Kurdish democracy

[Warren D Smith]

The USA and Turkey have consistently stood against Kurdish democracy,
for example right now are against the very existence of the referendum
happening right now in Kurdistan and have at all times tried to
abolish all hope for Kurdish statehood, insetad insisting it be part
of the corrupt installed puppet government of Iraq.

This is rather odd considering that (1) the Kurdish region has been a
de facto democracy for a very long time, indeed longer than any other
in that part of the world, and (2) that
the USA and Turkey both have claimed to be pro-democracy.

This of course was a tell-all signal, to anybody who was paying
attention, that the claim of Bush to be promoting democracy in Iraq,
was a lie. That perception, which of course was obvious to all who
lived there, probably contributed to the rise of ISIS.

If so, the fake-democracy the USA created, came back to bite them, thus proving
they should have genuinely promoted democracy.
Will the Trump administration now, at long last, learn this lesson from history?

Well, no. As I said, they declared their opposition to the Kurdish
referendum even happening at all.

For the USA, it often has been the case that their short-term
perceptions of trying
to push around the rest of the world for their convenience, has Trumped any
desire to promote democracy. But time and time again, that foolish
maneuver has backfired for the USA. That is what happened in Vietnam,
where the USA for 20 years fought to install a corrupt puppet
government the Vietnamese did not want, while preventing a referendum
they'd agreed to.

That is what happened in Iraq.

And it is now happening in Saudi Arabia too, where Trump is continuing
to foster one of
the sickest kleptocratic regimes in the world...



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[William Waugh]

It is the moral duty of every American to oppose the interference of the US government in the political struggles of other regions.

On Monday, September 25, 2017 at 6:51:36 PM UTC-4, Warren D. Smith (CRV cofounder, http://RangeVoting.org) wrote https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/electionscience/YqvREWf98I8

[Warren D Smith]

Supposedly the result was 92% of the vote was pro-independence.

I am skeptical and suspect this referendum-vote may have been
exaggerated by fraud, because a pre-election poll was predicting a
much smaller margin.
One poll 25-27 August was 53-26 (rest "don't know").
So either the referendum was frauded, the poll was, or massive
lying to the pollsters.

Nevertheless, it seems clear the Kurds genuinely want an independent state.

[Warren D Smith]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/09/iraqi-kurds-overwhelmingly-split-baghdad-170927140559257.html

is a good news story explaining how Turkey and the main govt of Iraq
acted immediately to screw the Kurds, claiming they will starve them,
cut off their oil, and/or invade them.