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Le suicide et le meurtre (Wall Street journal)
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rogergonnet
Dec 2, 2015, 11:34:03 AM12/2/15
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Sacrifices to the Savage God
In the Middle Ages, suicide was more wicked than murder. Today we judge it
not morally but medically, as a byproduct of mental illness.
Wall Street Journal
By
JOANNA BOURKE
Nov. 30, 2015
On Feb. 11, 1963, the 30-year-old poet Sylvia Plath tiptoed into her
children’s room, left them some bread and milk, opened their window and
sealed their door, then went into her kitchen and put her head in the gas
oven. Later that morning, a visiting nurse discovered her body. It was not
her first attempt at suicide, but it was successful. A few years earlier she
had written about feeling “outcast on a cold star, unable to feel anything
but an awful helpless numbness. I look down into the warm, earthy world.
Into a nest of lovers’ beds, baby cribs, meal tables, all the solid commerce
of life in this earth, and feel apart, enclosed in a wall of glass.”
Plath was one of many gifted 20th-century literary figures (including
Virginia Woolf, Anne Sexton and Ernest Hemingway) to commit suicide. In 1972
Al Alvarez (poet, critic and friend of Plath) wrote “The Savage God” in an
attempt to come to terms with her death.
“Suicide,” he wrote, “has permeated Western culture like a dye that cannot
be washed out.” He lamented the mythologizing of Plath’s suicide. The “myth
of the poet as a sacrificial victim, offering herself up for the sake of her
art,” failed to do justice to either her life or her death. He was dismayed
that there seemed to be only two ways of thinking about suicide. The first
was religious, viewing it as a “horror,” a sin that was more wicked than
murder, since it destroyed the soul as well as the body. The second was
scientific, venerating statistics and objective analyses over individual
maladies or misery.
Suite:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/sacrifices-to-the-savage-god-1448928521
In the Middle Ages, suicide was more wicked than murder. Today we judge it
not morally but medically, as a byproduct of mental illness.
Wall Street Journal
By
JOANNA BOURKE
Nov. 30, 2015
On Feb. 11, 1963, the 30-year-old poet Sylvia Plath tiptoed into her
children’s room, left them some bread and milk, opened their window and
sealed their door, then went into her kitchen and put her head in the gas
oven. Later that morning, a visiting nurse discovered her body. It was not
her first attempt at suicide, but it was successful. A few years earlier she
had written about feeling “outcast on a cold star, unable to feel anything
but an awful helpless numbness. I look down into the warm, earthy world.
Into a nest of lovers’ beds, baby cribs, meal tables, all the solid commerce
of life in this earth, and feel apart, enclosed in a wall of glass.”
Plath was one of many gifted 20th-century literary figures (including
Virginia Woolf, Anne Sexton and Ernest Hemingway) to commit suicide. In 1972
Al Alvarez (poet, critic and friend of Plath) wrote “The Savage God” in an
attempt to come to terms with her death.
“Suicide,” he wrote, “has permeated Western culture like a dye that cannot
be washed out.” He lamented the mythologizing of Plath’s suicide. The “myth
of the poet as a sacrificial victim, offering herself up for the sake of her
art,” failed to do justice to either her life or her death. He was dismayed
that there seemed to be only two ways of thinking about suicide. The first
was religious, viewing it as a “horror,” a sin that was more wicked than
murder, since it destroyed the soul as well as the body. The second was
scientific, venerating statistics and objective analyses over individual
maladies or misery.
Suite:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/sacrifices-to-the-savage-god-1448928521
mindbrain
Dec 2, 2015, 1:53:15 PM12/2/15
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(38 témoins).
rogergonnet
Dec 2, 2015, 3:19:19 PM12/2/15
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vas te faire pendre, connard sciento. Tu passes ton temps ą effacer sans
mettre la moindre info, vas donc te faire foutre ailleurs.
mettre la moindre info, vas donc te faire foutre ailleurs.
mindbrain
Dec 4, 2015, 1:51:55 PM12/4/15
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"rogergonnet" <roger...@free.fr> faisait valoir sa science:
> vas te faire pendre, connard sciento. Tu passes ton temps à effacer
sites commerciaux* américains* qui racontent* des conneries* au sujets
de trucs dont on a raf* ^qui sont hors charte* et hors language* et hors
code-page* et qui n'émeuvent que vous*.
C'est vous le scientologue, c'est vous qui étiez OT, CLAIR, qui
chassiez les Thétans dans vos rêves surnaturels et recrutiez des
novices , pas moi.
one *: one point.
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> vas te faire pendre, connard sciento. Tu passes ton temps à effacer
> sans mettre la moindre info, vas donc te faire foutre ailleurs.
>
>
j'efface ? pourquoi recopier* des signes illisibles*, collés* de
>
>
sites commerciaux* américains* qui racontent* des conneries* au sujets
de trucs dont on a raf* ^qui sont hors charte* et hors language* et hors
code-page* et qui n'émeuvent que vous*.
C'est vous le scientologue, c'est vous qui étiez OT, CLAIR, qui
chassiez les Thétans dans vos rêves surnaturels et recrutiez des
novices , pas moi.
one *: one point.
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rogergonnet
Dec 5, 2015, 3:59:35 AM12/5/15
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"mindbrain" <aupo...@compteimail.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
20151204195153.3e51...@compteimail.net...
> "rogergonnet" <roger...@free.fr> faisait valoir sa science:
>
>> vas te faire pendre, connard sciento. Tu passes ton temps à effacer
>> sans mettre la moindre info, vas donc te faire foutre ailleurs.
>>
>>
>
> j'efface ? pourquoi recopier* des signes illisibles*, collés* de
c'estt parce que tu n'es qu'un débile infoutu d'avoir un ordi capable de
>
>> vas te faire pendre, connard sciento. Tu passes ton temps à effacer
>> sans mettre la moindre info, vas donc te faire foutre ailleurs.
>>
>>
>
> j'efface ? pourquoi recopier* des signes illisibles*, collés* de
lire les signes normaix.
mindbrain
Dec 6, 2015, 1:48:38 PM12/6/15
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"rogergonnet" <roger...@free.fr> faisait valoir sa science:
>
> "mindbrain" <aupo...@compteimail.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news: 20151204195153.3e51...@compteimail.net...
> > "rogergonnet" <roger...@free.fr> faisait valoir sa science:
> >
> >> vas te faire pendre, connard sciento. Tu passes ton temps à effacer
> >> sans mettre la moindre info, vas donc te faire foutre ailleurs.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > j'efface ? pourquoi recopier* des signes illisibles*, collés* de
>
> c'estt parce que tu n'es qu'un débile infoutu d'avoir un ordi capable
> de lire les signes normaix.
>
>
vous me confondez avec ce puraie, mon ordi non-infecté par la
>
> "mindbrain" <aupo...@compteimail.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news: 20151204195153.3e51...@compteimail.net...
> > "rogergonnet" <roger...@free.fr> faisait valoir sa science:
> >
> >> vas te faire pendre, connard sciento. Tu passes ton temps à effacer
> >> sans mettre la moindre info, vas donc te faire foutre ailleurs.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > j'efface ? pourquoi recopier* des signes illisibles*, collés* de
>
> c'estt parce que tu n'es qu'un débile infoutu d'avoir un ordi capable
> de lire les signes normaix.
>
>
gestapo des ordi fonctionne mieux que le votre et je le prouve quand je
veux.
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rogergonnet
Dec 8, 2015, 8:54:45 AM12/8/15
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20151206194837.548b...@compteimail.net...
certesn on va voir ça quand tu montreras ta tronche, ton non, ton adresse
ettc
> --
ettc
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mindbrain
Dec 8, 2015, 6:20:22 PM12/8/15
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> > vous me confondez avec ce puraie, mon ordi non-infecté par la
> > gestapo des ordi fonctionne mieux que le votre et je le prouve
> > quand je veux.
>
> certesn on va voir ça quand tu montreras ta tronche, ton non, ton
> adresse ettc
Pardon ? Mon ip, mon id ? Je déménage prochainement pour le lac de
> > gestapo des ordi fonctionne mieux que le votre et je le prouve
> > quand je veux.
>
> certesn on va voir ça quand tu montreras ta tronche, ton non, ton
> adresse ettc
geneve, bien sur, je vous l'ai dis attendez mes emails.
Vous avez toujours cru qu'on était qu'1, mais "on" est 100, et Puraie
existe vraiment, pas moi, ça fait déjà 2 :-) :-)
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