Special Board Meeting - May 3rd, 10am at ALTSpace
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Dan Ryan
Apr 14, 2015, 12:18:18 AM4/14/15
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A special board meeting has been called per the bylaws to
dissolve and reorganize the board due to lack of inolvement and
attendance by most of the current board members. This meeting is
scheduled for 10am on May 3rd 2015 at ALTSpace, over at 2318 E
Cherry St, Seattle WA 98122.
If you want to be on the board, or are interested in attending the board meeting please come. Additionally, this email constitutes 10+ day advance notice of this special board meeting, per Freegeek Seattle's Bylaws.
Sincerely,
Dan Ryan
If you want to be on the board, or are interested in attending the board meeting please come. Additionally, this email constitutes 10+ day advance notice of this special board meeting, per Freegeek Seattle's Bylaws.
Sincerely,
Dan Ryan
Lee Fisher
May 2, 2015, 11:24:50 PM5/2/15
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Reminder, that is 10:00 *AM* Sunday.
Air Light Time & Space (ALTspace)
2318 E Cherry St, Seattle, WA 98122
(206) 424-7863
http://www.airlighttimespace.org/location/
"Air Light Time & Space is located at 2318 E. Cherry Street in
Seattle. It’s on the north side of Cherry Street, between 23rd and
24th Avenues, across the street from the Garfield Community Center.
The building features a row of white roll-up doors: ALTSpace is the
second from the left. There’s a black intercom box on the right side
of the door frame – push the button and someone will let you."
On 04/13/2015 09:18 PM, Dan Ryan wrote:
> A special board meeting has been called per the bylaws
> <https://freegeekseattle.org/wiki/Bylaws> to dissolve and
>
> Sincerely, Dan Ryan
>
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Reminder, that is 10:00 *AM* Sunday.
Air Light Time & Space (ALTspace)
2318 E Cherry St, Seattle, WA 98122
(206) 424-7863
http://www.airlighttimespace.org/location/
"Air Light Time & Space is located at 2318 E. Cherry Street in
Seattle. It’s on the north side of Cherry Street, between 23rd and
24th Avenues, across the street from the Garfield Community Center.
The building features a row of white roll-up doors: ALTSpace is the
second from the left. There’s a black intercom box on the right side
of the door frame – push the button and someone will let you."
On 04/13/2015 09:18 PM, Dan Ryan wrote:
> A special board meeting has been called per the bylaws
> reorganize the board due to lack of inolvement and attendance by
> most of the current board members. This meeting is scheduled for
> 10am on May 3rd 2015 at ALTSpace, over at 2318 E Cherry St, Seattle
> WA 98122.
>
> If you want to be on the board, or are interested in attending the
> board meeting please come. Additionally, this email constitutes 10+
> day advance notice of this special board meeting, per Freegeek
> Seattle's Bylaws <https://freegeekseattle.org/wiki/Bylaws>.
> most of the current board members. This meeting is scheduled for
> 10am on May 3rd 2015 at ALTSpace, over at 2318 E Cherry St, Seattle
> WA 98122.
>
> If you want to be on the board, or are interested in attending the
> board meeting please come. Additionally, this email constitutes 10+
> day advance notice of this special board meeting, per Freegeek
>
> Sincerely, Dan Ryan
>
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Andrew Kane
May 5, 2015, 7:45:20 PM5/5/15
to Lee Fisher, freegeek...@googlegroups.com
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On 05/05/2015 10:15 AM, Lee Fisher wrote:
>
> I'm also wondering why we need to jump into this. Why not wait for
> Andrew to return, for input on new group, he's the main Lead.
> FGSea can afford to take May off for a vacation.
I am not leaving until after May 7. I can't guarantee that I will be
back at the end of May. While I'm out of town I will be available via
email as usual, and on IRC as conditions permit.
> I'll donate the first year's insurance fees. The group needs a
> business plan with a sustainability model, so I won't donate the
> second year's fees.
IMO no one should donate anything until the corporate registration,
non-profit status, and other configuration is sorted.
scheduled. According to my information this new meeting will be at a
starbucks on Mercer Island on Wednesday, May 6 at 3PM. I did not get
any email announcing this meeting, so perhaps it only went to the
board list instead of the general list? Or maybe my spam filters are
excessively enthusiastic.
I have made arrangements to be present at this second meeting.
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On 05/05/2015 10:15 AM, Lee Fisher wrote:
>
> I'm also wondering why we need to jump into this. Why not wait for
> Andrew to return, for input on new group, he's the main Lead.
> FGSea can afford to take May off for a vacation.
I am not leaving until after May 7. I can't guarantee that I will be
back at the end of May. While I'm out of town I will be available via
email as usual, and on IRC as conditions permit.
> I'll donate the first year's insurance fees. The group needs a
> business plan with a sustainability model, so I won't donate the
> second year's fees.
IMO no one should donate anything until the corporate registration,
non-profit status, and other configuration is sorted.
>
> On 04/13/2015 09:18 PM, Dan Ryan wrote:
> On 04/13/2015 09:18 PM, Dan Ryan wrote:
>> A special board meeting has been called per the bylaws
>> <https://freegeekseattle.org/wiki/Bylaws> to dissolve and
>> reorganize the board due to lack of inolvement and attendance by
>> most of the current board members. This meeting is scheduled for
>> 10am on May 3rd 2015 at ALTSpace, over at 2318 E Cherry St,
>> Seattle WA 98122.
There was no quorum at this meeting. Another meeting has been
>> most of the current board members. This meeting is scheduled for
>> 10am on May 3rd 2015 at ALTSpace, over at 2318 E Cherry St,
>> Seattle WA 98122.
scheduled. According to my information this new meeting will be at a
starbucks on Mercer Island on Wednesday, May 6 at 3PM. I did not get
any email announcing this meeting, so perhaps it only went to the
board list instead of the general list? Or maybe my spam filters are
excessively enthusiastic.
I have made arrangements to be present at this second meeting.
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Lee Fisher
May 5, 2015, 7:59:54 PM5/5/15
to Andrew Kane, freegeek...@googlegroups.com
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Jon, do you have an address/URL for where you proposed?
> There was no quorum at this meeting.
Current board, and their quorum does not matter. The current org is
lapsed and not a valid WA.gov-recognized entity. Probably with no bank
account, unknown. We have to start over, with registering org with WA,
and starting 5013c status all over again.
We can't start anything new until we fix the Bylaws, and need to meet
and work this out. Jeremy seems to indicate that it'll take many meetings.
> Another meeting has been scheduled. According to my information
> this new meeting will be at a starbucks on Mercer Island on
> Wednesday, May 6 at 3PM. I did not get any email announcing this
> meeting, so perhaps it only went to the board list instead of the
> general list? Or maybe my spam filters are excessively
> enthusiastic.
Nobody replied to this last meeting. I was hoping Dan would.
I did reply to those present at last meeting that I'd prefer to
reschedule for Saturday at the weekend Workshop at FCS, since there
might be some LibrePlanet potential new Leads at that event. I'lll
lead, if Dan isn't scheduled to (I forget), but will be theory-only no
hands-on, Lead training. I don't want to lead a workshop where people
carry and rip apart hardware, until this org has insurance, or until
Jon clarifies FCS Computer Lab insurance policy for a group on
uninsured volunteers. But nobody replied.
I don't see the need to rush. Why not go take May off, and we can
restart in June? An early Summer vacation for all of the FCS Computer
Lab Workshop's unincorporated volunteers, not just Andrew. :-)
I may only attend mid-island rush hour traffic-based meeting Wednesday
via phone, like Jon does. Please let me know who I can dial in from.
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Jon, do you have an address/URL for where you proposed?
> There was no quorum at this meeting.
lapsed and not a valid WA.gov-recognized entity. Probably with no bank
account, unknown. We have to start over, with registering org with WA,
and starting 5013c status all over again.
We can't start anything new until we fix the Bylaws, and need to meet
and work this out. Jeremy seems to indicate that it'll take many meetings.
> Another meeting has been scheduled. According to my information
> this new meeting will be at a starbucks on Mercer Island on
> Wednesday, May 6 at 3PM. I did not get any email announcing this
> meeting, so perhaps it only went to the board list instead of the
> general list? Or maybe my spam filters are excessively
> enthusiastic.
I did reply to those present at last meeting that I'd prefer to
reschedule for Saturday at the weekend Workshop at FCS, since there
might be some LibrePlanet potential new Leads at that event. I'lll
lead, if Dan isn't scheduled to (I forget), but will be theory-only no
hands-on, Lead training. I don't want to lead a workshop where people
carry and rip apart hardware, until this org has insurance, or until
Jon clarifies FCS Computer Lab insurance policy for a group on
uninsured volunteers. But nobody replied.
I don't see the need to rush. Why not go take May off, and we can
restart in June? An early Summer vacation for all of the FCS Computer
Lab Workshop's unincorporated volunteers, not just Andrew. :-)
I may only attend mid-island rush hour traffic-based meeting Wednesday
via phone, like Jon does. Please let me know who I can dial in from.
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Jon @ freegeek-sea
May 5, 2015, 8:09:50 PM5/5/15
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Looks like it makes no sense to rush anything and that we should step back to make sure we have the proper plan in place. Lets cancel tomorrow's meeting and reschedule.
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From: Andrew Kane <ak...@freegeekseattle.org>
Date: Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Free Geek Seattle] Special Board Meeting
To: j...@freegeekseattle.org
From: Andrew Kane <ak...@freegeekseattle.org>
Date: Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Free Geek Seattle] Special Board Meeting
To: j...@freegeekseattle.org
On 05/05/2015 05:09 PM, Jon @ freegeek-sea wrote:
> Looks like it makes no sense to rush anything and that we should
> step back to make sure we have the proper plan in place. Lets
> cancel tomorrow's meeting and reschedule.
Let us NOT cancel meetings on the afternoon of the day before said
meeting without, at minimum, proposing another day to meet.
I agree with Lee's idea of having the meeting during the Saturday
workshop during or instead of that workshop. I won't be there in
person but will endeavor to be on IRC.
meeting without, at minimum, proposing another day to meet.
I agree with Lee's idea of having the meeting during the Saturday
workshop during or instead of that workshop. I won't be there in
person but will endeavor to be on IRC.
> On May 5, 2015 4:59 PM, "Lee Fisher" <uni...@riseup.net> wrote:
>>>> There was no quorum at this meeting.
>
>
> Current board, and their quorum does not matter.
If the quorum does not matter then why have the Special Meetings at
all, and why break up the most recent one without deciding anything?
Do the existing members of the Board who can be bothered to read any
of this agree that the Board doesn't matter? If not, then perhaps some
of them could pipe up, or even attend a meeting.
all, and why break up the most recent one without deciding anything?
Do the existing members of the Board who can be bothered to read any
of this agree that the Board doesn't matter? If not, then perhaps some
of them could pipe up, or even attend a meeting.
> The current org is lapsed and not a valid WA.gov-recognized entity.
> Probably with no bank account, unknown. We have to start over, with
> registering org with WA, and starting 5013c status all over again.
>
> We can't start anything new until we fix the Bylaws
If this is true then we should be discussing *how* to fix the Bylaws.
IMO the only fix that's needed right away is an amendment which allows
non-Board-members to elect new Board members in the persistent absence
of a quorum of the Board such as we have now. Once that's done those
present can elect some Board members to achieve a quorum and then
proceed from there, presumably to pick some new officers to accomplish
the relicensing and re-application for nonprofit status and whatever else.
IMO the only fix that's needed right away is an amendment which allows
non-Board-members to elect new Board members in the persistent absence
of a quorum of the Board such as we have now. Once that's done those
present can elect some Board members to achieve a quorum and then
proceed from there, presumably to pick some new officers to accomplish
the relicensing and re-application for nonprofit status and whatever else.
>
> I did reply to those present at last meeting that I'd prefer to
> reschedule for Saturday at the weekend Workshop at FCS, since
> there might be some LibrePlanet potential new Leads at that event.
> I'lll lead, if Dan isn't scheduled to (I forget), but will be
> theory-only no hands-on, Lead training. I don't want to lead a
> workshop where people carry and rip apart hardware, until this org
> has insurance, or until Jon clarifies FCS Computer Lab insurance
> policy for a group on uninsured volunteers. But nobody replied.
As mentioned elsewhere, my suggestion is that all such operations
cease until the legal situation is sorted out.
cease until the legal situation is sorted out.
>
> I don't see the need to rush. Why not go take May off, and we can
> restart in June? An early Summer vacation for all of the FCS
> Computer Lab Workshop's unincorporated volunteers, not just
> Andrew.
We've gotten this far only because of people pushing to make things
happen. If there's any momentum to this at all, let's not let it
dissipate. There will be no better time after May to do any of these
things than there is now. If Free Geek Seattle requires my presence in
town for it to run, then let's just kill it now.
Before FGSEA started, I had been refurbishing computers, giving them
away, and promoting Free Software. During the 6 years I've been
involved with FGSEA, I've given away 5 computers on my own. To my
knowledge, FGSEA has given away 2. This makes it seem as though FGSEA
is a net loss with respect to the stated purpose of the organization,
in that I've spent (wasted?) time trying to keep it alive that I could
have spent building and giving away computers.
FGSEA can be something of which we can all be proud to be a part, but
first we must do our parts. Please, let's do what we can while we can.
Let's take it one small step at a time.
I hope to hear from you all on Saturday.
happen. If there's any momentum to this at all, let's not let it
dissipate. There will be no better time after May to do any of these
things than there is now. If Free Geek Seattle requires my presence in
town for it to run, then let's just kill it now.
Before FGSEA started, I had been refurbishing computers, giving them
away, and promoting Free Software. During the 6 years I've been
involved with FGSEA, I've given away 5 computers on my own. To my
knowledge, FGSEA has given away 2. This makes it seem as though FGSEA
is a net loss with respect to the stated purpose of the organization,
in that I've spent (wasted?) time trying to keep it alive that I could
have spent building and giving away computers.
FGSEA can be something of which we can all be proud to be a part, but
first we must do our parts. Please, let's do what we can while we can.
Let's take it one small step at a time.
I hope to hear from you all on Saturday.
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Dan Ryan
May 6, 2015, 9:58:28 AM5/6/15
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I'll try to be there this Saturday, worst case I'll attend via IRC.
We're going to need a couple meetings to sort out how we want Freegeek
Seattle to grow, if possible we (Lee, Andrew, Jon, Meg, Jeremy, Myself,
etc) should schedule a few meetings over the next two weeks to all get
together and really dive in and figure out Freegeek Seattle's roadmap
for the future.
If we could meet twice weekly with at least 4-5 of the people I just
listed in attendance, plus anyone else who is interested, I think we
could make real progress and start to move forward.
On 05/06/2015 01:27 AM, Andrew Kane wrote:
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Andrew Kane* <ak...@freegeekseattle.org
> <mailto:ak...@freegeekseattle.org>>
> Date: Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Free Geek Seattle] Special Board Meeting
> To: j...@freegeekseattle.org <mailto:j...@freegeekseattle.org>
>
>
> On 05/05/2015 05:09 PM, Jon @ freegeek-sea wrote:
>> Looks like it makes no sense to rush anything and that we should
>> step back to make sure we have the proper plan in place. Lets
>> cancel tomorrow's meeting and reschedule.
>
> Let us NOT cancel meetings on the afternoon of the day before said
> meeting without, at minimum, proposing another day to meet.
>
> I agree with Lee's idea of having the meeting during the Saturday
> workshop during or instead of that workshop. I won't be there in
> person but will endeavor to be on IRC.
>
> freegeekseattle.org <http://freegeekseattle.org>
We're going to need a couple meetings to sort out how we want Freegeek
Seattle to grow, if possible we (Lee, Andrew, Jon, Meg, Jeremy, Myself,
etc) should schedule a few meetings over the next two weeks to all get
together and really dive in and figure out Freegeek Seattle's roadmap
for the future.
If we could meet twice weekly with at least 4-5 of the people I just
listed in attendance, plus anyone else who is interested, I think we
could make real progress and start to move forward.
On 05/06/2015 01:27 AM, Andrew Kane wrote:
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Andrew Kane* <ak...@freegeekseattle.org
> <mailto:ak...@freegeekseattle.org>>
> Date: Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Free Geek Seattle] Special Board Meeting
> To: j...@freegeekseattle.org <mailto:j...@freegeekseattle.org>
>
>
> On 05/05/2015 05:09 PM, Jon @ freegeek-sea wrote:
>> Looks like it makes no sense to rush anything and that we should
>> step back to make sure we have the proper plan in place. Lets
>> cancel tomorrow's meeting and reschedule.
>
> Let us NOT cancel meetings on the afternoon of the day before said
> meeting without, at minimum, proposing another day to meet.
>
> I agree with Lee's idea of having the meeting during the Saturday
> workshop during or instead of that workshop. I won't be there in
> person but will endeavor to be on IRC.
>
>
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Jon @ freegeek-sea
May 6, 2015, 10:10:57 AM5/6/15
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If we are not meeting today, then I will attend Sat via IRC or conference call instead also. We will at least meet this week if not today.
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Lee Fisher
May 6, 2015, 11:36:27 AM5/6/15
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On 05/06/2015 06:58 AM, Dan Ryan wrote:
> I'll try to be there this Saturday, worst case I'll attend via
> IRC. We're going to need a couple meetings to sort out how we want
> Freegeek Seattle to grow, if possible we (Lee, Andrew, Jon, Meg,
> Jeremy, Myself, etc) should schedule a few meetings over the next
> two weeks to all get together and really dive in and figure out
> Freegeek Seattle's roadmap for the future.
I'll be at FCS Computer Lab on Saturday, I advertised the need for
> I'll try to be there this Saturday, worst case I'll attend via
> IRC. We're going to need a couple meetings to sort out how we want
> Freegeek Seattle to grow, if possible we (Lee, Andrew, Jon, Meg,
> Jeremy, Myself, etc) should schedule a few meetings over the next
> two weeks to all get together and really dive in and figure out
> Freegeek Seattle's roadmap for the future.
Leads on LibrePlanet. In case any show up, I will do a train-the-Lead
event, theory-only, no hands-on.
If others show up to work on Bylaws great. Can't we start to hash
these out on mailing list or wiki, too, not only face-to-face?
I've already mentioned that I'm swamped until mid-June, won't be in
town mid-June. I am happy to start make progress, but this May-June
timeframe is very bad for me, I won't be able to pay much attention
until late June.
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