How to choose the right EiffelStudio release?

[Максим Сычёв]

Hello.

how can I know which suitable release of EiffelStudio can be used in an operating system with the following requirements:

Linux red hat version 2.4.3

glibc version 2.3.6

gtk + version 1.2.10

Maksim

[Larry Rix]

As far as I can tell, you will be fine with the latest stable release, which is 20.05 as far as I know. It does not appear that the eiffel.org downloads have been updated from 19.05. Even that release will do nicely!

https://www.eiffel.org/downloads

[Larry Rix]

Apparently, 20.05 is still listed as a Beta Release and not as the last stable release. Based on this, choose 19.05 and give a hat-tip to 20.05.

Myself—I sometimes like to live on the bleeding edge, so I am using 20.05 and have not encountered anything but the "usual suspects".

The biggest issue for me (so far) has been long-winded use of EiffelStudio without shutting it down periodically and restarting (I run for days at a time with ES open on a single project). As a result of this very long stretch of use, I will sometimes get the docking mechanism in EiffelStudio totally hosed up and have to delete the supporting files from the APPDATA. I've actually considered writing a little Eiffel program that knows how to do this for me so I don't have to continually look back at notes on "how to recover from".

Please note that the problem I mentioned above has been around since before 19.05 and has continued to persist even into 20.05. It's not a critical error. It is merely a nuisance error that is easily recovered from once you know what to do.

[Максим Сычёв]

thanks for the detailed answer and recommendations.  but apparently I formulated the topic inaccurately.  I need to know which EiffelStudio release is suitable for an operating system with the following requirements: glibc version - 2.3.6.  gtk + version -1.10.  I have already studied the requirements on eiffel.org, but it does not indicate which release these requirements apply to.  What are the requirements for older EiffelStudio releases?  where can I find out?

Maksim

вс, 25 окт. 2020 г., 17:46 Larry Rix <lar...@moonshotsoftware.com>:

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[Chris Tillman]

According to Wikipedia GTK 1.1 is not a valid version. 1.0 and 1.2 are from 1998:

Release series	Initial release	Major enhancements					Latest minor version
GTK+ 1
1.0	1998-04-13[48]	First stable version					1.0.6
1.2	1999-02-25[49]

So I think you need to do a little more research on your requirements, or upgrade your system. Releases of EiffelStudio will not be supported past a few year's time. Even large software companies don't have the resources to support older than 10 years or so.

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[jjj]

Larry,

If you are talking about tool placement, toolbar setups, etc., what I do is get the tools like I want them then save the setting with "Tools Layout", "Save Layout As".  I save one for editor mode and one for debug mode.  When it gets messed up, just "Tools Layout", "Open Layout".

Is that what you were talking about?

jjj

[Ulrich Windl]

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> thanks for the detailed answer and recommendations. but apparently I
> formulated the topic inaccurately. I need to know which EiffelStudio
> release is suitable for an operating system with the following
> requirements: glibc version - 2.3.6. gtk + version -1.10. I have already
> studied the requirements on eiffel.org, but it does not indicate which
> release these requirements apply to. What are the requirements for older
> EiffelStudio releases? where can I find out?

Hi!

I wonder (not knowing the license details): As ES is open source, did anyone
ever try to compile it on is/her current platform? Is that allowed? Would it be
allowable to send some package (containing the sources with instructions to
build ES) to a public build service? I almost guess: No.

Regards,
Ulrich

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[Максим Сычёв]

Thanks for the detailed clarification.  I understood from your answers that the EiffelStudio operating system requirements specified on the eiffel.org website apply to all EiffelStudio releases.  Did I understand you correctly ?  As for the old operating system that I asked about, this is a service operating system, and I have to work with it as part of my job, while there is no way to change it to a newer one.  I just wanted to find out if some suitable EiffelStudio release can be used on it.  Turns out to be impossible.

Maksim

пн, 26 окт. 2020 г., 4:15 jjj <jjj...@uky.edu>:

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[Louis M]

There is instruction to build EiffelStudio here:
https://dev.eiffel.com/Compiling_EiffelStudio .

Good day,

Louis M

[Larry Rix]

Hey Jimmy!

Yeah—but what happens is that somewhere along the line, EiffeStudio munges the meta-data controlling the IDE layout and corrupts it to where the only way back is to delete the meta-data files in the %APP_DATA%. Otherwise, you can use it for days and weeks of running. It's that stable! But every now and again, it croaks. :-)