OT: Anyone running Windows 7 and Jaws?

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Harry and Glorie

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Jan 12, 2011, 9:10:18 PM1/12/11
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My fiance just bought a new notbook and we need to know if Freedom Science-fiction actually has a version of Jaws that will run on a 64 bit machine.
 
I know that there must be one, as even Vista is falling out of favor and no one in their right mind wants to downgrade to Vista.
 
Thanks ahead of time,
 
Harry

shaun everiss

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Jan 13, 2011, 1:50:15 AM1/13/11
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well the latest versions of jaws I think 12 and 11 work.
You could always use old xp.
Thats getting less to but it works at least.
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Richard Sherman

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Jan 13, 2011, 1:49:02 AM1/13/11
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Hi,

Versions 10, 11, and 12 have 64 bit versions. check the site out to find the
appropriate download. I suggest getting version 12 if you can. it fixes
quite a bit, including flash. I just got it installed today.

The Shermanator

Darren Harris

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Jan 13, 2011, 2:33:39 AM1/13/11
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Or just get window eyes that solves the problem all in 1. Works fine on my
64 bit laptop.

Hi,

Thanks ahead of time,

Harry

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Harry and Glorie

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Jan 13, 2011, 5:26:07 AM1/13/11
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Ok, I figured it would be one of the latest versions... A techie friend told
me that we were pretty much screwed on Jaws.

Unfortunately installing XP onto a notebook can be a dicey thing,
particularly when you don't have a copy of XP to begin with (My laptop is an
Acer, and the desktop is currupted, so I don't dare try to make a copy there
for fear of bringing the problems that prompted this purchase with it).


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Harry and Glorie

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Jan 13, 2011, 5:27:13 AM1/13/11
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Need to find that thousand dollar + price tag first. *sighs* but it does
answer my question.

Harry


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enes

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Jan 13, 2011, 10:25:53 AM1/13/11
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jaws 12 runs 64 bit
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enes

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Jan 13, 2011, 10:27:06 AM1/13/11
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i don't think you can go to xp
new venders don't allow it

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Harry and Glorie

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Jan 13, 2011, 12:21:40 PM1/13/11
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I did just that with the computer I'm sitting at. It came from the factory
with Windows 7, but I couldn't use Jaws on it, so I paid someone to install
XP on it. It works fine.

What I meant about difficult is finding a copy these days and finding
someone who's willing to do the install.

Jason Symes

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Jan 13, 2011, 3:48:28 PM1/13/11
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Nonsense, as long as you can find Xp drivers for all devices and don't mind
your manufacturer's warranty being voided, then it can be done in most
cases.

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Harry and Glorie

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Jan 13, 2011, 4:17:21 PM1/13/11
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Well, as this was a used notebook, the manufacturer's warrentee was mute.
But, as I said, I didn't have anything that would work on either a Vista or
a 7 machine, so I had no choice but go back to XP.

If I ever find money for Jaws 12, or even a way to borrow it, then I might
look at upgrading. I know that eventually, I won't have any choice about it,
and I'll have to beg, borrow or steal Jaws 12, but until then, well... xp is
still working ok.

shaun everiss

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Jan 13, 2011, 5:25:37 PM1/13/11
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well if you save for it and I have 7 is better for us previding we
can shell out cash for it.
I have cash to get one of my packages updated after 2 years of saving.
I can then use 7 if I wish.
At 06:21 a.m. 14/01/2011, you wrote

Harry and Glorie

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Jan 13, 2011, 7:10:55 PM1/13/11
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That's assuming that you have money after the bills and groceries to save.
*sighs*

At what little I could save out of our monthly budget, we would be looking
at Jaws 20, and Windows 12...

and that's when I finally save enough money to upgrade to Jaws 12 and
windows 7...

Something to think about, some of us hang on by the edges of our
fingernails, and the freeze on SSDI for 2 years hasn't helped... To add
insult to injury, our lease is up in August, and the rent hike will probably
be around 50 dollars... save what from where?

Allan Thompson

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Jan 13, 2011, 8:15:25 PM1/13/11
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Well, at least our poor, downtrodden congress can still give themselves pay
raises every time they meet. How nice during a time when everyone is broke
that they can find themselves the time and resources to give themselves pay
raises that could support a family of four ina nice middle class life. I am
still waiting for congress to award themselves Nobel Prizes.

al
"The truth will set you free"
Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.

Harry and Glorie

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Jan 13, 2011, 8:20:10 PM1/13/11
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Haven't you heard? The new group to get a 2 year pay freeze will be all
government employees... guess what congressmen and senators are?

Think that one will pass as easily as the one to freeze all SSDI pay? And,
of course, in 11 months, 17 days and a few hours, how much will SSDI raise
for cost of living? I'm willing to bet that it's less than 1% (For those of
us making less than 1,000 a month on SSDI, that means a raise of 10 bucks,
while Medicare part D will go up 50 dollars)

What really hurts is that while we haven't got a cost of living increase
last year or this year, they didn't bother to put a freeze on Medicare part
D, so we don't get any more money, but our coverage cost more, so we
actually get less... My net income is actually 30 dollars less than it was
two years ago, when I got a cost of living increase of a whopping 16 dollars
a month.

dark

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Jan 13, 2011, 9:37:55 PM1/13/11
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Well at least you don't have a house of Lords claiming that cleaning up
their homes and general staff services are parliamentary expenses and
charging them out of the public coffers, aside from the whacking great
sallaries they get of course.

Hay, maybe it's time for a new entombed job.

The politician!

The politician would have the ability to wear special armour type
parliamentary robes which give huge bonuses to defense, but lower
inteligence and creativity to zero. The politician would also have the
weapons skills party whip, and budget. Abilities. Teflon skin, perfected by
Bill Clintan, This allows anything aimed at a politician to simply slide off
and do no damage whatsoever. This can defend against any attack, but is
particularly effective against accusations of slease!

The mud sling. So used to bad mouthing other people, the politician has
agained the ability to hurl mud at their opponents thus making them appear
dirty and disgusting, and making themselves appear better. all targits hit
will be made automatically confused, berzerk, and lose several million
reputation points.

Transform gold: Politicians have the ability to gain gold from their enemies
by pretending that it is actually something else, so any item a politician
gets from their enemy automatically transforms into cash.

The filibuster: by aiming a long stream of pointless random words of utter
drivle at their opponent, the politician has the ability to make all enemy
attacks miss, cause confusion, and probably make their opponents look as if
they're agreeing with them anyway.

Grin of doom: patented by tony blaire the politician has the ability to
dazle opponents with a gigantic false grin. this will also cause confusion
and angrer!

Transform into sheep: having spent such a long time following others, the
politician has the ability to become an actual sheep. While a sheep the
politician will automatically mimic whatever the strongest person in the
combat is doing while bleeting furiously!

As gilbert said in the 1880s, "when in that house, Mp's devide, if they've a
brain and cerrabellum too, they've got to leave that brain outside, and vote
just as their leaders tellum too!"

beware the Grue!

Dark.


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shaun everiss

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Jan 13, 2011, 9:53:29 PM1/13/11
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well the way I started with stuff was by getting bits and bobs.
in 2007 I upgraded my laptop.
in 2008 the second computer.
I also upgraded my digital recorder.
in 2009, I got storage devices etc.
last year it was the main system upgrade and the router.
This year finally its turn of one of the screen readers and maybe a
new moniter.
I also got a phone in 2007.
Ofcause that means that a majority of the tech I have is out of date
by a bit but its better to tackle the small bits first.
With the event of my grandpa getting a good scanner and the fact
these are cheap now that will probably be the next thing should I need it.
When my next system dies, I will get another.
if xp still exists I will go with that but if not I will go for 7 or
whatever it is at the time.
Jaws is another huge thing.
If I get a job, I will need jaws because that is what you use.
Rather if I can sneak another upgrade since jaws is to much for any
user to actually self buy, well that will be it.
Then again I may not need it.
Once I learn dolphin script, the world as they say will be my oister.

Allan Thompson

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Jan 13, 2011, 10:38:10 PM1/13/11
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Are you serious? I didn't hear that they were considering a pay freeze on
anything related even remotely to them. If it is up for a vote, it will not
pass at all, although some will make a big stink about it at the time of
course, to make it look good.
That also means our military members won't get increases in pay either. They
usually get a hike for inflation each year as well. That is to say, if the
bill passes. It won't. But even if it did, they will find a way to exclude
themselves from it, some loophole they will put in it.

I know it. I got less this year then last.
In the end I can't complain. It is better then nothing I guess, but still,
equality would be nice, rather then the first ones to be shot when trouble
comes down the line.

Allan Thompson

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Jan 13, 2011, 10:44:47 PM1/13/11
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ROFL!! Fantastic! I wish I thought of it! lol.

I love the double talk. They can say a whole lot about everything but it is
really not about anything , and though everyone thinks they are on their
side, they are really supporting nothing.

Also, politicians need to have the "combine" ability. Whenever politicians
of the same party get together, they form a big bulbous mass of political
mash which then rolls over the competition using demagoggery, obfuscation of
truth, and pure diabolical lies. Then, when two groups of politicians form
into combined balls of mush, they cancel each other out and nothing
happens...for four years or longer, Lol.

Jason Symes

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Jan 14, 2011, 12:29:00 AM1/14/11
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Actually, the bill was only supposed to cut Congressional travel and office
budgets, saving some 35 mill this year and more next year. It was supposed
to be voted on last Friday, though I didn't hear whether it was or not, and
if not, then it should've been voted on this week but the House is closed
down while they review security after Arizona. If they didn't, I'd imagine
they'll vote on it early next week. The bill doesn't affect the military or
any other agency, just how much a Senator or Congressman can charge to the
taxpayer for paying office staff, travel expenses, that kind of thing.

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Jason Symes

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Jan 14, 2011, 12:30:21 AM1/14/11
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Sorry, forgot to change the subject line.

Jason Symes

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Jan 14, 2011, 12:32:58 AM1/14/11
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Oh, and Obama was planning a pay freeze for most executive branch employees,
but military wasn't affected. The military was actually supposed to get a
slightly higher than usual pay hike if memory serves me.

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Allan Thompson

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Jan 14, 2011, 1:21:10 AM1/14/11
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Thanks for the update.
It still doesn't affect their own ability to give themselves pay raises?
That is probably what they are going to do. Take all this stuff away from
the front but sneak it in the back, thru some means that won't be highly
public, hidden in some bill about chickens or tofu or something.

The arizona thing was a tragedy. Unfortunately, now every politician is
going to be hireing small personal armies to protect themselves and sneak
the cost onto the taxpayers bill as well. Meanwhile, the real problem
doesn't get handled concerning these whack jobs that go around shooting up
innocent people.

Anyway, thanks for explaining that. It should be interesting to see what
happens.

al
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Harry and Glorie

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Jan 14, 2011, 7:25:33 AM1/14/11
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The news announced it back in October or some ime near that. Obama actually
was the one putting it forward as it was one more half-assed attempt to
balance the budget. He couldn't keep cutting the legs out from under the
poorest segment of his voter base, and what's the only other segment that
the government can control? The US Government.!

My suspicion was that he thought he could get it pushed through before the
election (and thereby not effecting a sizable number of those
congressmen/senaors), or he was willing to exclude them from the pay freeze.
It would hit everyone else from the clerks in those honest and loyal's
pollitician's office through the military to the janitoral staff down at the
federal court houses. Anyone who got a government paycheck. I mean, how
cruel, to make millionaires in their own right spend their own money to live
on while serving our country by backstabbing and slinging mud at each other
before putting on a big smile and fighting to stay in washington.

Note that nothing has been said about cutting funding to other countries, or
pet projects of the various powers that be...

On the other hand, I think that as servers of their people, (You remember
all of that for the people, by the people stuff?) that our sacrid
congressmen and senators (Both state and federal) should not get paid at
all. They are suppose to be there serve, and there is nothing in the
constitution that says that they have to be paid. If you want to be there to
work, wonderful, but make the job something that only the truly devoted
would want... instead of the power hungry. Did you realize that nearly 9 out
of 10 of the congress and senate are attorneies, all with millions under
their beds and all not needing the paychecks they get? Go and serve your
country old man, then go home... no 40 years in office, no big perks, no
thousand dollar lunch meetings... Just you sitting in your chair and
actually thinking about what your people need/want; not what your party
demands.

As for the trumped up, and worst of them all, Ms. Pallen, I still find it
fastenating that she started out as a democrat, switched to republican to
run for VP, and is now a Tea Party because she knows she couldn't get the
Republican nomination and it would look really bad to try to go back to
democrat... she has no chance after the last 3 years of scandal and soccer
mom image going to pot (With the son, quite litterly)

Harry and Glorie

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Jan 14, 2011, 7:30:45 AM1/14/11
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That might be the current incarnation, but when it was originally reported,
the term "2 year pay fee for government employees" was the term used.


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Allan Thompson

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Jan 14, 2011, 5:04:58 PM1/14/11
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Government works great, until you let human beings run things, lol.
All of them are or have become corrupt so why focus on just Palin? I
wouldn't trust a single one of them with so much as a piece of blank paper.
They are cleverer then foxes in the chicken coop and twice as destructive.
They make their money on the power they have, not thru the paychecks they
collect alone. For instance, they will use eminent domain to steal peoples
land or business and get kickbacks and gifts for the companies that recieve
that property, sometimes to put up the same exact business! Alot of times
they pass along bills that will profit them by allowing land they buy
suddenly become acessible to a new highway and wickedness like that. They
hold congressional hearings, but none of them do anything against their own
because they all do it.
Perhaps we should have a computer run things, lol. I seem to recall
computers ran all sorts of civilizations on Star trek and they seemed to do
OK till Kirk came along and wiped his feet on the prime directive, grin.
Of course, with our luck, the world government controlling computer would
run on windows, LOL.

shaun everiss

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Jan 14, 2011, 5:37:06 PM1/14/11
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<grin>
well If the borg did not have one task at all times, to update itself
all the time maybe it would have been ok.
Maybe they run dos 0.2 and no one updated that.

Allan Thompson

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Jan 14, 2011, 6:25:05 PM1/14/11
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ROFL!!
I think you hit it on the head. The Borg are the way they are because they
are forced to use Microsoft operating systems, grin.
I can just imagine a bunch of "Vista" borg as compared to some XP borg, lol.

Actually, after reading up on the borg, I am wondering why everyone is so
dead set against being assimulated. I mean, who needs all this pesky free
will and individuality anyway?
Just look at what being a borg offers a person.
1. You become part of a family. Every single borg is your friend and
companion.
2. You get free room and board!
3. You have a job for as long as you live! No more writing out resumes,
filling out job applications, or describing your previous work history. I
mean, the list of personal references would be HUGE!
4. No more politics, social class concerns, party affiliations, no more
election ballots nor campaign promises. Everyone just agrees that the
collective gets what it should get to survive.
5. No more worries about dating, marriage and children troubles, no more
family infighting, no more holiday stress, no more birthday pressures, no
moretrying to remember important dates for anniverseries and the like. You
don't have to worry about relationships because you are in a relationship
with every single borg alive!
6. You don't have any financial matters. No banks, no debt, no credit cards
or stock markets. No tax brackets or inequality based on wealth or
influence.
7. No crime! why? No need for crime. You get everything you could ever want
as a borg. No junkies, hookers, alcoholics, psychopaths, liars or murderers.
You don't have to worry about your stuff getting stolen, cause you got no
stuff to steal...and your ok with that! No more peer pressure, no more
criminal organizations and no more lust, pride, pride and the like.
8. You got personal protection from the outside forces, things like built in
weapons, personal force fields, advanced technology at your fingertips and a
bazillion borg ready to kick butt and take names if you get zapped!
9. You get free full on head to foot health care for free! No more
deductibles and copayments. If you need repair, you got it. No messy bills,
no worries about how to pay for having your arm replaced with a plasma
driller. Heck, if your blind or handicapped, they take care of that right
away too! Just pop in a red light thingy and your good to go.

10. Finally...as a borg, you get to wear really cool things that are the
height of android and cyborg fashion! Not to mention that everyone loves the
borg. People just have to know what your designation is and what is your
borg cube number so they can meet you later for drinks...it is the ultimate
pickup line at all the bars..."You will be assimulated,resistance is
useless". I mean, who wouldn't fall for a line like that? lol

Ok, so maybe being a borg has some bad things attached to it. Everyone wants
to fight you, everyone thinks being assimulated is not a good idea, and you
do tend to have a shortened vocabulary making playing scrabble a bit
difficult.grin.

shaun everiss

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Jan 14, 2011, 7:02:12 PM1/14/11
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<grin>
true but then as I said I think the borg are using a beta os.
Ms is not that bad to be honest.
Seriously, if the borg used mac systems that would rock.
You would get a note about a new upgrade, and everyone would accept
it because macs just rock.
anyway with all the networks we use we are halfway there.
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