Church Not Taking Devil Seriously, Exorcist Warns
SunDancingGuy
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in contemporary society. Like all holdovers from the medieval-era Church,
this practice is fundamentally abusive and should be legally banned, once
and for all.
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Strings
PROOF not hear say, visions, hallucinations, provable facts only.
Example fact against:
The bible has the Sun going around the Earth,
FACT is it does not.
Example facts for religion: ?? (none to my knowledge)
Note: Proof is not to include hear say, mind controlled events,
hallucinations, cover up stories by children, direct Bible dogma, fake
miracles ( fake miracles are sight loss returned, wheelchair patient gets up
and walks, cancer remissions and things that could happen on their own.)
Will except miracles that include:
Growing a new eyeballs in empty sockets, a person without legs grow some, I
priest who admits he is a pervert before being caught. Someone jumping out
of a 50-story building squished dead all bones broken then after total brain
splat comes back to life.
There is a mountain of evidence and common sense against religion BUT not
one fact of proof in favour.
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Funny, my thought was that they take God too seriously. Look at the
platypus, people! He / She has a sense of homour if he is in fact up there.
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Therefore I am!
What more proof do you need?
How about this - prove you are not just an extension of my mind.
What is the value of a zero divide?
I mean we d know why the sky is blue.
Yes, the sun used to revolve around the earth - that was back in the days
when the earth was flat.
You had to be crazy to beleive otherwise. Certainly the proof was to the
contrary.
But knowledge changes the truth and the truth estabishes fact.
My point. What makes you so confident that we have attained enough knowledge
to understand the world, the universe in which we seem to exist. Could you
concede that you make be a flat world thinker?
Religion and Theology are not always the same thing. Theology becomes more a
form of Philosophy, religion is just ritualization.
In a theological sense, ritualized religion is worshiping the golden calf.
There has been some interesting scientific studies recently that suggest
that the brain is an interface with electrical energy.
The brain is sensative and responds to electrical energy. The way in which
it responds is with chemical reactions, and those chemical reactions have
phsilogical effects. A rule of physics says that energy is neither created
nor destroyed, it merely changes state.
Now, we still lack knowledge, as we don't really know the source of this
electrical energy. Is it self generated, or is it external.
It could be either. We do know that the significant difference between a
living person and a dead person is the presence or absence of electrical
energy. But a fact has been established. The brain is an organic interface.
It interfaces with electricity. and responds chemically.
This was proven by the great Canadain brain surgeon, Dr Penfield. He could
stick an electroid in your brain, and depending where trigger brain
responses. That is external. So is the electricity internal converting food
to electricity, or does the electricity come from an external source? We
don't know.
If it is just electricty, then we should be able to power a dead brain and
have the person resurrected, to the extent that they just died, and are not
decayed yet, and say didn't have a major organ failure or anything. And if
that electricity source is internal, you should get the same person. But if
you get a zombie, that would suggest that the electricity is external. And
the personality, the intelligence, the awareness is the electricity. Energy.
This would go a long way into scientifically establishing that there is a
soul.
Energy is immortal, and energy is everything and everywhere. Matter is
energy. There is scientific support, while proof is still elusive.
But that proof is directly related to our lack of knowledge. There is enough
scientific data to suggest a likelyhood of God.
There is no real evidence that disproves the existence of God or the soul.
And there is enough data to keep applying the scientific method to the
question. We just may discover that the world is not flat after all.
The best thing is to keep an open questioning mind. And one day we will know
the answers. This is what people do. Figure shit out. But they also make
shit up. Sometimes the lines get blurred. But we, like God, can imagine
something, and then after a lot of work, make it so! I mean how many times
have you heard the expression, If man were meant to fly then he'd have
wings". We fly, and we don't have wings. And what is a few thousand years of
trying, when one day you do it?
Nothing is beyond us, just some things take time. More time than any one
person has, but perhaps not a soul?
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"Strings" <blabn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Show us one scrap of proof your religion is real,
> PROOF not hear say, visions, hallucinations, provable facts only.
> Example fact against:
> The bible has the Sun going around the Earth,
> FACT is it does not.
So the sun DOES NOT go around the Earth... hey, thanks for clarifying
that. That stupid bible almost had me going. But really, thank you
kindly for letting the rest of us now. Much appreciated.
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> In article <BLAzc.5523$vO1....@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
> "Strings" <blabn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Show us one scrap of proof your religion is real,
> > PROOF not hear say, visions, hallucinations, provable facts only.
> > Example fact against:
> > The bible has the Sun going around the Earth,
> > FACT is it does not.
>
> So the sun DOES NOT go around the Earth... hey, thanks for clarifying
> that. That stupid bible almost had me going. But really, thank you
> kindly for letting the rest of us now. Much appreciated.
>
kmasb
ZOLOFT
kmasb wrote:
> The bible is a historical record of faith, not of fact.
>
>
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Strings
Adam and Eve have two sons where do they get wives,
The entire earth's population came from the same two people a genetic
nightmare
Hundreds of races evolved from these same two people in 6000 years
impossible.
A man got two of every animal in the world together in one boat. Impossible
they would never fit and with the transportation system of the time it would
take thousands of people thousands of years to just to collect two of
everything they would just now be finishing this would be the biggest make
work project ever.
Fairy tales all.
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their soul to believing them 100% real and not thinking how ridicules they
are..
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wrote:
> Where in the bible does it claim the sun revolves around the earth? Show us!
Hey, you're asking the wrong guy - it was String that made that claim
(and was quick to clarify that indeed the Sun DOES NOT revolve around
the Earth)
Strings
and I cannot spend all that time for nothing reading fairy tales. Please
fell free to do so yourself.
But needless to say its all dogma.
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Strings
the holy church of child molesting.
Eat Dirt
wrote:
> The bible is a historical record of faith, not of fact.
>
>
Which does not help its cause in this age of educated people. Perhaps
back in the days where people were burnt alive for believing the Earth
wasn't flat the bible held its weight. Nowadays it serves as material
for jokes. It's no wonder stand up comedians love the bible so much.
Presto
> It would take too much of my valued time re-read to find the exact passage
> and I cannot spend all that time for nothing reading fairy tales. Please
> fell free to do so yourself.
> But needless to say its all dogma.
Dogma.... good movie. Especially the whole bit concerning beliefs vs.
ideas. I think Kevin Smith was really onto something there.
Unexploded
(SunDancingGuy) wrote:
>...funny....Satan says the same thing.
Dude, those voices in your head aren't Satan.
Arny
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> In article <%LEzc.763058$Ig.86484@pd7tw2no>, "Arny" <A...@ary.arny>
> wrote:
>
> > Where in the bible does it claim the sun revolves around the earth? Show
us!
>
> Hey, you're asking the wrong guy - it was String that made that claim
> (and was quick to clarify that indeed the Sun DOES NOT revolve around
> the Earth)
>
the revised fag bible?
Strings
Good to see you have come to common sense remember keep you common sense and
think free dont fall back to believing in fairy tales.
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Unexploded
Oh, right. Like they'd give him access to internal church documents.
Strings
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Robert Weldon
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Just like nobody takes you seriously, mr. laughingstock of the internet.
SunDance
...yup, and he also praised you as his most ardent believer who
doesn't believe anything.
Robert Weldon
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Good logic, if I don't believe anything, how the fuck do I believe in him??
Strings
you should also shake when you hear the threat of God allowing you to be
tortured for not listening to the Catholic Church which claim to be his only
earthly religion.
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> I exist.
> Therefore I am!
> What more proof do you need?
>
> How about this - prove you are not just an extension of my mind.
> What is the value of a zero divide?
>
> I mean we d know why the sky is blue.
>
> Yes, the sun used to revolve around the earth - that was back in the days
> when the earth was flat.
> You had to be crazy to beleive otherwise. Certainly the proof was to the
> contrary.
>
> But knowledge changes the truth and the truth estabishes fact.
>
> My point. What makes you so confident that we have attained enough knowledge
> to understand the world, the universe in which we seem to exist. Could you
> concede that you make be a flat world thinker?
>
> Religion and Theology are not always the same thing. Theology becomes more a
> form of Philosophy, religion is just ritualization.
> In a theological sense, ritualized religion is worshiping the golden calf.
>
> There has been some interesting scientific studies recently that suggest
> that the brain is an interface with electrical energy.
> The brain is sensative and responds to electrical energy. The way in which
> it responds is with chemical reactions, and those chemical reactions have
> phsilogical effects. A rule of physics says that energy is neither created
> nor destroyed, it merely changes state.
>
> Now, we still lack knowledge, as we don't really know the source of this
> electrical energy. Is it self generated, or is it external.
> It could be either. We do know that the significant difference between a
> living person and a dead person is the presence or absence of electrical
> energy. But a fact has been established. The brain is an organic interface.
> It interfaces with electricity. and responds chemically.
>
> This was proven by the great Canadain brain surgeon, Dr Penfield. He could
> stick an electroid in your brain, and depending where trigger brain
> responses. That is external. So is the electricity internal converting food
> to electricity, or does the electricity come from an external source? We
> don't know.
>
> If it is just electricty, then we should be able to power a dead brain and
> have the person resurrected, to the extent that they just died, and are not
> decayed yet, and say didn't have a major organ failure or anything. And if
> that electricity source is internal, you should get the same person. But if
> you get a zombie, that would suggest that the electricity is external. And
> the personality, the intelligence, the awareness is the electricity. Energy.
> This would go a long way into scientifically establishing that there is a
> soul.
> Energy is immortal, and energy is everything and everywhere. Matter is
> energy. There is scientific support, while proof is still elusive.
>
> But that proof is directly related to our lack of knowledge. There is enough
> scientific data to suggest a likelyhood of God.
> There is no real evidence that disproves the existence of God or the soul.
> And there is enough data to keep applying the scientific method to the
> question. We just may discover that the world is not flat after all.
>
> The best thing is to keep an open questioning mind. And one day we will know
> the answers. This is what people do. Figure shit out. But they also make
> shit up. Sometimes the lines get blurred. But we, like God, can imagine
> something, and then after a lot of work, make it so! I mean how many times
> have you heard the expression, If man were meant to fly then he'd have
> wings". We fly, and we don't have wings. And what is a few thousand years of
> trying, when one day you do it?
>
> Nothing is beyond us, just some things take time. More time than any one
> person has, but perhaps not a soul?
>
>
Good post! This is the most sensible and rational reply to one of
Lauzon's one-sided "thought-provokers" that I've seen in a while.
SunDance
...they're few and far between.
Clemens Gehrmann
get to have the virgins already in THIS life. Who wouldn't want to be King
David who, when he got old and couldn't keep his 'heat' anymore, got to make
out with a hundred virgins to keep him warm. Haha.
(I wonder if they rotated them out after they weren't "virgin" anymore
though... But then again, they didn't have viagra at that time, so maybe
they stayed virgins because of that.)
:-)
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> In article <%LEzc.763058$Ig.86484@pd7tw2no>, "Arny" <A...@ary.arny>
> wrote:
>
> > Where in the bible does it claim the sun revolves around the earth? Show
us!
>
> Hey, you're asking the wrong guy - it was String that made that claim
> (and was quick to clarify that indeed the Sun DOES NOT revolve around
> the Earth)
Well, Joshua made THE SUN stand still. Joshua 10:12-13
And again, the SUN went back 10 degrees. 2 Kings 20:9-11
For someone who is supposedly both the author of the book as well as maker
of the universe, the god of the Bible is woefully ignorant of his own
creation.
I hope you're not a professing Christian. It's a bad sign when an atheist
knows the Bible better than one who claims to believe in it.
Clemens Gehrmann
> Bible is full of that bull stuff.
> Adam and Eve have two sons where do they get wives,
Nobody claimed it had to make sense. I guess Adam & Eve had (unmentioned)
daughters, with whom their sons then had incestuous relationships. The
result: Christians.
> The entire earth's population came from the same two people a genetic
> nightmare
Not once, but another nightmare after "The Flood".
> Hundreds of races evolved from these same two people in 6000 years
> impossible.
Oh really? Ask god! :-P
> A man got two of every animal in the world together in one boat.
...and thousands of mosquitoes for the Swallows to eat.
> Fairy tales all.
Amen!
His Divine Shadow
> Church Not Taking Devil Seriously
That's because the Devil is an imaginary deity of Christian mythology. You
might as well say that the Church is not taking Klingons seriously.
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His Shadow
I'm not even going near the discussion of possible subconscious influences
of the primary symbol of one's religion being the nearly-naked figure of an
attractive, "buff" young man in exquisite agony.
Sheila, Maryland USA
His Divine Shadow
> There has been some interesting scientific studies recently that suggest
> that the brain is an interface with electrical energy.
What? The brain is a collection of cells that interpret electrochemical
signatures transmitted along the nervous system.
> The brain is sensative and responds to electrical energy. The way in which
> it responds is with chemical reactions, and those chemical reactions have
> phsilogical effects. A rule of physics says that energy is neither created
> nor destroyed, it merely changes state.
>
> Now, we still lack knowledge, as we don't really know the source of this
> electrical energy. Is it self generated, or is it external.
> It could be either. We do know that the significant difference between a
> living person and a dead person is the presence or absence of electrical
> energy. But a fact has been established. The brain is an organic interface.
> It interfaces with electricity. and responds chemically.
>
> This was proven by the great Canadain brain surgeon, Dr Penfield. He could
> stick an electroid in your brain, and depending where trigger brain
> responses. That is external. So is the electricity internal converting food
> to electricity, or does the electricity come from an external source? We
> don't know.
Your interpretation of current research is gibberish. The brains signals are
electrochemical in nature, purely a result of chemical reactions. This is
exceptionally well understood. There is no external source required for the
"electrical" signals of the brain.
> But that proof is directly related to our lack of knowledge. There is enough
> scientific data to suggest a likelyhood of God.
There is no scientific evidence that suggests the existence of a god of any
stripe.
> There is no real evidence that disproves the existence of God or the soul.
There is no requirement to disprove that which cannot be shown to exist.
> And there is enough data to keep applying the scientific method to the
> question. We just may discover that the world is not flat after all.
The Earth never was flat, regardless of what was once believed.
> The best thing is to keep an open questioning mind. And one day we will know
> the answers. This is what people do. Figure shit out. But they also make
> shit up. Sometimes the lines get blurred. But we, like God, can imagine
> something, and then after a lot of work, make it so!
Like gods, which we made to explain things we didn't understand. The more we
understand, the less importance gods play in those explanations.
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His Shadow
"In the beginning the universe was created... This made a lot of people
angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."
Douglas Adams
His Divine Shadow
> ...funny....Satan says the same thing.
Now you are talking to Satan, dumbass?
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His Shadow
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lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the
fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into
it in the first place."
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His Divine Shadow
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>> In article <BLAzc.5523$vO1....@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
>> "Strings" <blabn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Show us one scrap of proof your religion is real,
>>> PROOF not hear say, visions, hallucinations, provable facts only.
>>> Example fact against:
>>> The bible has the Sun going around the Earth,
>>> FACT is it does not.
>>
>> So the sun DOES NOT go around the Earth... hey, thanks for clarifying
>> that. That stupid bible almost had me going. But really, thank you
>> kindly for letting the rest of us now. Much appreciated.
>>
> Where in the bible does it claim the sun revolves around the earth? Show us!
I love this stuff. You idiots always cut your own throats, with no help from
anyone else.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cosmo_bibl2.htm
Joshua 10:12-13: "Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD
delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the
sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the
valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the
people had avenged themselves upon their enemies...." Here, the sun was
believed to have stopped moving. This speaks again of a stationary earth and
moving sun.
1 Chronicles 16:30: "...the world also shall be stable, that it be not
moved." This is one of many passages in the Bible which describe the earth
as firm, stable and immovable.
Job 28:23-24: "God understandeth the way thereof, and he knoweth the place
thereof. For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole
heaven." The earth is viewed as having ends, unlike a sphere which has no
end and no beginning.
Psalms: The Psalms contain numerous references to:
God being in heaven.
Heaven being directly above the earth.
God seeing people below him, and hearing their prayers.
The earth being fixed, stable and immovable.
Some examples:
Psalms 14:2: "The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to
see if there were any that did understand, and seek God."
Psalms 19:1-6: "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament
sheweth his handywork...Their line is gone out through all the earth, and
their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for
the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth
as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the
heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from
the heat thereof." This passage refers to a housing of some type in which
the sun rests during the night time. It emerges in the morning and passes
each day overhead to the other end of the firmament, heating the entire
world. The author is here referring again to the sun moving over a flat
earth.
Psalms 20:6: "Now know I that the LORD saveth his anointed; he will hear him
from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand."
Psalms 33:13-14: "The LORD looketh from heaven; he beholdeth all the sons of
men. From the place of his habitation he looketh upon all the inhabitants of
the earth."
Psalms 53:2: "God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see
if there were any that did understand, that did seek God."
Psalms 78:23-24: "Though he had commanded the clouds from above, and opened
the doors of heaven, And had rained down manna upon them to eat, and had
given them of the corn of heaven."
Psalms 80:14: "Return, we beseech thee, O God of hosts: look down from
heaven, and behold, and visit this vine."
Psalms 85:11: "Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall
look down from heaven."
Psalms 93:1: "...the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."
Psalms 96:10: "...the world also shall be established that it shall not be
moved..."
Psalms 102:19: "For he hath looked down from the height of his sanctuary;
from heaven did the LORD behold the earth."
Psalms 103:11: "For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his
mercy toward them that fear him."
Psalms 104:1-2: "Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very
great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who coverest thyself with
light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain."
Here, the solid vault above the earth is likened to a curtain.
Psalms 104:5: "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be
removed for ever." This implied that the earth is permanently fixed in
place, does not move, and is positioned on top of foundations.
Psalms 104:13: "He watereth the hills from his chambers...". Water in the
form of rain is seen as being poured from heaven to earth through floodgates
in the firmament.
Psalms 139:8: "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed
in hell, behold, thou art there." Heaven is upwards from earth; Hell
(actually a mistranslation of the Hebrew place name Sheol) is downwards from
earth.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/cosmo_bibl2.htm
In Other Words, read your fucking Bible already.
--
VVV
His Shadow
(T)hat's one of the distinguishing features of pseudoscience: no matter how
many times you drive a stake through its heart, it keeps rising from the
grave, zombie-like, to walk among us one more time.
Dave Palmer
"KATO"
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> The Power of Order Destroyed SunDancingGuy's Planet on 6/14/04 8:39 PM.
>
> > Church Not Taking Devil Seriously
>
> That's because the Devil is an imaginary deity of Christian mythology. You
> might as well say that the Church is not taking Klingons seriously.
lol!
Presto
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>
> > Church Not Taking Devil Seriously
>
> That's because the Devil is an imaginary deity of Christian mythology. You
> might as well say that the Church is not taking Klingons seriously.
But that's playing right into Lucifer's hands!
LOL, of all current dogma, the notion that if you don't believe in God then
Satan gains strengthhas to be my favorite. It isn't like faith is like a
glass of water that if it doesn't go into the God glass it goes into the
Satan glass. Buddhists don't really believe in any "God" per se, do they
strengthen Satan as well?
Presto - seriously considering giving Buddhism a go
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I wonder if the exorcist asked the Devil His opinion on the matter? If the
Devil isn't being taken seriously, shouldn't he be the one to speak up?
Talk about Sympathy for the Devil- some exorcist speaking as Devil's
Advocate.
They must be in Hell sipping tea awaiting the Cardinal's invitation to meet
the Pope....
catchmerevisited
blabn...@yahoo.com wrote on 6/15/04 10:30 AM:
> Bible is full of that bull stuff.
> Adam and Eve have two sons where do they get wives,
> The entire earth's population came from the same two people a genetic
> nightmare
> Hundreds of races evolved from these same two people in 6000 years
> impossible.
> A man got two of every animal in the world together in one boat. Impossible
> they would never fit and with the transportation system of the time it would
> take thousands of people thousands of years to just to collect two of
> everything they would just now be finishing this would be the biggest make
> work project ever.
>
> Fairy tales all.
>
>
> "Arny" <A...@ary.arny> wrote in message
> news:%LEzc.763058$Ig.86484@pd7tw2no...
>
>
>
indeed; it would take a miracle.
catchmerevisited
clemens....@formulaoneinvestments.com wrote on 6/15/04 4:06 PM:
> "Eat Dirt" <use_emai...@justbelow.none> wrote in message
> news:use_email_in_sig-FD...@news.cg.shawcable.net...
>> In article <%LEzc.763058$Ig.86484@pd7tw2no>, "Arny" <A...@ary.arny>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where in the bible does it claim the sun revolves around the earth? Show
> us!
>
> Well, Joshua made THE SUN stand still. Joshua 10:12-13
> And again, the SUN went back 10 degrees. 2 Kings 20:9-11
>
> For someone who is supposedly both the author of the book as well as maker
> of the universe, the god of the Bible is woefully ignorant of his own
> creation.
>
> I hope you're not a professing Christian. It's a bad sign when an atheist
> knows the Bible better than one who claims to believe in it.
>
not a hard feat for anyone, making the sun stand still.
moving it back.... would be tricky.
catchmerevisited
clemens....@formulaoneinvestments.com wrote on 6/15/04 4:12 PM:
>
> "Strings" <blabn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OtFzc.5606$vO1....@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
>> Bible is full of that bull stuff.
>> Adam and Eve have two sons where do they get wives,
>
> Nobody claimed it had to make sense. I guess Adam & Eve had (unmentioned)
> daughters, with whom their sons then had incestuous relationships. The
> result: Christians.
>
Christians... without Christ? directly from Adam and Eve no less!
God asked Adam if he wanted a woman who would obey his every whim, never
complain and always be loyal to him.
Adam said sure, and God told him it would cost him an arm and a leg.
Adam asked God what he could get for a rib,...
and the rest is History.
catchmerevisited
hiss...@bigmailbox.net wrote on 6/15/04 6:14 PM:
> The Power of Order Destroyed SunDancingGuy's Planet on 6/14/04 8:39 PM.
>
>> Church Not Taking Devil Seriously
>
> That's because the Devil is an imaginary deity of Christian mythology. You
> might as well say that the Church is not taking Klingons seriously.
>
You mean they don't?
catchmerevisited
hiss...@bigmailbox.net wrote on 6/15/04 6:39 PM:
metaphysics v. scepticism: 2 philosophers in an abstract debate.
catchmerevisited
hiss...@bigmailbox.net wrote on 6/15/04 6:40 PM:
> The Power of Order Destroyed SunDancingGuy's Planet on 6/15/04 10:53 AM.
>
>> ...funny....Satan says the same thing.
>
>
> Now you are talking to Satan, dumbass?
>
Ever since I got a hotline, I don't need my Ouija board.
catchmerevisited
hiss...@bigmailbox.net wrote on 6/15/04 6:56 PM:
do you have an electronic, multithreaded version?
handy with the quotes.
Strings
Right on.
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Eat Dirt
catchmerevisited <catchmerev...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> God asked Adam if he wanted a woman who would obey his every whim, never
> complain and always be loyal to him.
> Adam said sure, and God told him it would cost him an arm and a leg.
> Adam asked God what he could get for a rib,...
> and the rest is History.
hehehe
Moments like these is when I love the bible. Wonderful source for funny
material
Al Smith
>>> complain and always be loyal to him.
>>> Adam said sure, and God told him it would cost him an arm and a leg.
>>> Adam asked God what he could get for a rib,...
>>> and the rest is History.
>
>
> hehehe
> Moments like these is when I love the bible. Wonderful source for funny
> material
I think Adam was just ribbing God, but the Almighty took him
seriously. That's what happens when you are ahead of your time.
His Divine Shadow
>> Psalms 139:8: "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed
>> in hell, behold, thou art there." Heaven is upwards from earth; Hell
>> (actually a mistranslation of the Hebrew place name Sheol) is downwards from
>> earth.
>>
>> http://www.religioustolerance.org/cosmo_bibl2.htm
>>
>>
>> In Other Words, read your fucking Bible already.
>
> do you have an electronic, multithreaded version?
> handy with the quotes.
>
I used to, but now I just rely on a search engine. There is absolutely
nothing that the Flat Earther's bring up that someone hasn't already
disassembled somewhere on the web.
--
VVV
His Shadow
Thank you for your support, my friends. May the Great Cthulhu spare you
briefly.
Neomancer.com Inc.
Randa
> The Power of Order Destroyed catchmerevisited's Planet on 6/16/04
6:23 AM.
>
> >> Psalms 139:8: "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I
make my bed
> >> in hell, behold, thou art there." Heaven is upwards from earth;
Hell
> >> (actually a mistranslation of the Hebrew place name Sheol) is
downwards from
> >> earth.
> >>
> >> http://www.religioustolerance.org/cosmo_bibl2.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> In Other Words, read your fucking Bible already.
> >
> > do you have an electronic, multithreaded version?
> > handy with the quotes.
> >
>
> I used to, but now I just rely on a search engine. There is
absolutely
> nothing that the Flat Earther's bring up that someone hasn't already
> disassembled somewhere on the web.
LOL ! I *always* read your posts.
Your extremely effective dissection of the lunatics and X-tians
frequently brings great laughter here!
Well done!
Strings
in fact a dump at the end of the village with a fire burning.
"Randa" <nom...@randa.randa> wrote in message
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Randa
"Strings" <noj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I seen on TLC on night that Hell when traced back through old
documents was
> in fact a dump at the end of the village with a fire burning.
And I seen your forged high school diploma.
SunDancingGuy
>
> >> Psalms 139:8: "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed
> >> in hell, behold, thou art there." Heaven is upwards from earth; Hell
> >> (actually a mistranslation of the Hebrew place name Sheol) is downwards from
> >> earth.
> >>
> >> http://www.religioustolerance.org/cosmo_bibl2.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> In Other Words, read your fucking Bible already.
> >
> > do you have an electronic, multithreaded version?
> > handy with the quotes.
> >
>
> I used to, but now I just rely on a search engine. There is absolutely
> nothing that the Flat Earther's bring up that someone hasn't already
> disassembled somewhere on the web.
...wonderful isn't it, now you really don't have to think.
Unexploded
(SunDancingGuy) wrote:
>...wonderful isn't it, now you really don't have to think.
He's found religion? You must be thrilled.
johnson..
church. He was created to keep the un-educated masses, hundreds of years
ago, coming back to church and putting money in the collection plate.
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"SunDancingGuy" <SunDan...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Church Not Taking Devil Seriously, Exorcist Warns
>
> http://www.catholicexchange.com/e3news/index.asp?category_id=10
Strings
I saw a documentary on TLC some months back and they traced the origin of
Hell back using old documents and it turns out Its a word meaning the
"burning garbage dump on the edge of town"
It was speculated they may have burned their dead bodies there.
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His Divine Shadow
>>> do you have an electronic, multithreaded version?
>>> handy with the quotes.
>>>
>>
>> I used to, but now I just rely on a search engine. There is absolutely
>> nothing that the Flat Earther's bring up that someone hasn't already
>> disassembled somewhere on the web.
>
> ...wonderful isn't it, now you really don't have to think.
Pathetic, isn't it, how you continue to believe falsehoods?
--
VVV
His Shadow
Those who profess to favour freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men
who want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the
roar of its many waters.
Frederick Douglass
catchmerevisited
kn...@vatmail.com wrote on 8/6/04 6:28 AM:
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:40:43 GMT, "Arny" <A...@ary.arny> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Eat Dirt" <use_emai...@justbelow.none> wrote in message
>> news:use_email_in_sig-0B...@news.cg.shawcable.net...
>>> In article <BLAzc.5523$vO1....@nnrp1.uunet.ca>,
>>> "Strings" <blabn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Show us one scrap of proof your religion is real,
>>>> PROOF not hear say, visions, hallucinations, provable facts only.
>>>> Example fact against:
>>>> The bible has the Sun going around the Earth,
>>>> FACT is it does not.
>>>
>>> So the sun DOES NOT go around the Earth... hey, thanks for clarifying
>>> that. That stupid bible almost had me going. But really, thank you
>>> kindly for letting the rest of us now. Much appreciated.
>>>
>> Where in the bible does it claim the sun revolves around the earth? Show us!
>>
> Why don't you ask Lauzon - his church made Galileo recant.
it has something to do with a biblical recount of how someone made "the sun
stand still".
By implication, one can infer that in fact, if he made the sun stand still,
the sun must have moved before.
If the sun is held to be mobile, that means the Earth must be stationary.
When, Centuries later, Galileo 'proved' the Earth revolved around the Sun,
the Religious leaders of the day claimed he spoke a Heresy. Poor Galileo-
either he had a crisis of Faith that day, or was truly an athiest.
SunDancer
...funny, today the Church agrees with science, that life begins
at conception, now it seems the worldly thinkers are having a
tough time agreeing with that simple fact.
--
($50 million? Where the hell did you get that figure?
An aborton costs about $600. 100,000 x $600 =
$600,000. Seems you failed arithmetic as well as
logic, Lauzon. Why am I not surprised?)
--
-Ivan Gowch
catchmerevisited
SunDan...@netscape.net wrote on 8/7/04 3:28 PM:
> ($50 million? Where the hell did you get that figure?
> An aborton costs about $600. 100,000 x $600 =
> $600,000. Seems you failed arithmetic as well as
> logic, Lauzon. Why am I not surprised?)
> --
For the Record:
100,000 x
600
---------
000,000
0000,00
60000,0
----------
60,000,000
(60 million)
Clemens Gehrmann
<SunDan...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>...funny, today the Church agrees with science, that life begins
>at conception, now it seems the worldly thinkers are having a
>tough time agreeing with that simple fact.
Where does science teach that? As far as I know, both the egg and the
sperm are 'alive'.
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An Unexploded Scotsman
<SunDan...@netscape.net> wrote:
>...funny, today the Church agrees with science, that life begins
>at conception, now it seems the worldly thinkers are having a
>tough time agreeing with that simple fact.
Hey John, at what point does your life begin?
Ivan Gowch
<SunDan...@netscape.net> wrote:
[snip]
==>...funny, today the Church agrees with science, that life begins
==>at conception, now it seems the worldly thinkers are having a
==>tough time agreeing with that simple fact.
As someone has already pointed out,
"science" says no such thing.
But aside from that, the Roman Catholic Church
also agrees (with NAMBLA, in this instance),
that the holes in little boys' bottoms were placed
there by God for the amusement and gratification
of the church's officers and employees.
IOW, what the church "agrees with" is of less
importance to rational people than that it stops
meddling in the reproductive freedom of women,
and that it keeps its nasty, sticky hands off the
bodies of children.
Failing that, the collection of sick freaks that calls
itself a religious organization should be padlocked,
its assets seized, sold and distributed to its
surviving victims and its leaders stuck in prison,
where they will finally get to feel what altar boys
and other children who had the misfortune to
come into contact with the Church have felt for
centuries.
--
The danger to the life and well-being of children
increases in direct proportion to their proximity
to religion and its practitioners.
-Ivan Gowch