sending email via smtp-server: SSL?
Martin Steffen
Hi,
I have the following question: I want to send email via gnus. That works
very well since years for me. However, at the place here, there is the
following complication:
I want to use my laptop from home, and the way they set it up, I started to
use IMAP for reading, and the want that email is sent via some server
smpt.myorganization.xx
(BTW: When directly ``inside'' the net of my university, everything works
fine, it's only from home that I have trouble). Now, the gnus-manual
recommends (if I am not mistaken) in that case the setting:
(setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
(setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.myorganization.xx")
However, emails don't get sent. I noticed, that when trying to send emails
via evolution, emails don't get sent (presumably for the same reason)
_unless_ I configure evolution for sending emails a
security option
namely stating that it uses a
"use secure connection: SSL-encryption"
How can I activate the same thing for gnus? Or maybe in general.
Thanks, Martin Steffen
Andrzej Adam Filip
Looking for alternative solutions:
a) Does the SMTP server require SMMTP authentication?
b) Do you have ssh access to OS account at the university?
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Martin Steffen
Andrzej> Looking for alternative solutions: a) Does the SMTP server
Andrzej> require SMMTP authentication?
I will ask the gurus about that, I don't know.
They have a web-page where they describe how to use email (but they
describe only evolution, and from outside/home, webmail-access seems
recommended, which is a pain...). That "SMMTP"-thing is not mentioned.
BTW: I also succeeded to use the mentioned SMTP-server to forward emails
sent from my cell phone by setting the security option to "SSL/TLS"
(without it it does not work). Maybe that is related to the thing.
Andrzej> b) Do you have ssh access to OS
Andrzej> account at the university?
I do have ssh-access to my login at the university. Or what do you mean by
"ssh access to OS acount"? That's indeed how I use gnus: login via ssh, and
then use emacs/gnus.
It would be nicer to do it direct, however: first of all, emacs would not
run inside an xterm, and, more important, I could write offline-emails, if
I had solved that.
But thanks
Martin
Andrzej> -- [pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : an...@priv.onet.pl :
Andrzej> an...@xl.wp.pl I know not with what weapons World War III will
Andrzej> be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and
Andrzej> stones. -- Albert Einstein
Andrzej Adam Filip
The page below describes how to make gnus use both STARTTLS and SSL:
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusGmail
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The time when men of reason go to bed.
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Martin Steffen
Andrzej> The page below describes how to make gnus use both STARTTLS
Andrzej> and SSL: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusGmail
Thanks. Indeed for gmail it works. For the local setting, I am unable to
get that running, even if I think I understood, what the gurus told me
(except that they don't know about emacs). The symptoms are strange:
I have been told, that I can use
tls at port 25, or
smpts ssl at port 465
So, I mainly tried 25 (I also tried 465, but mainly I thought 25 is more
standard), and for that, I used
(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
smtpmail-starttls-credentials '(("smtp.myorg.com" 25 nil nil))
smtpmail-auth-credentials '(("smtp.myorg.com" 25 "myn...@myorg.com nil))
smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.myorg.com"
smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.myorg.com"
smtpmail-smtp-service 25
smtpmail-debug-info t
smtpmail-debug-verb t )
Seem pretty much the same with the config which works for gmail (exept the
server is different).
Now, when sending an email (either via message-send-mail-function or
send-mail-function), what _should_ happen is that it prompts me for my
password. What actually happens is
>>Cannot connect to smtp.myorg.com:25: Connection timed out
>>Resolving 'smtp.uio.no'...
>>Connecting to 'zzz.xxx.yyy.zz:25'.
Looking at some error traces and the smpt-emacs-trace-buffer, what seems
to happen is that emacs starts the following a process:
gnutls-cli -s smtp.myorg.com -p 25 (***)
Indeed, when I invoke that directly in the shell, the same happens as given
above: basically nothing, until it time-outs. I guess, that's the reason
of the problem. This belief is supported by the observation, that when I
type (***) when logged on at the university, it opens a TLS-dialogue to the
SMTP-server.
Anyway, that's as far as I got, but now I am stuck (as I think I followed
the instructions of the local administators ("use port 25, use TLS"). What
should I ask them, apart from telling them those observations? Can there be
more authentication hurdles? On some web-pages, there had been mention of
~/.authinfo, is this something, I need to study further?
Thanks, Martin
Andrzej> -- [pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : an...@priv.onet.pl :
Andrzej> an...@xl.wp.pl Dawn, n.: The time when men of reason go to bed.
Andrzej> -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"