log quota

[sophie]

Hello!

Looking through the app log I see a message:

You have ingested 10 GB of logs for the month. Starting on 05.12.16, ingestion quota will be enforced at 5 GB for users without a Stackdriver account.

I can not understand what happens when the quota is exhausted. Logging will be terminated? My application is stopped before the following month?

[Alex Martelli]

We're working to clarify the exact wording in time for Dec 5 (not easy over the Thanksgiving holidays here in the US, so, apologies for any timing glitch) but the general intention (subject to more precise wording) is as follows...:

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 6:40 AM, sophie <sophie.sm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello!

Looking through the app log I see a message:

You have ingested 10 GB of logs for the month. Starting on 05.12.16, ingestion quota will be enforced at 5 GB for users without a Stackdriver account.

I can not understand what happens when the quota is exhausted. Logging will be terminated?

The idea is to let log messages generated by App Engine itself keep getting logged for free (until at some time in the future we offer you a way to selectively filter some or all of them) while not logging any more (until the quota resets) any log messages generated by your application (including libraries and frameworks it chooses to use).

 

My application is stopped before the following month?

No, that was never the idea: the application itself does NOT get stopped when it exhausts log quota, just without the complete logs it's getting up to that point. I'll try to ensure this key point is better explained in future communication.

Thanks,

Alex

 

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[Joshua Fox]

If instead, you allowed the ingestion of all logs but retained only most recent 5 GB (or  other value), it would allow apps to function -- no app can work without logging --  yet provide incentive to your customers to pay.

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[Marcel Manz]

100% ACK

This is wrong move by Google to discard any application logs as soon as the 5GB are reached until quota reset, forcing customer to buy Stackdriver Premium in order to keep the existing functionality.

Google should better apply the rule to just show the most recent 5GB of logs (no matter from which source they got ingested from).

Marcel

[Mark Cummins]

Could anyone clarify the pricing? The message says "Please upgrade to the Premium Tier", however, when I click "Learn More", there is an option:

Basic Tier

Logs allotment:  5 GB per month per project
Logs allotment overage: $0.50 per GB

https://cloud.google.com/stackdriver/pricing?hl=en_US&_ga=1.212419412.1363903900.1467732610

Our current usage is about 9GB per month. So does this mean we can just pay $2 per month for the extra 4GB? 

Or are we forced to use Premium for some reason? The Premium Tier pricing is pretty mysterious to me.

[Marcel Manz]

Found the following pages:

https://app.google.stackdriver.com/settings/accounts/billing/

https://app.google.stackdriver.com/settings/accounts/billing/resource-usage/

Here they show the amount of resources and the log ingestion GB's. As it appears Stackdriver Premium cannot be activated just for certain resources, but only for all resources running inside a project, it's questionable how running resources are counted? Is this the average amount of resources in a given month? Not that we would need to pay eg. 100 x $8 if at some point in a month we would shortly have 100 App Engine instances running simultaneously.

Would be appreciated if Google could clarify this.

Thanks