Alan Vogel <alan_...@sil.org>: Sep 28 06:16PM -0300
Kristine, one alternative for the exporting problem that you did not mention is to export from Flex using the "OpenOffice/LibreOffice Writer" option. The resulting file is easier to work with than the one resulting from the two Word options. If you are willing to use OpenOffice or LibreOffice to write your papers, this might be a good option. The one down side at the present time is that the current version of Flex has a problem in this export process, whereby some of the sentence numbers (and sometimes a word at the beginning of a sentence) doesn't get exported. This problem is on the list of the Flex developers to fix, and in the meantime it is possible to manually add the missing numbers and words in the exported document. Alan On 9/27/2017 1:33 PM, kristine Stenzel wrote: |
Jeff Heath <jeff_...@sil.org>: Sep 29 12:18AM -0700
Kris, For the interlinear question, you can use Tools > Configure > Interlinear to request whatever analysis lines you want in your Interlinear. In this example, I asked it to give me the underlying morphemes (which I believe would be your underlying form) and also the lexical form: In this case the underlying form "chil" comes from an allomorph in the entry for "chaal": I'm pretty sure what you want to do can be done... it's just a matter of pinning it down and getting it into FLEx terminology. Hope that helps, Jeff |
Beth-docs Bryson <beth-doc...@sil.org>: Sep 29 10:26AM -0500
I wrote this several days ago, and then somehow didn’t hit “send”. Others have since said some of what I said below, but I figured I would send it anyway, just in case there is anything new. -Beth ------ Actually, “Lexeme Form” and “Citation Form” are not the only two fields that matter here. Normally “Citation Form” is for situations where the normal headword for a dictionary would be an inflected form, rather than a root or stem. For instance, if the dictionary needs the infinitive of a verb, or the 3rd Person Present, then that form would go there, and the root (or stem) would go in the Lexeme Form field. It is the Allomorph fields that are for storing the different surface forms of morphemes. Normally one would try to put the “most basic” allomorph in the Lexeme Form field, and then all the other ones would go in multiple Allomorph fields. (Look near the bottom of the Lexicon Edit view to find this field, or use the “Insert” menu to add a blank one.) All of them are available to the interlinear when you break a surface word into pieces, and it tries to see if it can find any of those pieces in the lexicon. (If you are using one of the automatic parsers, then the order you list the allomorphs matters, and you would want the “elsewhere” allomorph in the Lexeme Form field.) In the interlinear output, I’m pretty sure the interlinear row for “Lex. Entry” only shows the Lexeme Form, not the Citation Form. Certainly this has been requested in the past (I could look up the Jira number if someone wants it). Kristine, one way to configure the interlinear output is by going to the “Print Output” tab of the Interlinear view (I don’t think that’s the right name, but it is the last one, after “Info”, “Gloss”, “Analyze”, etc.). Then use the menu item Tools/Configure/Interlinear to adjust which rows are showing, and what Writing System each row shows. If you are on that tab when you export, then the settings you made for that tab will apply to your export. However, this may not do what you want. Yes, you can choose whether to show the Morphemes row (surface forms) or the Lex. Entry row (underlying form), this doesn’t allow you to choose whether the Lex. Entry row is showing the “Lexeme Form” field or the “Citation Form” field. In terms of the export options, there are two options for Word (Word 2007 and an older version), and they do slightly different things, and people have had greater or less success using them. I believe the Word 2007 option uses a kind of “formula” format instead of ordinary tables, and the reason for that is so the lines *would* automatically wrap. The OpenOffice export is also a good one, and many people have had more success with that than with either of the Word options. It puts the output into a table instead of a “mathematical formula". Some people find it much easier to work with a table (you can select rows or columns and apply formatting to only that row or column, for instance), but this one definitely *does not* automatically wrap the lines—you have to manually divide the table at the page margin. It is certainly true that there is plenty of room for improvement in the interlinear export options, but I wanted to be sure you were at least aware of some of what *is* currently available, in case any of it applies to you. -Beth |