Spring 2016 Lisp Game Jam - how to package a binary?

[Robert Herman]

FYI - the Lips Game Jam next takes place in about 3 weeks!

I would love to use Extempore, so I can continue to learn it, but the issue is how to distribute a binary or show it other than a video. I can include a README and the xtlang source, but is there a way to have somebody run it without Extempore installed in some manner?

Thanks!

Rob

[Robert Herman]

Oops, here's the link: https://itch.io/jam/spring-2016-lisp-game-jam

[Andrew Sorensen]

Not easily at the moment I'm afraid.

It really isn't much work to have Extempore build a stand-alone executable (xtlang).  I have a plan, I'm afraid that I just haven't gotten around to it.  Yet one more thing on the post PhD list ;)

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[Robert Herman]

You are very productive nonetheless!

It's not a requirement; I can include the xtlang source and tell people to install Extempore if they want to run it. The only problem is how difficult it is for a user to install/build Extempore to see the fruits of my labor. I realize it is a livecoding environment, but for the installation stuff you have done, do you just run it off of a running Extempore instance?

Thanks!

Rob

[Andrew Sorensen]

$ extempore --run /path/to/file.xtm.  

This doesn't get around the 'installing extempore' problem, but once installed it's easy enough for anyone to run an extempore 'program'.  You can even hide these 'gruesome details' with a wrapper - shell script, batch file, etc.. 

Another option is the image/container path.  This works well, although you'll be shipping around large (potentially very large) files.  Docker is a good option, but you'll still need a relatively savvy end user.

Ultimately, for installation work, generating standalone executables is definitely going to happen - just not sure when.

[Robert Herman]

Never really been an issue for me except for showcasing works other than recording yourself. In due time. I still need to master xtlang, and get on with some mad livecoding! Are you going to do more video/graphics demonstrations? I used to use Max/PD/fluxus for visuals, but was hoping to mask my lack of musical talent with some supreme graphic distractions ;)

[Jason Levine]

Robert! The point of livecoding is that musical talent is not necessary!  Simply reverse engineer the rhythms and harmonies of your favorite artists and translate those abstract concepts into Extempore ;)

Jason Levine

new media performer + creative coder

https://www.behance.net/jasonlevine

[Robert Herman]

Funny, but actually I would have never have learned as much about music if I didn't do exactly what you just said: try and imitate others, like Andrew! My brother was playing guitar at age 9 in 1974, which was more rare then than now. I was busy with my microscope and telescope until I bought a Commodore PET in 1979! Now, I am hoping to show him up at my keyboard ;)
Extempore is tough for a novice. I program, but I find CM with the Grace.exe to be easier to gain some basic music coding concepts with Taube's book open on my PC next to me. I am always in the Lisp world thought, CM, Extempore, and LFE (but no music on that, mainly neural networks to leverage the BEAM/OTP and learn that!).
I lied, I did venture into Tidal a bit like a kid on Ritalin!

Rob