Your thoughts / feedback on the Auto-denial functionality

[Rohit]

Hey Mappers,

We rolled out a new functionality earlier today: Auto-denial. Check out the announcement for more details. We’d be glad to hear your thoughts on this feature update. here.

Thanks,
Rohit 

[Marc-André]

Hello here,

Enable this option to all the user can be dangerous ...

Giving this power to all the user can make restraint difficult and see some additional (sometimes very good) be refused for "troll" ...

I propose to make available this option to users with a little more experience, but not only give to RER.

Regards,

Marc-Andre.

RER Of Canada

[DdDave]

Marc-Andre, that's a good point.  I would expect that when it's auto denied, the denial will only carry as much trust as the reviewer has, so new reviewers won't be able to fully deny an edit.

[AdelTeo]

All users, even the beginners can deny an edit, so auto-denial for all users is not a problem. The problem is that auto-denial is enabled by default when users request for details on an edit. Auto-denial should be disabled by default and  just enabled by the reviewer when he decide that it's necessary auto-denial.

[Prasanth Rajan]

Hi,

I also feel the same. Disabling default auto-denial and enabling it when the request for information is good enough for auto-denial if no response is received seems to be the better route.

Regards.

Prasanth

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[Flash]

Yes, there is no reason not to give it to all; if a user can vote "deny" on an edit right now then it makes no difference if that vote is delayed for a week.  In fact, it might finally encourage a few to engage in conversation as we ask.

Additionally, the vote of "deny" only occurs if the mapper abandons the edit and doesn't reply.  That is cause for denial right there.

[Mara Winslow]

Uhm,  I assume that in that case all reviewers who auto-deny will first explain to each user, in some detail, how to reply and the consequences of not replying as I've been cautioned to do. 

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, General Map Maker on behalf of Flash <google-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Yes, there is no reason not to give it to all; if a user can vote "deny" on an edit right now then it makes no difference if that vote is delayed for a week.  In fact, it might finally encourage a few to engage in conversation as we ask.

Additionally, the vote of "deny" only occurs if the mapper abandons the edit and doesn't reply.  That is cause for denial right there.

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[Josh Manchester]

When I check the box for 7 Day denial I have been putting in my comments the fact that the edit will auto deny if the user takes no action.

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[kanu desai]

Hi All, There is some days before i had 1 edited  then, it had been pending ,When 1 Gr comment there then, i had seen in comment bellow like denial words in black and white color.

So i had undo the feature.

Good is that, it had not been Denial.

Regard

KD

[Flash]

Kanu, you don't have to undo it; if you know it is right and there is a problem with their reasoning, you can reply back and discuss it.  That is the same as always.  The new procedure is that if you don't reply back, it then will be denied.  This is for the problem of all the edits that are "Pending reply" for months.

[kanu desai]

Hi Flash, I always very eager to discuss about new matter and new issue but i edited feature was not important because i had edited popularity attribute of "Historical Museum " then i did have other works for mapping also i did not know about Auto Denial. So, Apologies  for miss it.

And now if i will get like this issue sure i will post it.

[Flash]

Oh, OK, I did not realize that you were doing something that shouldn't have been done.

[kanu desai]

Hi Rohit,I think this functionality have given Google Reviewers.

I think, the functionality should give selected reviewers that not only RERs and Advocates.

It must give active Mappers and Reviewers like me.

Regard

KD

[Willy Hrachovina]

Something else that I have noticed is that, at least for the GRs, after the edit has gone for 7 days without further action by the editor, the denial does not cancel the edit. I have had to add a denial as an RER to completely erase the edit from pending status. Hopefully this sheds some light on what or how this will work...

[Josh Manchester]

Yes, I have had to deny the edits also even after a GR has denied due to lack of follow up by the user.

 

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Something else that I have noticed is that, at least for the GRs, after the edit has gone for 7 days without further action by the editor, the denial does not cancel the edit. I have had to add a denial as an RER to completely erase the edit from pending status. Hopefully this sheds some light on what or how this will work...

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[Rahim]

Hey guys,

Sorry for chiming in late here. 

@Willy - I’d appreciate if you could post back with the link in question.

Thanks,

Rahim

[Willy Hrachovina]

I have noticed it several times, though this is the most recent occurrence: Chimney Hill shopping center.

[Willy Hrachovina]

Another example: Hospital

[Rahim]

@Willy - Good catch there! Thanks for sharing these links. We’re looking into it. I’ll keep you posted if I have any update on this.

Cheers,

~Rahim