he want to impress Jodie Foster too?
rial landreth
>>>>>>>> ³As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed
>>>>>>>> with the 2012 prophecy,² the former classmate, Caitie Parker,
>>>>>>>> wrote in a series of Twitter feeds Saturday. ³I haven¹t seen him
>>>>>>>> since ¹07 though. He became very reclusive.²
>>>>>>> Four years in a young man's life, especially an unstable one, is a
>>>>>>> long time. Besides, the author of those comments has yet to
>>>>>>> display that they know the difference between left and right.
>>>>>>> Apparently some folks on Usenet have that problem too.
>>>>>> A lot of people are blaming Sarah Palin. That seems a bit revealing.
>>>>> You hold her, and her rhetoric as well as the vitriol spewed by
>>>>> others in right wing media harmless?
>>>> In the context of elections, I'd say they're quite dangerous to
>>>> socialist democrats.
>>>
>>> Moderate ones too, if Rep. Gabby Giffords is the test.
>> You're adopting the false narrative that the shooter was politically
>> motivated, from the right.
>
> How is that false? Did he want to impress Jodie Foster too?
He had scrambled beliefs, that is how.
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Al
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
Only the ones that drive Chevrolets.
Pepe Le Jew
Bluesfan2U <blues...@fun.ogr> wrote:
> Pepe Le Jew wrote:
You're full of questions, yet you don't seem to know anything, this is
the sort of thing gets people fired.