Conservatives in Canada have no honour, no decency, no vision
The Doctor
Ever since Joe Clark lost to Brian Mulroney in 1983,
the Conservative movement is nothing but a meaningless scandal-ridden
unethical movement in Canada. Conservatism in Canada
is nothing more than bastiaon retreatism in Canada and Elitism
that fears derailment.
The Conservatives in Canada are moving along the way
of the dinosaur.
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Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Never Satan President Republic!
If you cannot lead a family how can you pastor a church?
Roy
I agree.
=
Zapp Brannigan
> You heard it hear first.
>
> Ever since Joe Clark lost to Brian Mulroney in 1983,
> the Conservative movement is nothing but a meaningless scandal-ridden
> unethical movement in Canada. Conservatism in Canada
> is nothing more than bastiaon retreatism in Canada and Elitism
> that fears derailment.
>
> The Conservatives in Canada are moving along the way
> of the dinosaur.
>
I didn't hear that here first. I've thought it for years.
I was a Progressive Conservative, and not to defend Mulroney (or the Rt.
Honourable Kim Campbell), as times go, change is ushered in because the old
ways are blamed for the current situation.
In Ontario, Mike Harris was ushered in after the NDP's Bob Rae, but it was Rae
in fact who instituted many of the most hated notions that Harris inherited
and expaned on. Consider Rae's policy of downloading costs to the
munincipalities from the provincial level of government.
I was a Progressive Conservative originally because of Bill Davis.
The big change was when the Progressive Conservatives lost it big time in
1993, and were replaced by the late Alliance / Reform party.
Conservatism changed in Canada after that. And it's changed since. Look at
the Harper of 2006 versus the Harper of today! We have "the blue sweater
Steve", the one who has 2 kids and his wife takes in cats. And then we have
the vicious crap head who won't allow a memeber of his cabinet speak out
during a meeting without pre-qualification, let alone speak in public about
issues without consent by the PM. No more scrums. Nothing.
I don't like that kind of conservatism at all.
The Doctor
Roy <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On May 17, 3:14=A0pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
>> You heard it hear first.
>>
>> Ever since Joe Clark lost to Brian Mulroney in 1983,
>> the Conservative movement is nothing but a meaningless scandal-ridden
>> is nothing more than bastiaon retreatism in Canada and Elitism
>>
>> The Conservatives in Canada are moving along the way
>> of the dinosaur.
>> --
>> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
>> Never Satan President Republic!
>> If you cannot lead a family how can you pastor a church?
>
>I agree.
They have lost the agenda.
The Doctor
There sort of 'Conservatism' is not of the Canadian brand. It is a
brand that not of this nation.
Zapp Brannigan
> There sort of 'Conservatism' is not of the Canadian brand. It is a
> brand that not of this nation.
>
You are right. And the Republican version of Conservatism today in the USA
is not that of Barry Goldwater, Edmund Burke or William Buckley.
Who are their "intellectual heirs?"
Joe the Plumber, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity and Rush.
Hardly even a match. There is nothing wrong with being a conservative at
heart, but it's been corrupted in so many ways.
These days? They would accuse Robert Stanfield or Barry Goldwater of being
"socialists". I've read the real crazy asses go after President Eisenhower,
and call him one too! In essence, they've moved too far to the right.
I have great discussions about this stuff off line with friends who are still
with the Conservatives. A friend of mine is 28 and worked for John Tory, who
I admire. He's not a bad guy at all. But I sometimes need to remind him
that when I was 28, I was backing Mulroney over Turner. And I still don't
regret doing so.
But, I'm more of a Liberal now. I still don't vote for someone because of
their affiliation, I vote for the local. I do my research too.
John Fleming
desk in the scriptorium Roy <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $On May 17, 3:14�pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> $> You heard it hear first.
> $>
> $> Ever since Joe Clark lost to Brian Mulroney in 1983,
> $> the Conservative movement is nothing but a meaningless scandal-ridden
> $> unethical movement in Canada. �Conservatism in Canada
> $> is nothing more than bastiaon retreatism in Canada and Elitism
> $> that fears derailment. �
> $>
> $> The Conservatives in Canada are moving along the way
> $> of the dinosaur.
> $> --
> $> Member - Liberal International �This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
> $> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
> $> Never Satan President Republic!
> $> If you cannot lead a family how can you pastor a church?
> $
> $I agree.
Of course, the Conservatives didn't bring us Adscam,
Strippergate, and a few other scandals.
Fact is, no one party has a corner on the market for
scandals and corruption.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
And on that farm he had a genome E-I-E-I-O
With a SNP SNP here and a SNP SNP there,
Here a SNP, there a SNP, everywhere a SNP SNP
Old MacDonald had a farm E-I-E-I-O
Zapp Brannigan
> On Sun, 17 May 2009 14:48:31 -0700 (PDT), while chained to a
> desk in the scriptorium Roy <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > $On May 17, 3:14�pm, doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
> > $> You heard it hear first.
> > $>
> > $> Ever since Joe Clark lost to Brian Mulroney in 1983,
> > $> the Conservative movement is nothing but a meaningless scandal-ridden
> > $> unethical movement in Canada. �Conservatism in Canada
> > $> is nothing more than bastiaon retreatism in Canada and Elitism
> > $> that fears derailment. �
> > $>
> > $> The Conservatives in Canada are moving along the way
> > $> of the dinosaur.
> > $> --
> > $> Member - Liberal International �This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
> > $> Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
> > $> Never Satan President Republic!
> > $> If you cannot lead a family how can you pastor a church?
> > $
> > $I agree.
>
> Of course, the Conservatives didn't bring us Adscam,
> Strippergate, and a few other scandals.
>
> Fact is, no one party has a corner on the market for
> scandals and corruption.
>
Adscam was fairly meaningless and actually no Liberal politican was found
guilty of anything.
Then, just after, Harper became PM and gifted the USA $1 billion over the big
cattle problem.
No! $100,000,000 is massive! But 1,000,000,000?
A gratuity to Bush.
The Doctor
BC leads the way with Conservatives and other right wingers
running to the Liberals for relevance. Soon the rest of the
country will fall into line!
The Doctor
Just that the Conservatives nationwide are making an art of it.
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SHAME!!!
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Zapp Brannigan
> In article <MPG.247a614ee...@News.Individual.NET>,
> Zapp Brannigan <cen...@live.ca> wrote:
> >The Doctor wrote
> >> There sort of 'Conservatism' is not of the Canadian brand. It is a
> >> brand that not of this nation.
> >>
> >
> >You are right. And the Republican version of Conservatism today in the USA
> >is not that of Barry Goldwater, Edmund Burke or William Buckley.
> >
> >Who are their "intellectual heirs?"
> >
> >Joe the Plumber, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity and Rush.
> >
> >Hardly even a match. There is nothing wrong with being a conservative at
> >heart, but it's been corrupted in so many ways.
> >
> >These days? They would accuse Robert Stanfield or Barry Goldwater of being
> >"socialists". I've read the real crazy asses go after President Eisenhower,
> >and call him one too! In essence, they've moved too far to the right.
> >
> >
> >I have great discussions about this stuff off line with friends who are still
> >with the Conservatives. A friend of mine is 28 and worked for John Tory, who
> >I admire. He's not a bad guy at all. But I sometimes need to remind him
> >that when I was 28, I was backing Mulroney over Turner. And I still don't
> >regret doing so.
> >
> >But, I'm more of a Liberal now. I still don't vote for someone because of
> >their affiliation, I vote for the local. I do my research too.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> BC leads the way with Conservatives and other right wingers
> running to the Liberals for relevance. Soon the rest of the
> country will fall into line!
>
You really think so? Well! That's interesting.
Only because all I hear is how the Liberals of BC are right wing donuts, like
John Howard's "Liberals" were in Australia, before Rudd kicked their asses
out!
Howard didn't even get elected in his riding!
Shades of John Tory!
John Fleming
in the scriptorium Zapp Brannigan <cen...@live.ca> wrote:
> $Adscam was fairly meaningless and actually no Liberal politican was found
> $guilty of anything.
Immaterial.
Let's face it, the Liberals appointed the inquiry judge.
Zapp Brannigan
> On Sun, 17 May 2009 19:37:42 -0400, while chained to a desk
> in the scriptorium Zapp Brannigan <cen...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> > $Adscam was fairly meaningless and actually no Liberal politican was found
> > $guilty of anything.
>
> Immaterial.
>
> Let's face it, the Liberals appointed the inquiry judge.
>
>
Yeah, and when the Chalk River facility was shut down by the civil servant
whose job it was to keep it safe and respect the standards of safety, and she
was fired by Harper's crew? Even our strong and independant Auditor General
Sheila Fraser had worries about the confusing influence of the Harper
government on civil servants.
Forget about the money. That was stronger.
Zapp Brannigan
To continue, Sheila Fraser holds a similar job as a civil servant, so she was
concerned about the influence of what Harper's bunch did to that other woman.
After WW2, my dad was an engineer with the department of labour in Ontario,
and it was up to him to approve, or disapprove of things like buildings and
subways. He was not part of the government. Arms length. I can see why
Sheila Fraser was worried.
The Doctor
Stand up for Canada and Canadians and Harper tries to get the dirt on you
in the dirtiest of ways.
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Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Never Satan President Republic!
The Doctor
Zapp Brannigan
> In article <MPG.247a75c4a...@News.Individual.NET>,
> Zapp Brannigan <cen...@live.ca> wrote:
> >John Fleming wrote
> >> On Sun, 17 May 2009 19:37:42 -0400, while chained to a desk
> >> in the scriptorium Zapp Brannigan <cen...@live.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> > $Adscam was fairly meaningless and actually no Liberal politican was found
> >> > $guilty of anything.
> >>
> >> Immaterial.
> >>
> >> Let's face it, the Liberals appointed the inquiry judge.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yeah, and when the Chalk River facility was shut down by the civil servant
> >whose job it was to keep it safe and respect the standards of safety, and she
> >was fired by Harper's crew? Even our strong and independant Auditor General
> >Sheila Fraser had worries about the confusing influence of the Harper
> >government on civil servants.
> >
> >Forget about the money. That was stronger.
>
> Stand up for Canada and Canadians and Harper tries to get the dirt on you
> in the dirtiest of ways.
>
I don't think that history is going to look at PM Harper very well. Garth
Turner was on CBC radio today and he pointed out a number of disturbing
things, including how, according to Garth, who was a Cabinet Minister in the
Mulroney days, how Harper kicked him out. Saying "Garth, you are a
journalists, and there is no room for journalists in government, because all
you want to do is tell the truth".
He said that it was the "words that I will never forget".
And, I think Garth wasn't lying. I don't like how Harper conducts the
affairs of state. I have been upset about his banning of "the scrum" from day
one, and we all know that he does not allow his cabinet ministers to speak
aloud, unless pre-approved by him. Not even in council.
snowman
>
> Adscam was fairly meaningless
Wrong. The Auditor General came down hard on the Liberal Government of
the day for allowing this scandal to go unchecked.
and actually no Liberal politican was found
> guilty of anything.
Oh please. These people were in charge of our tax dollars and they
acted in a less than honorable manner. Millions of dollars are still
missing, and we have the Liberal Party of Canada to thank. Their inept
management has cost us all.
>
> Then, just after, Harper became PM and gifted the USA $1 billion over the big
> cattle problem.
He did not 'gift' them anything. If you have evidence to prove
otherwise, then by all means. Post a link.
>
> No! $100,000,000 is massive! But 1,000,000,000?
You mean like what went missing during the Liberal HRDC scandal? or the
2 billion that went missing to the gun registry boondoggle that the
Liberals saddled us with? How many university educations would that
have funded? How many hospital beds would still be open today? Give
the Lieberals credit, when they do a scandal, they do it big. And it
costs us all a lot.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------
"It's the customer's privilege to burst their own f*cking yolk."
-Gordon Ramsey
snowman
> You heard it hear first.
>
"America is your country as much as it is mine."
-Michael Ignatieff, Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
Canuck57
"snowman" <x@x.x> wrote in message
news:cq4Ql.62287$i24....@newsfe14.iad...
> The Doctor wrote:
>> You heard it hear first.
>
> "America is your country as much as it is mine."
>
> -Michael Ignatieff, Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
LOL. Iggy can give Obama the olde Harvard handshake and visit Wagoner and
Bush amonst others.
Canuck57
"The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:guq870$8td$1...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
And Chretien shot off his mouth selling out BC softwood....and took a decade
to fix.
Snowman said it right, no party has the corner on corruption. They all play
together. After all it was the inept Liberals who gave Mulroney $2.1M --
makes me wonder what Mulroney knew of the Liberals to get that kind of cash.
Sometimes they even work together on it.
And now that the story is out, makes one wonder how incompetant the Liberals
are at prosecuting corruption.
Canuck57
"Zapp Brannigan" <cen...@live.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.247a75c4a...@News.Individual.NET...
Worse yet, the Liberals kept a faulty tired reactor on line.
snowman
>
> And Chretien shot off his mouth selling out BC softwood....and took a decade
> to fix.
>
> Snowman said it right, no party has the corner on corruption. They all play
> together. After all it was the inept Liberals who gave Mulroney $2.1M --
> makes me wonder what Mulroney knew of the Liberals to get that kind of cash.
> Sometimes they even work together on it.
>
> And now that the story is out, makes one wonder how incompetant the Liberals
> are at prosecuting corruption.
>
>
These days, I tend to choose the lesser of the evils, although I'm not
happy with any of them. Principle and honor are qualities that seem to
get abandoned when one enters politics.
Canuck57
But no one wants to hear the truth. If you could give all the leaders a
truth pill for a week, Canadians would be shocked into reality.
Canuck57
But Alberta is Liberal free for over 80 years. And not in debt.
Coincidence that all other provinces have Liberals and liberal debt?
Liberal Turdeau still, even without inflation adjustments, holds the dubious
honour of racking up the most debt of any Canadian ever!!!
snowman
Lol, too true.
Canuck57
"snowman" <x@x.x> wrote in message
> Canuck57 wrote:
>
>>
>> And Chretien shot off his mouth selling out BC softwood....and took a
>> decade to fix.
>>
>> Snowman said it right, no party has the corner on corruption. They all
>> play together. After all it was the inept Liberals who gave Mulroney
>> $2.1M -- makes me wonder what Mulroney knew of the Liberals to get that
>> kind of cash. Sometimes they even work together on it.
>>
>> And now that the story is out, makes one wonder how incompetant the
>> Liberals are at prosecuting corruption.
>
> These days, I tend to choose the lesser of the evils, although I'm not
> happy with any of them. Principle and honor are qualities that seem to
> get abandoned when one enters politics.
Unfortunately true. I figure Harpo might have even been relatively honest,
but Ottawa seems to corrupt absolutely. Something went real wrong with
Harpo after Christmas, maybe someone hired a hooker and got pics. Sort of
like the security MP with the bimbo. Bet they play dirty.
And unfortuantely Harpo is perhaps a lesser evil. But I wish Harpo would
get off the bailout bandwagon.
I wrote Kevin O'Leary and asked him to run for PM. Figure he has the strong
type of personality it would take to clean up a wasteful hole like Ottawa.
Canuck57
"snowman" <x@x.x> wrote in message
> Canuck57 wrote:
>> "Zapp Brannigan" <cen...@live.ca> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.247a75c4a...@News.Individual.NET...
>>> John Fleming wrote
>>>> On Sun, 17 May 2009 19:37:42 -0400, while chained to a desk
>>>> in the scriptorium Zapp Brannigan <cen...@live.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> $Adscam was fairly meaningless and actually no Liberal politican was
>>>>> found
>>>>> $guilty of anything.
>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>
>>>> Let's face it, the Liberals appointed the inquiry judge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yeah, and when the Chalk River facility was shut down by the civil
>>> servant
>>> whose job it was to keep it safe and respect the standards of safety,
>>> and she
>>> was fired by Harper's crew? Even our strong and independant Auditor
>>> General
>>> Sheila Fraser had worries about the confusing influence of the Harper
>>> government on civil servants.
>>>
>>> Forget about the money. That was stronger.
>>
>> Worse yet, the Liberals kept a faulty tired reactor on line.
>
> Lol, too true.
One should make sure one's own house is clean before complaining about
others dirt.
Which is also why you can't get people convicted in Ottawa. Take those CCRA
dudes on theft, likely will get off as if they were smart they have the dope
on some Liberal, NDP and Conservatives.
snowman
> "snowman" <x@x.x> wrote in message
> news:p75Ql.40305$%_2.2...@newsfe04.iad...
>> Canuck57 wrote:
>>
>>> And Chretien shot off his mouth selling out BC softwood....and took a
>>> decade to fix.
>>>
>>> Snowman said it right, no party has the corner on corruption. They all
>>> play together. After all it was the inept Liberals who gave Mulroney
>>> $2.1M -- makes me wonder what Mulroney knew of the Liberals to get that
>>> kind of cash. Sometimes they even work together on it.
>>>
>>> And now that the story is out, makes one wonder how incompetant the
>>> Liberals are at prosecuting corruption.
>> These days, I tend to choose the lesser of the evils, although I'm not
>> happy with any of them. Principle and honor are qualities that seem to
>> get abandoned when one enters politics.
>
> Unfortunately true. I figure Harpo might have even been relatively honest,
> but Ottawa seems to corrupt absolutely. Something went real wrong with
> Harpo after Christmas, maybe someone hired a hooker and got pics. Sort of
> like the security MP with the bimbo. Bet they play dirty.
When he was first elected, I thought he was on the right track, he was
certainly a breath of fresh air from the corrupt Cretien and Martin
Liberals.
>
> And unfortuantely Harpo is perhaps a lesser evil. But I wish Harpo would
> get off the bailout bandwagon.
That's one thing that has really been bothering me. We are spending
billions to bail these companies out for bad business sense, not to
mention propping up a greedy union. I've never been very keen on the
Big 3, but I have to give Ford credit for bucking the trend and not
asking for a handout.
>
> I wrote Kevin O'Leary and asked him to run for PM. Figure he has the strong
> type of personality it would take to clean up a wasteful hole like Ottawa.
>
>
It would be good to have someone with a bit of business sense running
things instead of the usual political lemmings.
Canuck57
"snowman" <x@x.x> wrote in message news:9z5Ql.52747$uD3....@newsfe20.iad...
> Canuck57 wrote:
>> "snowman" <x@x.x> wrote in message
>> news:p75Ql.40305$%_2.2...@newsfe04.iad...
>>> Canuck57 wrote:
>>>
>>>> And Chretien shot off his mouth selling out BC softwood....and took a
>>>> decade to fix.
>>>>
>>>> Snowman said it right, no party has the corner on corruption. They all
>>>> play together. After all it was the inept Liberals who gave Mulroney
>>>> $2.1M -- makes me wonder what Mulroney knew of the Liberals to get
>>>> that kind of cash. Sometimes they even work together on it.
>>>>
>>>> And now that the story is out, makes one wonder how incompetant the
>>>> Liberals are at prosecuting corruption.
>>> These days, I tend to choose the lesser of the evils, although I'm not
>>> happy with any of them. Principle and honor are qualities that seem to
>>> get abandoned when one enters politics.
>>
>> Unfortunately true. I figure Harpo might have even been relatively
>> honest, but Ottawa seems to corrupt absolutely. Something went real
>> wrong with Harpo after Christmas, maybe someone hired a hooker and got
>> pics. Sort of like the security MP with the bimbo. Bet they play dirty.
>
> When he was first elected, I thought he was on the right track, he was
> certainly a breath of fresh air from the corrupt Cretien and Martin
> Liberals.
2006 I believe. Other than his Trust lie, nationhood for PQ, more money for
PQ and total inactivity of cleaning up Ottawa or activating the senate,
wasn't too bad. He even got away with the trust lie wipping out $30B from
investing Canadians investing in Canada.
Up to Christmas, he was paying rope a dope with Dion pretty good. But when
big Harvard run auto failed to get the NDP/CAW coup d'etat something
happened where Harpo started the bailout negotiations.
Harvard, Iggy (Canadian Liberal)
Harvard, Obama
Harvard, Wagoner (GM CEO)
Harvard. Nardelli (Chrysler CEO)
Harvard, Bush
Harvard, Gerstner (Carlyle Group CEO, re GM)
Former Secretary of Treasury w. Bush, Snow (Cerberus, re Chrysler)
President, Bush Sr, Cerberus
Don't think Mulroney doesn't know of Cerberus, LOL....
http://www.jordoncooper.com/2004/06/30/brian-mulroney-may-be-given-role-in-air-canada/
Go figure. Can prove a relationship exists, but if it smells bad it usually
is. Bird of a feather hang together.
You be the judge.
>> And unfortuantely Harpo is perhaps a lesser evil. But I wish Harpo would
>> get off the bailout bandwagon.
>
> That's one thing that has really been bothering me. We are spending
> billions to bail these companies out for bad business sense, not to
> mention propping up a greedy union. I've never been very keen on the Big
> 3, but I have to give Ford credit for bucking the trend and not asking for
> a handout.
See above. There is a science called non-causal relationships. Don't ask
me how I know, but it usually works.
>> I wrote Kevin O'Leary and asked him to run for PM. Figure he has the
>> strong type of personality it would take to clean up a wasteful hole like
>> Ottawa.
>
> It would be good to have someone with a bit of business sense running
> things instead of the usual political lemmings.
Yep, want money and debt problems fixed, hire a pro. Quit messing around
with Liberal debtors, especially the Harvard kind. At very minimum a pretty
poor record.
Isn't this more informative than CBC?
The Doctor
The Doctor
Let me see. Don Getty got Alberta in debt.
Now Stelmach is writing deficit budgets.
Care to retract?
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Canuck57
Nope. While we get a jack ass like farmer Stelmach once and awhile, we have
a reserve. Something a liberal knows nothing about. And bet Stelmach is a
liberal at heart but knew he didn't stand a tinkerbells chance as a Liberal.
See Tafts last defeat. Occupation, consultant as it sounds better than
unemployed in Alberta. LOL. I wouldn't doubt the spot is open, perhaps you
should go for it?
John Fleming
in the scriptorium snowman <x@x.x> wrote:
> $The Doctor wrote:
> $> You heard it hear first.
> $
> $"America is your country as much as it is mine."
> $
> $-Michael Ignatieff, Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada
The doctor seems to be doing his political bootlicking right
now. Think there might be an election in the wind?
John Fleming
in the scriptorium snowman <x@x.x> wrote:
> $Canuck57 wrote:
> $
> $> And Chretien shot off his mouth selling out BC softwood....and took a decade
> $> to fix.
> $>
> $> Snowman said it right, no party has the corner on corruption. They all play
> $> together. After all it was the inept Liberals who gave Mulroney $2.1M --
> $> makes me wonder what Mulroney knew of the Liberals to get that kind of cash.
> $> Sometimes they even work together on it.
> $>
> $> And now that the story is out, makes one wonder how incompetant the Liberals
> $> are at prosecuting corruption.
> $
> $These days, I tend to choose the lesser of the evils, although I'm not
> $happy with any of them. Principle and honor are qualities that seem to
> $get abandoned when one enters politics.
It seems the thing they do is what it takes to get
re-elected--and that is not necessarily what is right for
the country or its people.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "Canuck57" <da...@nospam.net> wrote:
> $"snowman" <x@x.x> wrote in message
> $news:p75Ql.40305$%_2.2...@newsfe04.iad...
> $> These days, I tend to choose the lesser of the evils, although I'm not
> $> happy with any of them. Principle and honor are qualities that seem to
> $> get abandoned when one enters politics.
> $
> $Unfortunately true. I figure Harpo might have even been relatively honest,
> $but Ottawa seems to corrupt absolutely. Something went real wrong with
> $Harpo after Christmas, maybe someone hired a hooker and got pics. Sort of
> $like the security MP with the bimbo. Bet they play dirty.
> $
> $And unfortuantely Harpo is perhaps a lesser evil. But I wish Harpo would
> $get off the bailout bandwagon.
In this case, I think he got manipulated into getting on it
in the first place. Something called the Liberal--NDP--BQ
Coalition threat.
> $I wrote Kevin O'Leary and asked him to run for PM. Figure he has the strong
> $type of personality it would take to clean up a wasteful hole like Ottawa.
And if he's sane, he probably wrote back to you and said,
"Are you nuts?"
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "Canuck57" <da...@nospam.net> wrote:
> $But no one wants to hear the truth. If you could give all the leaders a
> $truth pill for a week, Canadians would be shocked into reality.
You are probably right.
Politicians tend to say the things they think will get them
elected or re-elected.
John Fleming
in the scriptorium "Canuck57" <da...@nospam.net> wrote:
> $"snowman" <x@x.x> wrote in message
> $news:ke5Ql.40306$%_2.3...@newsfe04.iad...
> $> Canuck57 wrote:
> $>> "Zapp Brannigan" <cen...@live.ca> wrote in message
> $>> news:MPG.247a75c4a...@News.Individual.NET...
> $>>> John Fleming wrote
> $>>>> On Sun, 17 May 2009 19:37:42 -0400, while chained to a desk> $>>>>> $Adscam was fairly meaningless and actually no Liberal politican was
> $>>>>> found
> $>>>>> $guilty of anything.
> $>>>> Immaterial.
> $>>>>
> $>>>> Let's face it, the Liberals appointed the inquiry judge.
> $>>>>
> $>>>>
> $>>> Yeah, and when the Chalk River facility was shut down by the civil
> $>>> servant
> $>>> whose job it was to keep it safe and respect the standards of safety,
> $>>> and she
> $>>> was fired by Harper's crew? Even our strong and independant Auditor
> $>>> General
> $>>> Sheila Fraser had worries about the confusing influence of the Harper
> $>>> government on civil servants.
> $>>>
> $>>> Forget about the money. That was stronger.
> $>>
> $>> Worse yet, the Liberals kept a faulty tired reactor on line.
> $>
> $> Lol, too true.
> $
> $One should make sure one's own house is clean before complaining about
> $others dirt.
I have to agree 100%
> $Which is also why you can't get people convicted in Ottawa. Take those CCRA
> $dudes on theft, likely will get off as if they were smart they have the dope
> $on some Liberal, NDP and Conservatives.
snowman
And Ralph Klein eliminated the debt. He was a PC, wasn't he, Herr Doktor?
John Fleming
in the scriptorium snowman <x@x.x> wrote:
> $The Doctor wrote:
> $> Let me see. Don Getty got Alberta in debt.
> $>
> $> Now Stelmach is writing deficit budgets.
> $>
> $> Care to retract?
> $
> $And Ralph Klein eliminated the debt. He was a PC, wasn't he, Herr Doktor?
The doctor is up to his usual political grandstanding, and
methinks the best one can do is discount it as Liberal Party
psuedo campaigning.